Pakistan Super League - General Discussions

[Ahmad94]

dont agree with this one. with your very first point you talked about talented local players warming the bench and not given oppurtunities, do you think this will help them?

2 reasons for this:

1) A few years back, IPL was the premier league, followed by PSL with its unique quality of fast bowling and quality matches - that seems very far from the truth now.

This year, the domestic T20 league was so mediocre, and the quality was pathetic (I believe there were 16 teams). I want to bring a higher quality of cricket back, make it much more competitive, and bring top talent. I want our talent to be playing against the best and bring in better and tighter games.

(e.g. Umar Siddiq, Imran Butt were 2nd and 3rd higher run getter, and likewise Muhammad Ismail and Nisar Ahmed (who got 11 wicket at an econ of 5.6 across 7 games) haven't even played/been selected)

2) I feel like, from a bonanza perspective, it is needed. The ILT20 is currently touted as being one of the top leagues, We have the Saudis ready to create their own league - we need to innovate and make ours better (at least to get full houses at home). IPL measures each player's height to get accurate no-ball calls, it has better wide detection, and it has impact sub (not something I like) - but clearly it is working in making the IPL a better product. We need to make the PSL better aswell.

 

[Trex99]

2 reasons for this:

1) A few years back, IPL was the premier league, followed by PSL with its unique quality of fast bowling and quality matches - that seems very far from the truth now.

This year, the domestic T20 league was so mediocre, and the quality was pathetic (I believe there were 16 teams). I want to bring a higher quality of cricket back, make it much more competitive, and bring top talent. I want our talent to be playing against the best and bring in better and tighter games.

(e.g. Umar Siddiq, Imran Butt were 2nd and 3rd higher run getter, and likewise Muhammad Ismail and Nisar Ahmed (who got 11 wicket at an econ of 5.6 across 7 games) haven't even played/been selected)

2) I feel like, from a bonanza perspective, it is needed. The ILT20 is currently touted as being one of the top leagues, We have the Saudis ready to create their own league - we need to innovate and make ours better (at least to get full houses at home). IPL measures each player's height to get accurate no-ball calls, it has better wide detection, and it has impact sub (not something I like) - but clearly it is working in making the IPL a better product. We need to make the PSL better aswell.

I don't believe PSL was ever second to IPL, source? I feel BBL was second to IPL for a while, now maybe not so much anymore.

 

[pillowprocter]

Islamabad really said overconfidence killed them constantly making changes and trying things out instead of sticking with the formula that worked. We got away with that in the first few games but now it's game 9 and not many players are in settled roles, especially the emerging player(s)

 

[icyman]

PSL shifts to the UAE.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/psl-moved-to-uae-amid-india-pakistan-tensions-1485423

Does this move impact any team's fortune? Style of play in UAE is vastly different, sense spinners will come more into play here.

 

[pillowprocter]

PSL teams overseas players tracker:

Quetta Gladiators:
Staying: Finn Allen, Rilee Roussow
In: Dinesh Chandimal, Avishka Fernando, Gulbadin Naib
Out: Kusal Mendis, Mark Chapman, Sean Abbott, Kyle Jamieson, Akeal Hosein

Multan Sultans:
Staying: None
In: Dilshan Madushanka, Peter Hatzoglou
Out: Shai Hope, Michael Bracewell, Curtis Campher, David Willey, Ashton Turner, Chris Jordan, Josh Little

Karachi Kings:
Staying: David Warner, Tim Seifert, James Vince, Mohammad Nabi, Ben McDermott
In: George Munsey
Out: Kane Williamson

Islamabad United:
Staying: Ben Dwarshius, Rassie van der Dussen
In: Jimmy Neesham, Tymal Mills, Alex Hales
Out: Jason Holder, Colin Munro, Andries Gous, Kyle Mayers, Riley Meredith

Peshawar Zalmi:
Staying: Tom Kohler-Cadmore, Luke Wood, Max Bryant
In: Najibullah Zadran
Out: Nahid Rana, Alzarri Joseph

Lahore Qalandars:
Staying: Sikandar Raza (for one game)
In: Bhanuka Rajapaksa, Shakib al Hasan
Out: David Wiese, Sam Billings, Rishad Hossain (?), Tom Curran, Daryl Mitchell, Kusal Perera

 

[icyman]

Changes the team dynamics here- these last minute replacements. Good for cricket- gives an air of unpredictability.

 

[pillowprocter]

Rajapaksa losing the final for LQ, Faheem's overs were supposed to be the easy targets and he gave up 5 dots in a row to him

 

[Kamboh]

Rajapaksa losing the final for LQ, Faheem's overs were supposed to be the easy targets and he gave up 5 dots in a row to him

even Perera doing the same

edit: Perera is great

 

[Kamboh]

No words for Sikandar Raza — he flew in from England and led his team to the championship!

 

[CerealKiller]

Rajapaksa losing the final for LQ, Faheem's overs were supposed to be the easy targets and he gave up 5 dots in a row to him

He got out in time for LQ to win
Sikandar Raza is just insane

 

[Trex99]

He got out in time for LQ to win
Sikandar Raza is just insane

Or maybe it's just a sign of Pakistan cricket's current predicament that an outcast, forced to play for an associate is hailed as a hero.

 

[CerealKiller]

Or maybe it's just a sign of Pakistan cricket's current predicament that an outcast, forced to play for an associate is hailed as a hero.

He moved to Zimbabwe as a kid, so it’s not an Imran Tahir-like case where he left cause he wasn’t getting picked.
Plus they aren’t an associate

 

[Trex99]

He moved to Zimbabwe as a kid, so it’s not an Imran Tahir-like case where he left cause he wasn’t getting picked.
Plus they aren’t an associate

Sikander Raza is not some mercurial talent.

Yes, his decision to show up 10 mins before toss from England is commendable. But no, it doesn't make him an 'insane' player.

Especially after playing for a franchise who can only really put up a fight after recruiting foreign mercenaries.

 

[pillowprocter]

Or maybe it's just a sign of Pakistan cricket's current predicament that an outcast, forced to play for an associate is hailed as a hero.

Sikander Raza is not some mercurial talent.

Yes, his decision to show up 10 mins before toss from England is commendable. But no, it doesn't make him an 'insane' player.

Especially after playing for a franchise who can only really put up a fight after recruiting foreign mercenaries.

Sikandar Raza got off the plane with little warmup and had a good match, delivered in a pressure situation, and he's rightly being praised for it. What do you think it implies about Pakistan cricket?

 

[icyman]

I'd put it down to Raza's commitment to the game, nothing more than that. Individual players have the right to play the game the want. Commendable,no doubt -brings back memories of when Shane Watson played that blitzkrieg in one of the IPL finals with a bloody knee.