Vaughan faces tough call - Fletcher

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Vaughan faces tough call - Fletcher

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April 16, 2006

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Duncan Fletcher, the England coach, has said Michael Vaughan faces a tricky decision over whether to quit one-day internationals in order to extend his Test match career. Vaughan return from the tour of India to undergo knee surgery and is still recovering, with no return date yet pencilled in.

He has expressed doubts over whether his body can cope with the physical demands of playing both forms of the game at the highest level.

"He could come back and be fine," Fletcher told BBC Five Live's Sportsweek programme as England prepared to fly home from India. "I last spoke to him about a week ago and he seemed pretty upbeat at the time.

"But it seems like it is two steps forwards and then one step back from what I hear. It is a very difficult decision to make and only Michael can make that. That decision has to come from Michael and depends on the advice he gets from the medical people

"At the end of the day, he is playing cricket - is it [the knee problem] because he is running between the wickets too much? I do not know. If you run two runs tomorrow and you are going to damage your knee, then you pack up. If someone cannot really give you that answer, it is very difficult to make the decision."

England also have injury concerns over Steve Harmison, Ashley Giles and Simon Jones ahead of the first Test of the home season, against Sri Lanka at Lord's on May 11. Giles is facing further surgery on his knee while Harmison, like Vaughan, is extremely unlikely to make the start of the series. The news on Jones is more promising as he is set to play for Glamorgan in the early part of the summer.

However, one thing England's spate of injuries has done is to open the door to a crop of youngsters of who many, such as Alastair Cook and Monty Panesar, have not been out of their depth at Test level. Looking back of the tour of India, Fletcher believes that is major positive to emerge.

"It was a trip of two parts," he said, "In the Test matches we were short of a few players and it was an outstanding performance to draw 1-1 with India in a three-match series. The guys played some very good cricket.

However, he admits there is more work needed with the one-day team. "In the one-dayers, unfortunately we missed that experience tremendously with five players missing and that made it a very difficult tour.

"We are a little bit concerned that if those [injured and missing] players do not make it back into the England side, then we have to get young players into those slots and give them as much experience as possible.

"And there is not a long way to go to the World Cup [in the Caribbean in 2007]. There are some encouraging signs, but at the end of the day, we need experience when we go into a major competition."

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Vaughan might have to step aside in ODI's then, half good and half bad.
Good becuase Vaughan averages 28 is a poor ODI batsmen, and bad becuase England won't have his captancy skills that beat Australia last year.
 
RoboRocks said:
Vaughan might have to step aside in ODI's then, half good and half bad.
Good becuase Vaughan averages 28 is a poor ODI batsmen, and bad becuase England won't have his captancy skills that beat Australia last year.

Freddie seems like a good enough ODI captain. I totally agree that Vaughan should be dropped from the ODI side, he very rarely makes runs when it matters. His test form last year wasn't spectacular either, hopefully losing ODI's will make him an even better Test batsman.
 
Hes bearly making runs in the Test arena. Definitely should be dropped from the ODI side as hes never really fitted into that side. Sadly for Vaughan he is a test specialist.
 
I agree that we will be losing his captaincy skills. But he is on poor form and should lose his place in the team
 
This is awful for England. We need Vaughan's captaincy to suceed in One Day Internationals. It might be good news for Bell who wants to get in the team. My opinion is he will retire form One Day Internationals after the World Cup. Team after Vaughan goes is:

Trescothick
Strauss
Pietersen
Collingwood
Bell
Flintoff
G.Jones
Giles
Harmison
S.Jones
Anderson
 
gary0808 said:
This is awful for England. We need Vaughan's captaincy to suceed in One Day Internationals. It might be good news for Bell who wants to get in the team. My opinion is he will retire form One Day Internationals after the World Cup. Team after Vaughan goes is:

Trescothick
Strauss
Pietersen
Collingwood
Bell
Flintoff
G.Jones
Giles
Harmison
S.Jones
Anderson

I reckon Giles will retire from ODI's soon to concentrate on test cricket and recude the chances of a career-ending injury.
 
Giles' loss isn't too bad because we've got a promising Panesar and a batting Blackwell. I think Blacky should have a whole season with Somerset similar to what anderson had with Lancashire last year.
 
gary0808 said:
Giles' loss isn't too bad because we've got a promising Panesar and a batting Blackwell. I think Blacky should have a whole season with Somerset similar to what anderson had with Lancashire last year.

Err the major difference being that Blackwell has had a fair few whole seasons, whilst Anderson had only had a few starts due to more often than not being Englands drinks carrier.

Giles loss is bigger than people realise, Panesar needs another year or two learning his trade in County Cricket, afterall he only has 8 CC games to his name thus far.

To be honest I do not see what the problem is with Vaughan. He should take this as a perfect opportunity to retire from Odi cricket and remove what was essentially one of the weaker areas of the batting lineup.

He can focus on test cricket, and leave Odi cricket to the chaps who are quicker scorers, and better fielders.
 
I don't believe that Panesar should be in the one day team either but Blackwell is the best option ahead of Giles. I realise Giles would be a loss to the England team but Vaughan's would be so much bigger he is our best batsman and all he needs is a century to get his confidence up
 
In test cricket, yes Vaughan is technically our best batsman, although he has to start scoring some runs eventually for that statement to be backed up. He can not live off his tour of Australia forever.

However in Odi cricket Vaughan is more often than not a liability, he averages much the same as Solanki, and more often that not either gets bogged down and puts pressure on the rest of the batsman to up the tempo, or gets out cheaply putting pressure on the rest of the batsman. His Fielding is among the lower echelons of the England squad and as he can no longer bowl his useful off-spinners due to his knee problems in my opinion he does not have a role to play in the Odi team anymore, and should retire now to avoid any awkward situations regarding him being dropped for the Odis and remaining as test captain.

Although I do not think that would happen as I feel Fletcher shows a few of his players unending loyalty.
 
gary0808 said:
I don't believe that Panesar should be in the one day team either but Blackwell is the best option ahead of Giles.

Blackwell was given his chance in ODI's in Pakistan and took it. He's continued to bowl well and if he performs in the ODI series against Sri Lanka and Pakistan, he'll be one of the first names on the team sheet for the world cup. As long as he remains nowhere near the test team I have no issues with him playing ODI's. He does need to start making more runs though.
 
For me Blackwell should play in the world cup, he's been bowling really well lately.

Shame for Vaughnie, if he quits ODI cricket Flintoff is the man to replace him
 
I think Panasar should of played the ODI's, we have Plunkett and Kabir Ali for lower order batting, and IMO Panasar bowls good lines on middle and off stump.
 
I see a bit of talk about Panesar for Englands Odi squad, should he not play a few more games than 5 in his entire career before playing for England? He could do with a years worth of domestic cricket to ply his trade and work on things like flight, suffer from a game or being hit out the attack, and bowl on a few different surfaces.

He is very inexperienced at county level, let alone international level, and yes he impressed in India, but he hardly rolled them over. However with a bit of experience gained at domestic level, he could very well become a key player.
 

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