End Game White House Mafia - El Loco & The Deadman win

[SiriusBlack]

Still don't really find your reasoning for targeting Surendar unless of course you had some knowledge from the night.

No. I think accusing someone of distracting play when in my opinion they didn't isn't a valid lynch reason. Don't necessarily need night knowledge to make.

I'm not entirely convinced in regards to Swacker but honestly he could easily ignored Asprin's post given how less time was left plus two of us Surendar and me had a lynch on Asp so nobody wouldn't have picked Swacker for it.

Why are you so hell bent on defending swacker? Are you Mueller and SSA2? Heck, you tried to take Mueller out of the game a while ago.. Are you even Bannon? I'm not so sure about you anymore, I feel like there is info being withheld.

@AliB please respond to my question. I can see you viewing this thread.

 

[RUDI]

@Fake Passport / @CerealKiller my apology for not posting too much. Kindly strikethrough the players that are out. Would it be possible to add the win conditions etc. in the OP. I'm sure that I'm not the only one that finds it difficult (especially while on mobile) to cross reference several sites in order to get an idea on what's going on.

 

[Villain]

No. I think accusing someone of distracting play when in my opinion they didn't isn't a valid lynch reason. Don't necessarily need night knowledge to make.



Why are you so hell bent on defending swacker? Are you Mueller and SSA2? Heck, you tried to take Mueller out of the game a while ago.. Are you even Bannon? I'm not so sure about you anymore, I feel like there is info being withheld.

@AliB please respond to my question. I can see you viewing this thread.

Given the fact you did not respond the most important question which was:

Asking people to claim the last spot which is Kelly, indirectly saying he's the President. Nobody is that dumb to do that.

And..

Now you're asking AliB if he's Kelly which makes you what? President?

There's no way you could be the President and lol bad last attempt to create confusion.
Lynch: Simon @Fake Passport @CerealKiller

 

[SiriusBlack]

How come you're still trying to lynch me without hearing out your buddy swacker? Or El Loco and AliB too? Doesn't seem like a very town move.

 

[Villain]

How come you're still trying to lynch me without hearing out your buddy swacker? Or El Loco and AliB too? Doesn't seem like a very town move.

Good luck with that, I don't get what are you trying to do here? @PresidentEvil claimed Kelly, no counterclaim from you. Now you're asking AliB if he's Kelly pretty much trying to get one of them out. And no President will make it this evident. Game over.[DOUBLEPOST=1502953589][/DOUBLEPOST]

• Chief of Staff John Kelly = PresidentEvil

• Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders = Rudolph

• Chief Strategist Steve Bannon = Villain

• Senior Adviser Jared Kushner = Surendar

• Secret Service Agent 1 = Asprin

 

[Villain]

Still not 100% sure about PE's claim

 

[SiriusBlack]

I'm just trying to get Ali to talk, that's all. He's been awfully quiet. Felt like a direct question would do the trick. Don't think PresidentEvil is being entirely truthful either, if I must.
Again, I'm not one to rush a lynch when they're likely to be locked in, being mylo. Would love to hear from @swacker and @El Loco

 

[swacker]

i will be back pretty soon. at uni[DOUBLEPOST=1502957100][/DOUBLEPOST]i will be back pretty soon. at uni

 

[AliB]

No. I think accusing someone of distracting play when in my opinion they didn't isn't a valid lynch reason. Don't necessarily need night knowledge to make.



Why are you so hell bent on defending swacker? Are you Mueller and SSA2? Heck, you tried to take Mueller out of the game a while ago.. Are you even Bannon? I'm not so sure about you anymore, I feel like there is info being withheld.

@AliB please respond to my question. I can see you viewing this thread.

Actually, I'm too busy atm, this thread is open on my PC and I went to the market.

 

[Targaryen]

Okay, I'm going to my house currently. Will have a read and post my thoughts in the next hour.

 

[El Loco]

We have lost two townies unfortunately. I have a clear idea on who are town and who are not. Now I'm leaving to my college and won't be back for next 4-5 hrs. So I'll cast my vote now and won't be able to post on my defense. We are 4 townies (including president) and we are still the majority. So think before lynching me.

El Lock surprisingly cleared most of us as town and though we all suspected asprin for his confusing game, he cleared him as town. Mind you, only mafia can clear the players town as they know their partners and clearing other players as town is the oldest tactic mafia team use for their safety.

Lynch El Loco

Don't think ever I've explicitly cleared someone as town. I normally correspond with somebody a bit personally before I'm certain of that in my mind but due the dynamic of game and also my fault partly too I haven't been able to do that. It's only people who haven't been counterclaimed that I'm alright with really and with good reason, obviously.

In terms of it being MyLo today, that would be under the assumption that the Mafias can win together. But there's always the possibility that they could target eachother, that would've been more likely if somebody hadn't come up with the bright idea to claim early, but no point in dwelling on that now. I mean, the first two guys who claimed already had their minds made that they were going to and didn't bother consulting beforehand, so there was nothing I could really do on that front, though I kind of tried to stop it, I remember Villain editing the roleclaim from his post I think when I discouraged further claiming, but then he added it back again.
Claiming with the bullet-proofs all gone isn't very clever either too, I might add, but I don't feel like I should be here to shepherd the game at every turn.[DOUBLEPOST=1502965714][/DOUBLEPOST]

Still not 100% sure about PE's claim

Wait, where did he claim? I missed it.

 

[Targaryen]

I've gone through all the posts and will be addressing each and every point that is to be cleared from my side.

Firstly, I will give the reason as to why I claimed as John Kelly (which ofcourse I'm). The day opened with two townies nightkilled/lynched/thrown out of White House. It was the time when I usually leave my house to University and won't be back for nearly 5-6 hrs. Before leaving, I found it beneficial to lynch a top suspect (El Loco) so that others don't wait for me to vote. Simon jumped in questioning my lynch and of course it was late for me to leave and the others would think that I might be ignoring Simon's question. So I found it appropriate to claim before leaving.

And to my surprise the game hasn't progressed much except Simon and Villain discussing and Simon asking AliB if he would counterclaim. I would say - lol. He made it look as if my claim is fake and Ali is JK. He has not claimed himself and asking if Ali would counter claim, what can I say for that? It is not difficult for mafia to discuss with his fellow and ask him to counter claim just to make it too close for townies to decide who they think is faking or speaking the truth.

 

[Targaryen]

The guys are trying too hard to hide and confuse the town. It is clear that three townies have claimed and one president (not claimed yet and shouldn't claim until it is right time to do so) to make it 4 in total. We don't know who the president is and it is the most tricky part for mafia.

Obviously, one among swacker, El Loco, Simon and AliB is President and remaining 3 are mafias. So we can lynch any of the player who is a confirmed mafia so that we can deal with only two mafias the next day. We can still win this if we get this one right.

 

[Villain]

Wait, where did he claim? I missed it.

Here;

I can't post more than this bc I'm in college. I'm John Kelly. And Simon and El Loco are team A mafia.

 

[El Loco]

Wait what! Stop right there. There's no way I'm allowing this after I've avidly discouraged it myself. I can 100% vouch against this you're trying to claim my role.
This is a rare opportunity for me as I've never had my role claimed before, but I'm pushing through with this as the town hardly ever gets the chance to bring the Mafia out in the open. Can't remember the last time I could actually say with conclusiveness that somebody is maligned.

Lynch: AliB

The dreaded next step is a little tricky and I know it's going to be frustrating but there's no way the town is passing this up.
As a far as convincing the town of my alignment goes just make the right decision guys, he is Mafia.
I don't understand the refusal here to acknowledge the fact that the lynch can be decided by the relative majority. Lynching somebody early on in case the town is going to be waiting on his lynch? You've seen the indecisiveness, that's total bs. One lynch is just as important as 5 together and to top it all off, I'm the one he wants to target.
Let's get this over with. The last role can be claimed tomorrow and everybody else can be weeded out.