Can of worms... Should Tendulkar use a lighter bat??

Should Tendulkar use a lighter bat?

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I would like to open the can of worms again regarding whether Tendulkar should use a lighter bat or not. Indian team physiotherapist John Gloster thinks he should use a lighter bat and is going to advice Tendulkar to do so.

Here is a article published in Rediff

India's cricket team physio John Gloster, who accompanied Sachin Tendulkar for the elbow surgery in London, says the batting maestro should use a lighter bat.

"The decision is up to Sachin. However, in an ideal world, a lighter bat would be preferable, but the decision on the bat weight is Sachin's, because after 16 years of cricket at this level I am not going to tell him what bat to use and what not to. I can only advice him and he can take that advice," Gloster told rediff.com on Thursday.

Tendulkar's left elbow was operated upon by Dr Andrew Wallace at The Hospital of St John & St Elizabeth in London, on Tuesday.

Professor Bruce Elliott, an authority on biomechanics at the University of Western Australia, had told rediff.com that Tendulkar's injury may have not healed completely because of the heavy bat he uses. Gloster agreed with Elliott's assumption, saying, "It is obviously related to the workload and to the weight of the bat."

"But it is up to Sachin; we can advice him on what weight of a bat to use. He actually did change the weight of his bat during the last series against Pakistan, so that can be a factor. But I also believe that once you got a chronic problem like tennis elbow, there is a fair chance it is going to persist for a long time," Gloster added.

Tennis elbow is a term used to describe pain and inflammation in the region of the elbow joint. The problem was first discovered in August last year, when Tendulkar was ruled out of the tri-series in Holland, and it has hampered him since.

"Once you have got a problem like tennis elbow, it is not uncommon for it to come and go. It is not uncommon for it to be there and then go away and then come back again," Gloster said.

He said the decision to undergo surgery was not a planned one but taken after a meeting with the Dr Wallace.

"We never went to London intending Sachin to have surgery. We went there just to make comparisons [of the scans]. The advice given by the surgeon [Dr Wallace] was that if he was to have the surgery, it would be in his best interest to prolonging his career.

"The decision on the surgery was made by the specialist in London. When Sachin went to London he had with him some scans that were taken in September last year and then we had some new scans taken in London and comparisons were made against both. The surgeon felt that there were some progressive degenerative changes around the tendon insertion on the side of the elbow.

"The surgeon felt that surgery was indicated to give Sachin the best possible chance of playing pain-free from this point on."

Gloster said the surgical procedure was very simple.

The doctor just did the debridement [surgical excision of dead, devitalized, or contaminated tissue] and the remodeling of the affected tendon on the lateral elbow.

So what will the recovery phase be? How long will it take?

"He will have a routine follow-up check in about a week, and possibly the stitches would be removed then. One would expect another follow-up in another four weeks' time, which is a fairly normal procedure.

"The initial phase is a resting phase to allow the tendon to heal. So he will be in a protective sling for a few days, and then, after 4 to 6 weeks, we will start gradually increasing the stretching," Gloster informed.

Gloster, who was the physio of the Bangladesh and Surrey teams, is hopeful of Tendulkar returning to cricket in four months.

"We would be fairly optimistic that by 16 weeks he would be returning to play. That's going on by the surgeon's advice and by what the surgeon has seen from the other sportspeople he has operated upon with the same procedure.

"I can only go by what the surgeon says. And he feels that by the end of 16 weeks Sachin will be relatively pain-free; that is what the aim of the surgery was. He is confident that those outcomes will be fulfilled," Gloster said.

Gloster agreed that he has an important role to perform during Tendulkar's four-month lay-off.

"My role, firstly, will be to take the advice from the surgeon and then act on his advice. So my main role will be the graduated return of function to that arm.

"What I mean by graduated is the progressive loading and ensuring that when you are re-loading the arm with strength exercises and stretching exercises, the muscle and the tendon tissue has time to adapt to those new loads.

"It's a strength and a progressive strength regime, which is very, very important, so that when he goes back to play the tensile strength in that tendon is as strong as it can be," he said.

He is also expressed confidence that Tendulkar's tennis elbow problem should be resolved forever.

"Generally, with this type of surgery, once the surgery has taken place we are confident that the problem should be resolved."

Gloster felt Tendulkar is around 10-12 weeks away from having a batting session in the nets.

"First of all, he will have to get clearance from the surgeon. I would expect that to be around the 10-12 week mark. But, again, that's up to the surgeon. Everybody is a little bit different, but I would hope that he would be able to bat in the nets around that time."

However, he warned that the batsman's return must be gradual and he must not rush things too soon.

"Whenever anybody returns to sport after any injury, not only this type of injury but any sort of injury, you have to allow the body to adapt to its new load.

"It's something like we did during the Pakistan series -- a very, very graded return to the net practice. That means starting off with hitting a tennis ball, then you go to a rubber ball, then you go to an old cricket ball. Then you go to hitting off 10 yards, 15 yards, 22 yards. Then you go with the net bowlers and then you take it from there.

"It is a very, very graded, gradual return because the new muscle and the new tendon tissue has to have time to adapt."

Asked whether Tendulkar played in discomfort during the Pakistan series, Gloster replied: "Sachin is a perfectionist and an elite athlete. And as you know, it doesn't take much to distract an elite athlete from his profession. He had periods of discomfort during the last series [against Pakistan], but I am not saying that it was distracting him excessively."


Courtesy of Rediff 2005
 
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Unless every member of this forum is an experienced sports medicine specialist, or Sachin Tendulkar himself, how can they possibly write or suggest something appropriate in this thread??? Is anyone here claiming that they can really offer real advice on how heavy a bat Tendulkar should use? To all the people who have voted so far in this thread... can you please write your reasons why you feel you are so qualified to make that decision for Tendulkar? Think a little before posting these threads please.
 
shahid6995 said:
Unless every member of this forum is an experienced sports medicine specialist, or Sachin Tendulkar himself, how can they possibly write or suggest something appropriate in this thread??? Is anyone here claiming that they can really offer real advice on how heavy a bat Tendulkar should use? To all the people who have voted so far in this thread... can you please write your reasons why you feel you are so qualified to make that decision for Tendulkar? Think a little before posting these threads please.

haha, I like this guy.

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shahid6995 said:
Unless every member of this forum is an experienced sports medicine specialist, or Sachin Tendulkar himself, how can they possibly write or suggest something appropriate in this thread??? Is anyone here claiming that they can really offer real advice on how heavy a bat Tendulkar should use? To all the people who have voted so far in this thread... can you please write your reasons why you feel you are so qualified to make that decision for Tendulkar? Think a little before posting these threads please.
Doesn't personal opinions matter??
We were talking about coaches for India... Do you think we have anybody here who had played international cricket (or domestic cricket even) to pass their judgement on who should be the coach of India??
I just posted an article that came out today and wanted everyone's opinion on it? Am I not entitled to do it?? Whats up with you Shahid??

BC Lara said:
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Good Luck!
 
rahulk666 said:
Doesn't personal opinions matter??
We were talking about coaches for India... Do you think we have anybody here who had played international cricket (or domestic cricket even) to pass their judgement on who should be the coach of India??
I just posted an article that came out today and wanted everyone's opinion on it? Am I not entitled to do it?? Whats up with you Shahid??
I dont feel personal opinion does matter in this regard. You could have asked "Do people here use heavy bats or lighter ones? How does using a different weight bat affect your game?" That would have been more appropriate for people to offer personal opinions on. This is a matter between Tendulkar, his physicians who are treating his tendonitis and his physio. Only they know what is better for him. They even say exactly that in the article "it is up to Tendulkar", you must have read that. It is a little different from talking about coaches.
 
shahid6995 said:
I dont feel personal opinion does matter in this regard. You could have asked "Do people here use heavy bats or lighter ones? How does using a different weight bat affect your game?" That would have been more appropriate for people to offer personal opinions on. This is a matter between Tendulkar, his physicians who are treating his tendonitis and his physio. Only they know what is better for him. They even say exactly that in the article "it is up to Tendulkar", you must have read that. It is a little different from talking about coaches.
Shahid, I just wanted to know whether people here want tendulkar to use a lighter bat or not? I know the matter is up to Tendulkar (and he alone will make the decision despite advices from top physios and his own coach and mentor) but I just wanted all the forum user's opinion... Can't I have that??

P.S. If the mods feel that this thread shouldn't be there... just remove it... and I apologize if you mods too feel the same like Shahid.
 
rahulk666 said:
P.S. If the mods feel that this thread shouldn't be there... just remove it... and I apologize if you mods too feel the same like Shahid.
Oh come on man, don't give up so easy lol! :D Its fun having a good argument...
By the way here's a suggestion for your next thread... Should Tendulkar divorce Anjali? People can offer their personal views on that too.
 
shahid6995 said:
Oh come on man, don't give up so easy lol! :D Its fun having a good argument...
By the way here's a suggestion for your next thread... Should Tendulkar divorce Anjali? People can offer their personal views on that too.

Buddy, you're getting there into personal affairs. And I know what you might say here now that "Tendulkar using a lighter bat is also his personal affair". But see, using a heavier bat or a lighter bat is related to performance and we the Indian fans here are concerned about Tendulkar's performance on the field. So we have every right to discuss among us on whether he should use a heavier bat or a lighter bat. Of course, we all know that Tendulkar is going to make his final personal decision but these things will be discussed by the Indian audience because we are the ones who are known to be passionate about our cricket!

As I said somewhere before, your messages are at times silly and at times, thoughtful!
 
shahid6995 said:
Oh come on man, don't give up so easy lol! :D Its fun having a good argument...
By the way here's a suggestion for your next thread... Should Tendulkar divorce Anjali? People can offer their personal views on that too.
Are you mentally retarded or sumthin? You were the one who suggested in another thread that quality of posts are going down and after saying that you write this crap... Its better I don't deal with you. Utterly disappointed with this post. I have been following up your posts and also repped you for your intuitive and informative posts but this is just pathetic!
 
saisrini80 said:
Buddy, you're getting there into personal affairs. And I know what you might say here now that "Tendulkar using a lighter bat is also his personal affair". But see, using a heavier bat or a lighter bat is related to performance and we the Indian fans here are concerned about Tendulkar's performance on the field. So we have every right to discuss among us on whether he should use a heavier bat or a lighter bat. Of course, we all know that Tendulkar is going to make his final personal decision but these things will be discussed by the Indian audience because we are the ones who are known to be passionate about our cricket!

As I said somewhere before, your messages are at times silly and at times, thoughtful!
1. You missed my point and the sarcasm completely.
2. A turbulent personal life (as in a divorce) will certainly affect Tendulkar's game too, and so by your example, the possibility of his marriage going bad should certainly be discussed by his "passionate" fans.
 
rahulk666 said:
Are you mentally retarded or sumthin?
I haven't gotten personal yet, and you have. If you cant hold your own in a proper argument then fine, just say it. But if you go down that other road then I can use some choice words too.
 
shahid6995 said:
I haven't gotten personal yet, and you have. If you cant hold your own in a proper argument then fine, just say it. But if you go down that other road then I can use some choice words too.
I apologize for that.. it was spur of moment thing... But I still stand firm about the rest of my post. Basically I regret repping you for your earlier posts.

shahid6995 said:
1. You missed my point and the sarcasm completely.
2. A turbulent personal life (as in a divorce) will certainly affect Tendulkar's game too, and so by your example, the possibility of his marriage going bad should certainly be discussed by his "passionate" fans.
If indeed Tendulkar gets divorced (god forbid not) and at the same time his performances go down (quite naturally) is it wrong for the fans to even discuss about his marraige. Remember that Sachin is a national figure. When you make yourself available on billboards and hoardings then you become a public figure. A public figure will have a private life but not as private as you and me.

Bill Clinton had an affair with his intern... It was his private business. But he was president of US ad hence it became a big public story. Imran Khan's alleged affair or sumthin with Sita White was discussed openly. Had he been playing cricket then, wouldn't Imran fans talked about it? Same with Ganguly-Nagma deal. Didn't people talk about it in this forum? When you are so huge, almost nothing is private anymore.

All the fashion and entertainment magazines have nothing but gossips, affairs and private stuff about artists, filmakers... and they are discussed openly in entertainment forums... Going by your logic (not to post anything with personal issues of people) these (entertainment) forums should not even exist! I suggest that instead of telling other people to think and post, you yourself think twice before you post anything.

P.S. I think we should drop this issue now and get back to the topic. If the mods want to delete the thread, they are most welcome to do so. I personally feel this is a valid thread.

P.P.S. Shahid, I apologize to you again for losing my cool in earlier post.
 
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rahulk666 said:
I apologize for that.. it was spur of moment thing... But I still stand firm about the rest of my post. Basically I regret repping you for your earlier posts.

If indeed Tendulkar gets divorced (god forbid not) and at the same time his performances go down (quite naturally) is it wrong for the fans to even discuss about his marraige. Remember that Sachin is a national figure. When you make yourself available on billboards and hoardings then you become a public figure. A public figure will have a private life but not as private as you and me.

Bill Clinton had an affair with his intern... It was his private business. But he was president of US ad hence it became a big public story. Imran Khan's alleged affair or sumthin with Sita White was discussed openly. Had he been playing cricket then, wouldn't Imran fans talked about it? Same with Ganguly-Nagma deal. Didn't people talk about it in this forum? When you are so huge, almost nothing is private anymore.

All the fashion and entertainment magazines have nothing but gossips, affairs and private stuff about artists, filmakers... and they are discussed openly in entertainment forums... Going by your logic (not to post anything with personal issues of people) these (entertainment) forums should not even exist! I suggest that instead of telling other people to think and post, you yourself think twice before you post anything.

P.S. I think we should drop this issue now and get back to the topic. If the mods want to delete the thread, they are most welcome to do so. I personally feel this is a valid thread.

P.P.S. Shahid, I apologize to you again for losing my cool in earlier post.

Ha Ha. That was a reply that I was waiting to post! Anyways, this topic is totally getting heated and out of the original topic that was started! Lets divert it back or close this thread!
 

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