Pakistan's tour of England - August/September - 3 Tests/3 T20Is

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I was really enjoying Naseem's spell of bowling. He is fiery pacer with some good skills. But I haven't seen much of sideways movement from him. The point was even mentioned by Michael Holding on air. The innings from Pope gives an impression of his talent. He is surely playing some innings here. Just needs to calm down a bit and not throw everything at the bowling.[DOUBLEPOST=1596736171][/DOUBLEPOST]I felt Yasir was bowling some very loose deliveries and was deservingly hammered unless Root once again threw it away. :facepalm

Don't need swing when you can bowl 90 mph off breaks to be fair.
 

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Don't need swing when you can bowl 90 mph off breaks to be fair.
I agree but when not much is happening and the length he was bowling he pretty can be taken on the attack. He just has to learn with experience and nothing else. For sure a very good future prospect he is and he would learn it as well. Probably there is another Steyn in the making. ;)
 

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Typical Pakistan, tbh. Neutralise the big guns, only for the unheralded players to run riot. Don’t be surprised if Dom Bess takes a 5-fer in the third innings, after Pope makes a hundred in this one.
Still can't forget Duanne Oliver in South Africa...[DOUBLEPOST=1596738413][/DOUBLEPOST]Btw, I didn't post a single comment here on PC in an attempt to avoid jinxing it
 

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Wouldn't call it running riot: England are a long way out and two wickets away from an utter mare
Let’s wait for tomorrow and see. Pessimism is the default setting for Pakistan fans, so expect a lot of comments like this from me till the end of the series :p
Still can't forget Duanne Oliver in South Africa...
I still have nightmares of Nathan Hauritz in Australia in 2009/10
 

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That was an excellent session of bowling from Pakistan, full credit to them.

I'd also say that this post is coming home to roost:
I'm so confused by this England selection.
  • "Stokesy has made number five his own, and is in career-best form. Let's move him from there."
  • "Rooty hates batting at three and does best at four. Let's move him to three."
  • "Jos has done shit-all and averages about 20 for the last year and a half. Let's promote him to six"
  • "We've just given Zak our backing and ended Denly's Test career to make room for him. Let's drop him after one bad Test."
  • "Mark Wood averages 18 with the ball since fixing his runup, let's leave him out."
They may still manage to win the Test because the West Indies' batting is a genuine problem and they've not made any changes to that department, but that doesn't make these decisions right.
Root looks bereft at three, which means Stokes keeps coming in at about 20 for 2. Against a newer ball, his "charge the seamers off their lengths" strategy is far higher risk. Buttler... is a thing.

The bowlers did well in the first innings and full credit to them, but this selection continues to be the wrong one.
 

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Archer said on TMS at the end of the day that he thought the match was pretty even. I don't know which match he was talking about.
 

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"charge the seamers off their lengths"
Just a question I had. What difference does it make when you charge down the pitch to a pacer and when you stand outside the crease? Because your final position would be same wouldn't it?

I have seen the legends and some great players like Sachin Tendulkar, AB de Villiers, Virat Kohli, Kane Williamson, Ricky Ponting, etc all these guys would be standing outside their crease to a pacer which infact made them comfortable to negative the swing. But yesterday when I saw Stokes he was actually in no position to play his shot. Now why does that happen ? This is the doubt that arises in my mind.
 

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Archer said on TMS at the end of the day that he thought the match was pretty even. I don't know which match he was talking about.
Probably, he was watching last summer's Ashes.
 

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Just a question I had. What difference does it make when you charge down the pitch to a pacer and when you stand outside the crease? Because your final position would be same wouldn't it?

I have seen the legends and some great players like Sachin Tendulkar, AB de Villiers, Virat Kohli, Kane Williamson, Ricky Ponting, etc all these guys would be standing outside their crease to a pacer which infact made them comfortable to negative the swing. But yesterday when I saw Stokes he was actually in no position to play his shot. Now why does that happen ? This is the doubt that arises in my mind.
The batsmen come down the track to eliminate/nullify/negate possible lbws. The height factor comes into play when you come out of your crease to play. Any good length bowl hitting your pads will go above the stumps (especially on bouncy wickets like Old Trafford).

Yesterday, Stokes was trying to eliminate the possible lbw which Abbas is extremely good at. Sibley's mode of dismissal was lbw as well so that was in Stokes's mind.

Less did he know, he would get bowled off an absolute jaffa instead of lbw.

Stokes was actually in an ok-ish position had the delivery not swung. He could have played a sublime straight drive but unfortunately for him, it swung away from him.

This what I think. You guys are more than welcome to differ
 
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The batsmen come down the track to eliminate/nullify/negate possible lbws. The height factor comes into play when you come out of your crease to play. Any good length bowl hitting your pads will go above the stumps (especially on bouncy wickets like Old Trafford).

Yesterday, Stokes was trying to eliminate the possible lbw which Abbas is extremely good at. Sibley's mode of dismissal was lbw as well so that was in Stokes's mind.

Less did he know, he would get bowled off an absolute jaffa instead of lbw.
I am not sure who called have played THAT ball to be honest
 

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I am not sure who called have played THAT ball to be honest
Shan Masood would have hit it for a 136 metre six down the ground :p
 

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