End Game White House Mafia - El Loco & The Deadman win

[Till Valhalla]

We've seen him backing you which is contrary to what he does in every other game and there definitely is some connection.

Spoiler: One last statement see at your own risk

Every game is different
Town look at what happened on Day 1

 

[El Loco]

Well, looks like the Mafia decided to go for their opposite number. That's one goon down from Mafia B then. They wouldn't give a toss as they want eliminate everybody anyway but not complaining nevertheless. One Mafia side can take care of themselves while we can lynch the other hopefully.
Bulletproof's done it's job, but also means they are one closer to a hit though, got to be grateful it was there in the first place I guess.

I find it weird that Villain is still questioning everyone's suspicions on him despite the fact that was personally inviting a lynch on himself. Sometimes you just have to put your hands up because the suspicions are justified and try to tackle them.
Asprin said that he had withheld reasons as to why Villain's claim was fake but has now seemingly retracted those, interesting.

 

[swacker]

I'm assuming from what I am seeing behind the kill of JR could probably be because he is a decent player, but he would also be the type of person that probably wouldn't be protected by anyone, so kind of a typical night one target. More or less lucky that that a mafia member getting killed.

You said it yourself. He was the first one to do so and hence had a higher risk of being caught red handed.

Also if you did find high risk of getting caught, why didn't you target him instead?

 

[swacker]

(Also if you did find) *Rudolph's claim* (high risk of getting caught, why didn't you target him instead?)

 

[RUDI]

Seeing as this is an open setup, can we please have the win conditions on the OP @Fake Passport / @CerealKiller ?

 

[swacker]

Bulletproof's done it's job, but also means they are one closer to a hit though, got to be grateful it was there in the first place I guess.

I do assume we have one more bulletproof armour before getting the heads off. But I am still not sure if it's just Town Watch who lost it or Townies.

Town has one remaining bulletproof moment.

 

[El Loco]

I do assume we have one more bulletproof armour before getting the heads off. But I am still not sure if it's just Town Watch who lost it or Townies.

Am aware that there is another. Didn't realise I gave the impression that I wasn't.

 

[asprin]

Asprin said that he had withheld reasons as to why Villain's claim was fake but has now seemingly retracted those, interesting.

I didn't. I did mention those just before the close of day. I'm on mobile now so it's difficult to navigate between pages to show it to you, but you can refer to it a page back.

(Also if you did find) *Rudolph's claim* (high risk of getting caught, why didn't you target him instead?)

The risk was from his point of view, not the other way around. And the risk came in the firm of counter claim.

 

[Villain]

Spoiler: One last statement see at your own risk

Every game is different
Town look at what happened on Day 1

Sounds a bit like again Jack is defending him, if he wasn't his mate he'd not have been bothered to say that as of course he'd want his other mafia mate to win.

 

[asprin]

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[Villain]

Well, looks like the Mafia decided to go for their opposite number. That's one goon down from Mafia B then. They wouldn't give a toss as they want eliminate everybody anyway but not complaining nevertheless. One Mafia side can take care of themselves while we can lynch the other hopefully.
Bulletproof's done it's job, but also means they are one closer to a hit though, got to be grateful it was there in the first place I guess.

I find it weird that Villain is still questioning everyone's suspicions on him despite the fact that was personally inviting a lynch on himself. Sometimes you just have to put your hands up because the suspicions are justified and try to tackle them.
Asprin said that he had withheld reasons as to why Villain's claim was fake but has now seemingly retracted those, interesting.

I only questioned Asprin's suspicion on me and never really invited people to lynch me except 'kill me' which basically was directed towards the mafias as I was an obvious target.

 

[asprin]

Sounds a bit like again Jack is defending him, if he wasn't his mate he'd not have been bothered to say that as of course he'd want his other mafia mate to win.

It doesn't occur to you that he is trying to do exactly that? i.e give an impression that he is supporting me so that I get lynched? Surely you don't think he would be that naive if he was indeed my team mate?

 

[Villain]

It doesn't occur to you that he is trying to do exactly that? i.e give an impression that he is supporting me so that I get lynched? Surely you don't think he would be that naive if he was indeed my team mate?

He definitely isn't that dumb to do that if he was your mafia mate but that he was still indirectly speaking in your favour. Not really sure who to believe maybe some can enlighten this.[DOUBLEPOST=1502801148][/DOUBLEPOST]*someone

 

[surendar]

@asprin - I looked at your posts, tell me one good reason why you are not a candidate of lynch?

1) Creating confusion is not a town thing - you did well with your fake claim theory on this open set up.
2) Even when people explained you back - you mentioned, not all the people have posted where only AliB was pending to post and you did not expect him to post but he did later. Another if condition in your defense adding further confusion. I can say at this point, it was very smart move theoretically with those if conditions.
3) You are just taking advantage of Villan's approach causing confusion. If he has not claimed at the least, then there would have been some case to debate against it, with none CCed him till now, all I can see is, you are taking good advantage of his approach.

I am not able to see any of your posts with clarity other than attempts to create confusion. I will wait for others to put their thoughts as well on this, but to me, I am very convinced that you wanted to do CC against one of the claims made on Day 1, but you were stuck in dual thoughts whether to go for it this early or leave it as is and hence all these confusion.

 

[asprin]

I looked at your posts, tell me one good reason why you are not a candidate of lynch?

How about I'm not mafia?

I don't regret what I did. I grilled Villain because it was my belief that he was faking it. I was hoping for a cc from someone but when no one came forward, I realized I may be wrong. I would do it with anyone who I am sus of.

You say only AliB was left to say something. And what did he reply with when he did? Was that post any useful? It was something along the lines of "I am here. Let's start". I'm surprised you found that to be of significance. I'm sure there was at least one more (I'm talking about people making a post after Villain's claim, not the start of the game)

If I knew any better, it seems that you want to take advantage of me vs Villain debate even after my stance on him after the start of Day 2.