'I don't have a chance to play for India' - Bose

[manee]

Bengal seamer hits out against national selector
'I don't have a chance to play for India' - Bose
Cricinfo staff
December 14, 2007

Ranadeb Bose has lashed out against national selector Ranjib Biswal for suggesting he was not quick enough. Biswal, the East Zone selector in the five-member committee, said recently that it was tough to "fight" for Bose because the team management believes he "is almost as slow as Dada (Sourav Ganguly).

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This is sad that India have chosen to go with unproven domestic performers rather than someone who has done it year in, year out for the past half dozen years. India must look to reduce the void between domestic and international cricket so that you should merely judge season-long performances rather than having to hydge a player based on something like pace but this is not the case anywhere outside Australia.

I agree that there should be some sort of minimum pace, but of only around 120kph but Bose claims that he is bowling faster than that and if that is the case, the selectors have a lot to answer for. It is unacceptable that once someone has been dropped for lack of pace, he increases it and is still ignored. Based on the current injury crisis and Bose's last Ranji Trophy season in which he took 58 wickets at 15.22, he should have played a Test match by now or at very least been in the Australia squad.

 

[Adarsh]

I think India have had enough with medium pace trundlers. They're looking for some one different, who can provide something different. That's why guys like Ishant Sharma will always be looked favourably compared to Bose.

 

[SaiSrini]

I have never been a big fan of Bose. Not sure how credential his claims of consistently being in the 130-135 mark are, but we need faster bowlers now and more aggressive bowlers. We have enough of the line and length guys with Zaheer, Pathan, etc.

 

[Adarsh]

I think Zaheer is quite aggressive actually. Unfair to compare him to Pathan. Zaheer can crank it up at times.

 

[manee]

I think India have had enough with medium pace trundlers.

Who was the last 'medium pace trundler' with a proven domestic record to play for India in a Test match?

I think Zaheer is quite aggressive actually. Unfair to compare him to Pathan. Zaheer can crank it up at times.

Zaheer is very agressive, he merely does not have the biomechanics to clock high on the speed gun but his strength certainly gets the ball to zip through at a fair pace.

 

[RoboRocks]

Why does it have to matter if he bowls medium pace?
India have bowlers who can bowl at decent pace such as Munaf, Sreesanth, RP Singh and Sharma. It matters more on control and thats how they have success since their is no point in having a bowler who can bowl 90MPH and bowl too wide waiting to be hit.

 

[SciD]

If I was bowling at 130 ks with no batting skills and not done anything of note in matches that I have played with big guns why will I be selected ?

Does it answer Mr. Bose.

 

[Cricket_god]

Who was the last 'medium pace trundler' with a proven domestic record to play for India in a Test match?



Zaheer is very agressive, he merely does not have the biomechanics to clock high on the speed gun but his strength certainly gets the ball to zip through at a fair pace.

when zaheer had a higher jumnp he clocked 150 in the world cup

 

[SciD]

when zaheer had a higher jumnp he clocked 150 in the world cup

Those were fake guns.

Nehra bowled at 152 ks in World Cup 2003 and hes no way that quick.

 

[aditya123]

Those were fake guns.

Nehra bowled at 152 ks in World Cup 2003 and hes no way that quick.

If that was fake, then so should the fastest ball ever recorded of Shoaib (161kph) .

Who was the last 'medium pace trundler' with a proven domestic record to play for India in a Test match?

Zaheer is very agressive, he merely does not have the biomechanics to clock high on the speed gun but his strength certainly gets the ball to zip through at a fair pace.

Even in the spells during the ODIs in England and Pakistan he clocked 140-141 kph at times.
He is now a very clever bowler and operates between 130-141kph and has the guile to go with it.

 

[SciD]

If that was fake, then so should the fastest ball ever recorded of Shoaib (161kph) .

That was not in World Cup.




You dont need any gun to see that diffrence in speed of Shoiab and Nehra.

 

[angryangy]

Interesting.

Irfan Pathan would make it in because he's all-round valuable, a proven performer and is something of an incumbent. He's also more experienced than Bose who is five years his senior.

Ishant Sharma seems to be a bit of an exciting find and at his age and if he isn't fast enough well, just throw him in the gym and see if he can't add two yards of pace. definitely the sort of player you want to take on a tour sooner or later.

By Bose' own admission, Pankaj Singh is faster, but I don't think it was a particularly certain pick. I think the third spot could well have gone to Patel or Bose for the sake of picking an experienced player, but it seems the emphasis is on the youngest ones.

It's not a disappointing policy, because a young player training with the national team is going to take that training much further than a senior player. In India's case I think the difference between domestic and international is still quite large and the scope of Indian cricket even larger still, so I don't envy the selectors' jobs much.

 

[khan31]

That was not in World Cup.




You dont need any gun to see that diffrence in speed of Shoiab and Nehra.

Actually is was at the '03 World Cup. Akhtar bowled to Nick Knight, when Pakistan played England. If I can remember correctly it didn't seem to trouble Knight at all, considering it was the fastest ball ever recorded. As you say there is a huge difference between Nehra and Akhtar, but that doesn't mean Nehra can't clock 150+.

 

[SciD]

Actually is was at the '03 World Cup. Akhtar bowled to Nick Knight, when Pakistan played England. If I can remember correctly it didn't seem to trouble Knight at all, considering it was the fastest ball ever recorded. As you say there is a huge difference between Nehra and Akhtar, but that doesn't mean Nehra can't clock 150+.

Fastest bowl ever is

Akhtar bowling to McMillan (I think but it was surely a New Zealand Batsmen) in Pakistan. Its not been given due because the same happened in Pakistan. But that was clocked i think at around 163 mph.

In that series there were dead pitches that ODIs were played on and instead of using the pitch he used air to bowl quick and fiery yorkers and demolished New Zealand batting on completely flat tracks.

 

[SaiSrini]

Those were fake guns.

Nehra bowled at 152 ks in World Cup 2003 and hes no way that quick.

Who told you they were fake?? Give us proof before we believe it. May be they were really that fast at that time.