Code of conduct needed for Franchise Owners in League Cricket?

[harishankar]

Apart from players, who always seem to be made convenient scapegoats for all problems, I think the franchise owners in leagues like IPL should be made answerable to the ICC or the BCCI with a code of conduct.

Team owners like Vijay Mallya has just shown how much a man like him can damage the reputation of cricket with his outbursts against his players. He is bringing not only his Bangalore team under stress, but also showing the dangers of having demanding private owners for teams.

Now I feel there should be a code of conduct for franchise owners to prevent them from being so heavy handed with players under their control. This especially when it comes to preserving the reputation of great cricketers like Rahul Dravid who face so much embarrassment from a boss like Mallya who knows nothing about the vagaries of the game.

Sure, Dravid is not a T20 player, sure he's not an inspirational leader, but for all that he's done for Indian cricket over the last decade or so, it's simply a shame that he has to answer to a guy like Mallya who respects nothing but the big bucks. The principle is the same. Cricketers cannot be put in such undignified situations like this - especially top class internationals.

I think a code of conduct should apply to franchise owners who should know that money cannot buy everything in life...

If franchise owners make damaging statements like this, they should be forced to give up their share in the team and some other owner should step forward to take control.

 

[SciD]

Not required. Its part of this franchise system. If someone is paying ridiculous amount of money he will not just sit and accept defeats.

 

[harishankar]

Not required. Its part of this franchise system. If someone is paying ridiculous amount of money he will not just sit and accept defeats.

Money isn't everything in life.

What about the dignity of the game and the cricketers involved?

Have a heart.

I feel very sorry for some of the players like the 5 Indian players in the Kolkata team who were asked to move out of the team's hotel rooms and who've done nothing wrong and who were selected by the franchise in the first place and now are being dumped unceremoniously.

 

[AbBh]

Money is everything for the people running the IPL. Mallya isn't behaving in the right way but I don't think anything can be done about it. The players must have known what is expected of them while signing million dollar contracts.

I think the Kolkata players were allowed to go as their services wont be needed by the team. They have club matches so they were freed so that they could participate in them. The players haven't been fired; they are still under contract with the franchise.

 

[shravi]

Team owners like Vijay Mallya has just shown how much a man like him can damage the reputation of cricket with his outbursts against his players. He is bringing not only his Bangalore team under stress, but also showing the dangers of having demanding private owners for teams.

Can you please give me a link to an article which says what Mallya did? I'm not being sarcastic here, I actually don't know.

 

[Jit]

Money isn't everything in life.

I feel very sorry for some of the players like the 5 Indian players in the Kolkata team who were asked to move out of the team's hotel rooms and who've done nothing wrong and who were selected by the franchise in the first place and now are being dumped unceremoniously.

well there is nothing wrong with that cuz they dont need them right now plus they get paid even if they are not bench or out of the team. kolkata decided to move them out because they have found the right combinition batting and bowling. they are not dumed

Money is everything for the people running the IPL. Mallya isn't behaving in the right way but I don't think anything can be done about it. The players must have known what is expected of them while signing million dollar contracts.

I think the Kolkata players were allowed to go as their services wont be needed by the team. They have club matches so they were freed so that they could participate in them. The players haven't been fired; they are still under contract with the franchise.

ya i totally agree with him and plus the 5players are not dumped so harishankar stop making this stuff up

 

[harishankar]

Can you please give me a link to an article which says what Mallya did? I'm not being sarcastic here, I actually don't know.

It's been big news of late. First Mallya "fired" his CEO Charu Sharma and just before the match against the Punjab side, he criticized Dravid publicly for his selection of the team.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/may/14/indianpremierleague.cricket

ya i totally agree with him and plus the 5players are not dumped so harishankar stop making this stuff up

Everybody knows that the players were "asked to leave" the team hotel. I don't know about you, but that sounds like they were "dumped".

None of these players would have asked the team management to be "dropped" voluntarily. They were picked for a team, it's not as though the Kolkata management didn't know the size of the team beforehand, so all this talk about not having enough facilities for the players is hogwash.

Looks like you have swallowed the PR crap of Shah Rukh and co wholesale without analyzing the situation using your own mind. If they can pay so much for the cheerleaders, they could definitely afford to keep the team together. That 5 players were asked to leave the team in the middle of a tournament is very undignified. It can definitely have a morale dampening effect on some of the other "fringe" players who might fear the axe next.

 

[WORLD CHAMPIONS]

Money isn't everything in life.

What about the dignity of the game and the cricketers involved?

Have a heart.

I feel very sorry for some of the players like the 5 Indian players in the Kolkata team who were asked to move out of the team's hotel rooms and who've done nothing wrong and who were selected by the franchise in the first place and now are being dumped unceremoniously.

First of all there is no heart and feelings in Corporate sector, KKR has not fired the 5 cricketers .They are just told they are are not anymore part of this season as they will not be used at this moment. The players are still under contracts. Its better to free them so that they can use thier skills in club matches which are going on. KKR has the best owner and best coach, they know whom hire and fire unless like freaky Mallya.

 

[harishankar]

First of all there is no heart and feelings in Corporate sector, KKR has not fired the 5 cricketers .They are just told they are are not anymore part of this season as they will not be used at this moment. The players are still under contracts. Its better to free them so that they can use thier skills in club matches which are going on. KKR has the best owner and best coach, they know whom hire and fire unless like freaky Mallya.

They might still be under contract but the KKR management didn't terminate the contract only because they know they'll probably have to pay a big compensation to these players for contract termination. So they took this way out to keep the players away while still keeping them technically contracted.

But I felt it was a move that wasn't warranted. After all, it wasn't as though the KKR team management didn't know about the size of their squad beforehand to now complain that they don't have the facilities for them.

If the KKR didn't want these players they needn't have called them up at all in the first place.

It seems that these moves are made just to "show the might" of the owners. Cricket has become a commodity and players have become disposable products.

A sad state of affairs.

 

[icyman]

I think the franchise owners in leagues like IPL should be made answerable to the ICC or the BCCI with a code of conduct.

Team owners like Vijay Mallya has just shown how much a man like him can damage the reputation of cricket with his outbursts against his players. He is bringing not only his Bangalore team under stress, but also showing the dangers of having demanding private owners for teams.

Now I feel there should be a code of conduct for franchise owners to prevent them from being so heavy handed with players under their control. This especially when it comes to preserving the reputation of great cricketers like Rahul Dravid who face so much embarrassment from a boss like Mallya who knows nothing about the vagaries of the game.

Cricketers cannot be put in such undignified situations like this - especially top class internationals.

I think a code of conduct should apply to franchise owners who should know that money cannot buy everything in life...

If franchise owners make damaging statements like this, they should be forced to give up their share in the team and some other owner should step forward to take control.

Not at all neccessary. If the team owner spends millions in buying the team and its players,it is but obvious that he would expect them to fight.
The way in which Team Bangalore has surrender to the majority of the teams in the IPL,well just shows that tehre was no fight at all.

As WC has mentioned here-this is the corporate sector.People want results or atleast an attempt at success. Bangalore team hasnt really shown any spunk and it is but obvious that the owner will get angry.
No need for the code.

And if we had a code,the IPL would never have gone ahead.People would have then started raising questions over Miss Zinta- Why was she hugging Sangakarra ?

A code will complicate matters here and no one would be happy.

None of these players would have asked the team management to be "dropped" voluntarily. They were picked for a team, it's not as though the Kolkata management didn't know the size of the team beforehand, so all this talk about not having enough facilities for the players is hogwash.

Looks like you have swallowed the PR crap of Shah Rukh and co wholesale without analyzing the situation using your own mind. If they can pay so much for the cheerleaders, they could definitely afford to keep the team together. That 5 players were asked to leave the team in the middle of a tournament is very undignified. It can definitely have a morale dampening effect on some of the other "fringe" players who might fear the axe next.

Do you know that almost all teams have around 25 players in their squad ?
Now, is it feasible for the owners to carry all 25 around when they wont get a game ? The answer is no !

For KKR,these players just did not fit into their scheme of things.With the arrival of Shoai,the matters became simpl for Khan and Co.
Once again,it is the corporate sector where only profits matter.

If players can be picked,they must also know that they can be dropped too ! As simple as that.

It seems that these moves are made just to "show the might" of the owners. Cricket has become a commodity and players have become disposable products.

A sad state of affairs.

Then one must blame the players too.Did they not know what they were entering into ?

 

[SciD]

Money isn't everything in life.

Yes it is. All talk about developing young talent is Bull****. Coporates dont do anything without looking for profits. Dont be surprised to see some owners selling off franchises in future.

 

[harishankar]

Yes it is. All talk about developing young talent is Bull****. Coporates dont do anything without looking for profits. Dont be surprised to see some owners selling off franchises in future.

You don't know much about the corporate world then. Don't get your viewpoint about life from the likes of Vijay Mallya and Shah Rukh Khan. They're not good role models although they're high profile guys. The real "corporates" are guys who do their work quietly, behind the scenes and can manage a multi-crore business without even their names appearing in newspapers.

If you ever go into business with only money and profit in mind and leave out the human factor, you'll end up with a rude shock. Most people who've made it big in life know the value of other people's contributions. Obviously there are a few exceptions.

People management is crucial for success in business and sport as well. These big IPL league owners are behaving like kids who's icecream got stolen from them when their team is not doing well and not like responsible leaders of business and industry.

Not at all neccessary. If the team owner spends millions in buying the team and its players,it is but obvious that he would expect them to fight.
The way in which Team Bangalore has surrender to the majority of the teams in the IPL,well just shows that tehre was no fight at all.

As WC has mentioned here-this is the corporate sector.People want results or atleast an attempt at success. Bangalore team hasnt really shown any spunk and it is but obvious that the owner will get angry.
No need for the code.

And if we had a code,the IPL would never have gone ahead.People would have then started raising questions over Miss Zinta- Why was she hugging Sangakarra ?

A code will complicate matters here and no one would be happy.



Do you know that almost all teams have around 25 players in their squad ?
Now, is it feasible for the owners to carry all 25 around when they wont get a game ? The answer is no !

For KKR,these players just did not fit into their scheme of things.With the arrival of Shoai,the matters became simpl for Khan and Co.
Once again,it is the corporate sector where only profits matter.

If players can be picked,they must also know that they can be dropped too ! As simple as that.



Then one must blame the players too.Did they not know what they were entering into ?

In the end, I blame the players too to a lesser extent, but they didn't determine how much they'll end up making. They were sold like cows on an auction and they didn't even have a say in which team they'll end up.

About picking and dropping fringe players, I think it was a cheap move, in bad taste.

I repeat again that every franchise owner knew the size of the team beforehand and didn't have to pick extra players in the beginning. So dumping 5 players in the middle of a tournament was uncalled for.

 

[SciD]

You don't know much about the corporate world then. Don't get your viewpoint about life from the likes of Vijay Mallya and Shah Rukh Khan. They're not good role models although they're high profile guys. The real "corporates" are guys who do their work quietly, behind the scenes and can manage a multi-crore business without even their names appearing in newspapers.

I have worked with India 2 biggest corporates. Thats two biggest which are in Top 3. And if you think they do charity you are wrong. All they talk is profitability.

 

[harishankar]

I have worked with India 2 biggest corporates. Thats two biggest which are in Top 3. And if you think they do charity you are wrong. All they talk is profitability.

Out of curiosity, can you let me know which ones?

And yes, they may "talk" profitability, but there are also reasons to value people ahead of money in business. Companies which treat people well retain great talent and ultimately end up being more efficient and profitable in the long run.

 

[SciD]

Out of curiosity, can you let me know which ones?

Tata
Reliance
ICICI Bank