Australian team 5 years from now

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What will it look like? I have a limited knowledge about Oz first class cricket and its domestic structure. But I know a little about the players who perform well for them domestically. The side may look something like this in 5 years:


P Hughes / L Pomersbach
P Jaques / S Marsh (If he performs well in FC consistently)
M Clarke *
D Hussey
B Haddin +
S Watson
C White (He has been a good batsman in FC games in his career. Might come good if given a second chance sometime in the future)
M Johnson
B Hilfenhaus
P Siddle
S Tait / A Noffke

Will this side be as powerful as the Australian side from 1990-2007?

They may well find some previously unknown young gun do well in FC and he maight get a shot at representing the Ozzies. Assuming they dont find someone, this might be the side. I might be completely wrong in my prediction. If I have missed out any young player who is a hot prospect to play for Australia, give a message stating the player's name.
 
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In 5 years time, David Hussey will be 36. So will Haddin.

We also don't know which talents are going to emerge over the next 5 years..
 
Pomersbach > White. White'll never be a permanent member of the Australian side, especially with immense talents like Pomersbach in FC cricket. Callum Ferguson's another option as well, especially with his great performances in his few ODi games. Brett Geeves is another option with the ball as well, with Steven Smith as a potential spinner. I imagine the side will be:

Hughes
Jaques
Clarke +
Pomersbach
Watson
Haddin +
Johnson
Siddle
Hilfenhaus
Smith/Hauritz
Tait

Not 100% sure/happy with it, but I imagine it won't be too far off this side.
 
Dont you think its about time Australia stopped searching for another Warne, Dan? I feel they are better off with 5 pace bowlers than 4 pace bowlers and one pathetic spinner who will hold the side back. McGain, Krezja, Hauritz and counting.
 
Im sorry but Tait in tests. He cant play 5 ODIs with off days in between each one let alone 5 straight days of tests.
 
I don't have any knowledge about aussie cricket whatsoever :D. Still, let me try-

ODI XI

1. Philip Hughes
2. David Warner (Why have you guys completely written him off? )/Shaun Marsh/Phil Jaques
3. Michael Clarke
4. David Hussey
5. Shane Watson
6. Brad Haddin
7. Cameron White
8. Mitchell Johnson
9. Nathan Bracken
10. Peter Siddle/Ben Hilfenhaus
11. Jason Krejza/Nathan Hauritz

I'll post my Test and T-20 XI soon, how was the try?;)
 
I don't have any knowledge about aussie cricket whatsoever :D. Still, let me try-

ODI XI

1. Philip Hughes
2. David Warner (Why have you guys completely written him off? )/Shaun Marsh/Phil Jaques
3. Michael Clarke
4. David Hussey
5. Shane Watson
6. Brad Haddin
7. Cameron White
8. Mitchell Johnson
9. Nathan Bracken
10. Peter Siddle/Ben Hilfenhaus
11. Jason Krejza/Nathan Hauritz

I'll post my Test and T-20 XI soon, how was the try?;)
Bracken is 32 already.
 
I don't have any knowledge about aussie cricket whatsoever :D. Still, let me try-

ODI XI

1. Philip Hughes
2. David Warner (Why have you guys completely written him off? )/Shaun Marsh/Phil Jaques
3. Michael Clarke
4. David Hussey
5. Shane Watson
6. Brad Haddin
7. Cameron White
8. Mitchell Johnson
9. Nathan Bracken
10. Peter Siddle/Ben Hilfenhaus
11. Jason Krejza/Nathan Hauritz

I'll post my Test and T-20 XI soon, how was the try?;)

Yeah I wouldn't be banking on anyone born in the 70s being available in 5 years time. That's Bracken, David Hussey, Brad Haddin and even Phil Jaques (given his dodgy back).

*So play both Siddle and Hilfy instead of Bracken
*Put in Callum Ferguson for David Hussey
*Hopefully Haddin is still around in 5 since Luke Ronchi has lost form, I'd guess Tim Paine would be pretty good by then. So Paine for Haddin.

Shaun Marsh deserves a spot ahead of whoever develops worst out of Hughes/Warner and Luke Pomersbach should be there ahead of Cameron White IMHO. If Watson is fit enough to act as a 5th bowler, White's bowling wouldn't really be needed and Pomersbach is a pretty powerful guy to come in at #6. And if Watson isn't fit to bowl play Moises Henriques instead at #7 and put Paine up the order. Marsh can also bat in the middle if needed. So that leaves me with:

1. Shaun Marsh
2. Phil Hughes/Dave Warner
3. Michael Clarke
4. Callum Ferguson
5. Shane Watson/Moises Henriques
6. Luke Pomersbach
7. Tim Paine
8. Mitch Johnson
9. Nathan Hauritz
10. Peter Siddle
11. Ben Hilfenhaus

For Test matches I wouldn't see a huge amount of changes actually. Fringe guys like Marsh, Pomersbach and Ferguson would probably have matured enough to be reliable in the long form of the game too. A specialist opener might be needed instead of Marsh, but Watson could probably open pretty well. Krejza/Steve Smith might beat out Hauritz for the spinner spot.

For T20s I'd try and find a spot for White probably.
 
For Test matches:

Phil Hughes
Phil Jaques
David Warner
Michael Clarke
Shane Watson
Callum Ferguson
Matthew Wade/Tim Paine
Mitchell Johnson
Brett Geeves
Peter Siddle
Ben Hilfenhaus

Obviously the big exclusion is Shaun Marsh who doesn't get a gig until he learns to average at least 45 at FC level for at least couple of seasons and get that List A strike rate up to 85.

Hopefully Jaques can still hang around for a bit, maybe take this current season off to do recovery and return in 2010, that way we can have straight swap for Katich.

Put Warner in the side hoping that by that time he'll have matured a bit more, increased his shot armoury. That way he may be able to play a Sehwag role in tests and ODIs.
 
ODI
David Warner
Tom Cooper
Michael Clarke
Callum Ferguson
Luke Pomersbach/Moises Henriques
Mitchell Johnson
Luke Ronchi
Aaron Heal
Peter Siddle
Ben Hilfenhaus
Shaun Tait

Don't know about the bowlers as our ODI bowling stocks are a bit iffy and same for keeper. Test side wise Steven Smith or Cullen Bailey as the spinner.
 
There was a speculation 3 months back that a young spinner is emerging as one of Australia's finest talents who was said to spin the ball more than shane warne at times as stated by his coach. The Article was posted/linked here but can't seem to find the thread atm, but i think there are lots of talents which would suitably replace the current squad for the future.
 
Wow - what is with some of these selections! Calls for David Warner are particularly stupid - especially in the test side!

Anyone who reckons Ronchi is even a decent option for any form needs to watch him play, he hits a 20 ball 50 or 50 ball hundreds once a season and everyone calls for him to be promoted to the prime minister. He isn't any good, heck, he has been dropped from the Western Australian team.

I think Shaun Marsh will be there in ODI's, and if Jaques doesn't make it back and Katich retires (no reason why he won't be playing in 5 years - Hayden retired at 38) he might get a gig in tests as well. If Hughes maintains playing consistently and irons out the creases in his technique (which he has 18 odd years to do!) he will be a mainstay at the top of our order.

I reckon Tom Cooper as mentioned by Aussie1st is a real bolter, if he continues good form, remains consistent and obviously improves himself (he is only 22 and averaged 59 in his 5 list a performances including 1 100 and 2 50s) he has a good chance to be there in the shorter form. Another I reckon is a pretty good chance is Jon Holland. He from reports will be a great spinner, and I have included him in my team purely on this.

I reckon Ferguson will be there, player of great potential and has already made his debut. He will probably be playing in both forms. At the moment he would probably be the best contender for number 3 in tests, or 4 with Clarke coming to 3.

I was going to have a rage at people selecting Henriques, but then I remembered, he is a good potential, and in 5 years could be very good. He isn't into my side just yet.

There will be a few who will still be playing from our current squad, the most likely to be Clarke (probably captaining) and Johnson. Johnson will probably be an allrounder, which I will talk about when I name the team.

There are so many young quicks who could make it. I could name at least 20. One or two of them might make it.

Another name to consider is Michael Klinger. With his change of states he averaged in the 90's during the 2008/09 season, in 5 years, if he has consistent success, he will only be 33, and definitely a good chance to represent Australia.

Also watch out for Paine as wicketkeeper if Haddin isn't in the team, Wade would also be solid pick if he keeps improving like he did throughout 2008/09.

So the side I would have in test, baring injury and providing they have good enough form is;

1. Hughes
2. Jaques
3. Ferguson
4. Clarke
5. Pomersbach
6. Haddin
7. Watson
8. Johnson
9. Siddle
10. Hilfenhaus
11. Holland

I reckon Johnson will end up at 7. I don't want him to, I want him to remain at 8 and concentrate on his bowling first and foremost, but I don't think that will happen. I included Watson because I don't think Henriques or Doropoulos will be ready - they are both very green, 21 and 23 respectively.
 
Why do you say the selection of Warner is stupid? Is it because you're seeing it in the light that in 5 years he will be exactly the same player he is now? Is it because you think that there's absolutely zero chance of him improving as a player?
 

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