Boss's CoolGamePlayPatch Thread

[boss]

Reply: 09.02.2005 9.00 p.m. IST

I hope you will learn to spell my name soon

by prakash

sorry prakash!, that's my best friend's name too

boss this has to be the best AI patch i have played it has certainly changed my c2004 gaming with realistic score e.g Bangladesh scoring 264 against Pakistan. 1st 15 overs there run rate was 4.32 ! then in the 43-49 over they accelerated there runs which is the best bit! AND i have not had a single run out with ur patch! so boss thumps up to you mate!

by sohail

thank u very much sohail for u'r app as well as review i am expected..

Overall a brilliant patch.. tutsi and other AI makers shud take sum lessons from your book! .. (note they av good patches aswell).. i wonder wht the V2 patch holds for us

by E=MC

thank u brother for u'r heartful app. i also learn a lot from all patch makers. CGP V2 will give u totally new gaming exp. more updates on next week...

yo boss...from the reviews ur patch looks cool.

lets see if my next "FINAL" patch can give u a run for ur money.

it will be good competition

by tutsi

well!, no doubt in it tutsi!, only competetion can make this game a merry for us!(otherwise hardly nothing we can expect frm EA buffoons )

4 a great patch at last someone to give Tutsi a run
4 his money

by tommyhorn35

hi tommyhorn35, thanx 4 u'r app and rev abt my patch!, same ans to the above is applied here is well.

Tutsi please next time make the edges more higher because i dont get any edge at all and sorry for calling your patch the other day

by fardin

hi fardin, wrong thread i think!

Boss, IMO think players play the on-drive a little too frequently

by ZD

hi ZD, may be tweak it a bit in CGP v2!

Ye boss ur patch superb mate if sma releaseshis work soon there will be lot of interest again in the game friends

by The Champ

hi Champ!, thanx 4 u'r app and don't forget to put u'r review!!!

BOSS

 

[Trescothick]

The only thing I would say is that if you set a high total (ODI), the CPU is maybe a bit too aggressive. I mean attempting to hit too many risky 6's.

In my World Cup match against England (details here) I set them 266 to win. They started very quickly, 7 runs per over. It dropped to around 6 after the fielding restrictions were lifted, which is good. What you'd expect for chasing a good total.

But all the way through the innings they have played risky shots and lost wickets, and they haven't become any less aggressive as it became clear they were going to struggle to have enough wickets left to reach the total.

Do you know if there is any way to tweak their aggressiveness? Maybe reduce their willingness to take regular risks, and make them slow down and rebuild if they lose a few wickets?

This is only a tiny problem though. As you can see from the match report it's a really great match with a superbly realistic run rate throughout. That's definitely down to this patch, which is ace!!

 

[fardin]

Boss I was actually reffering to me I had a hedech at that they and all of a sudden i said tutsi rather boss.Please includ edges in your up coming patch.I dont get any edges at all.

 

[Pak_cricketer]

When I use the power-FF-Leg glance it goes behind the WK.

 

[SaiSrini]

Hi boss, I said before that I am yet to test bowling in a test match with ur patch. Well, I tested it in the Ind vs Pak store thread that I am doing now in this forum. Well, bowling has been good but the CPU takes a long long long long time to settle down and even after settling down, they do not play too many shots. I tried bowling half volleys to them but they just defend it or leave it and pad deliveries. I was getting frustrated and so, i set aggressive fields and then few of the batsmen got out but still whatever the field is, even the set batsmen slug it out too much. How can this be changed? Can u help me? Ideally, they should take time to settle down and once they settle down, they should score a bit faster (though not like in ODI's) and they should play according to the match situation. It was the second day of the test and India (me) set a first innings total of 628/4. Youhana scored 43 off 97 balls and Razzaq scored 11* off 68 balls or something. Thats too slow for a player like Razzaq. Hopefully, you correct these in ur next version!

This patch is the best one that I've played so far!

I tried increasing the CPU Reward Level in the "Test Hard" section of the patch and also, i tried reducing the "BatWindowIdealSize" since it was 5.0 but not much difference. So, I think ur tweaking is somewhere else. Also, I tried reducing the "CPU Difficulty" but still doesnt work.

 

[groobz]

Good patch,, the bowling thing can easily be fixed by making the cpu play less airreal shots. Batting is fun,, the ball has lots of different varieties depending on timing ect. The only thing is that you can't really get out. I mean the batwindow size and madadjust all those ratings are so high, it means you can't really be bowled or anything. The only way you'll get out is when you get bored and run yourself out, as you can see by saisrini's score chart.

So i'd recomend bringing a sense of randomness into the game. Make it so balls can beat the bat, so you can be bowled or caught lbw in front,, if u miss time a shot, make some of them go up into the air so you can get caught ect.

 

[groobz]

Another thing, is that the backfoot straight drives,, hit the stumps at the other end far too often.

 

[ZoraxDoom]

When I use the power-FF-Leg glance it goes behind the WK.

Your'e timing is off,for me it goes straight down Square Leg's throat

 

[SaiSrini]

Your'e timing is off,for me it goes straight down Square Leg's throat

Same thing here. With the original AI, I used to hit sixes & fours with the front foot power leg glance. But with most of the patches, this shot ends up in a catch often!

Good patch,, the bowling thing can easily be fixed by making the cpu play less airreal shots. Batting is fun,, the ball has lots of different varieties depending on timing ect. The only thing is that you can't really get out. I mean the batwindow size and madadjust all those ratings are so high, it means you can't really be bowled or anything. The only way you'll get out is when you get bored and run yourself out, as you can see by saisrini's score chart.

So i'd recomend bringing a sense of randomness into the game. Make it so balls can beat the bat, so you can be bowled or caught lbw in front,, if u miss time a shot, make some of them go up into the air so you can get caught ect.

some more randomness as u say it. i couldnt get the words for it, you said it! but i would not want the sweep shot to be tweaked with. In Tutsi's patch, sweep shot mostly was a fatal shot for me. It never had contact with the ball. And that proved costly against spinners as it was terribly tough to play them without the sweep shot working well. i think you can make it like the extremely slow balls can miss the sweep and the moderate balls can have contact with the shot and may be get a top edge and the best timing should usually fetch runs (if power is good, a boundary!)

 

[Trescothick]

Please includ edges in your up coming patch. I dont get any edges at all.

I've had a couple out from edges in every innings I've played with.... maybe your bowlers aren't very good? :P

Good patch,, the bowling thing can easily be fixed by making the cpu play less airreal shots.

Is that something I can tweak in the config editor? Or is it more complicated than that?

The only thing is that you can't really get out. I mean the batwindow size and madadjust all those ratings are so high, it means you can't really be bowled or anything. The only way you'll get out is when you get bored and run yourself out, as you can see by saisrini's score chart.So i'd recomend bringing a sense of randomness into the game. Make it so balls can beat the bat, so you can be bowled or caught lbw in front,, if u miss time a shot, make some of them go up into the air so you can get caught ect.

I've given most of my wickets away trying to be too aggressive and getting out LBW. But I agree that it would be better if sometimes a normal defensive shot got an edge and was caught behind.

Do I need to reduce the 'batsize' value in the editor for that?

Another thing, is that the backfoot straight drives,, hit the stumps at the other end far too often.

Yeah I've had that too. When I miss-time it I get runs, but every time it's well timed I hit the stumps.

 

[barmyarmy]

Although it you run when it hits the stumps you'll always get a single as the bowler will take an age and then throw it to the keeper!

 

[groobz]

Zorax I wasn't talking about the power shot, just the standard back foot drive,, timed well it crashed into the stumps,, as barmy said you can still get a single out of it, because the fielder will throw to the bowlers end, but gets a bit annoying, since it happens about 2-3 times per over sometimes. Trescothick sorry i'm not to crash hot on editing. But i'm pretty sure on this patch the bat window size and maxadjust ect are up too high,, which means it makes it almost impossible to be bowled or get lbws, unless you play a completely wrong stroke.

About the edges,, the first game i played was on a dusty pitch, where i didn't get a single edge at all.. my 2nd game is currently been played on a hard pitch,, gilly was caught behind first ball, and i've had one more edge that went too wide to be caught. So that?s definitely a good thing . Most people that have replied, or are using your patch (boss) are running through the cpu top order relatively easy,, so strengthening the top order could be a good idea.. But for real,, this is a great patch, i'm really enjoying it!

 

[boss]

Reply: 10.02.2005 9.25 p.m. IST

Do you know if there is any way to tweak their aggressiveness? Maybe reduce their willingness to take regular risks, and make them slow down and rebuild if they lose a few wickets?

by tres

hi tres, yes!,their aggrssiveness can be edited!, u may wait till CGP v2! or try out edit 1day50.cfg/1day20.cfg in config editor. all the details abt editing StrokePacing are already here in this forum.

Boss I was actually reffering to me I had a hedech at that they and all of a sudden i said tutsi rather boss.Please includ edges in your up coming patch.I dont get any edges at all.

by fardin

thats o.k. fardin!, btw are u talking abt ODI match?

When I use the power-FF-Leg glance it goes behind the WK.

by pak_cricketer

this is also the range of that shot in real time!, but that only occur if u time it too lately mate!!!

I tried increasing the CPU Reward Level in the "Test Hard" section of the patch and also, i tried reducing the "BatWindowIdealSize" since it was 5.0 but not much difference. So, I think ur tweaking is somewhere else. Also, I tried reducing the "CPU Difficulty" but still doesnt work.

by saisrini80

hi sai!, there are few params that affect the CPU batting style in tests!, as it was a test of params i yet to get the correct balance!, though i get it with autoplay still to get it with realtime play!, hope to get it correct in CGPv2!!!

So i'd recomend bringing a sense of randomness into the game. Make it so balls can beat the bat, so you can be bowled or caught lbw in front,, if u miss time a shot, make some of them go up into the air so you can get caught ect.

by groobz

thanx 4 u'r comm groobz.well!, if i've to decrease the amt of that params, i've to decrase the amt of spin/swing/seam of the pitch. anyhow i also like to get the correct bal in this dept is well mate!

Another thing, is that the backfoot straight drives,, hit the stumps at the other end far too often.

by groobz

that never happened when i bat groobz!!!

strengthening the top order could be a good idea

by groobz

"BatOrderLevel" will do the trick for this!, will be corrected in CGPv2

Is that something I can tweak in the config editor? Or is it more complicated than that?

abt to make CPU play less aerial shots by tres

same answer mate!!!(ref to first one!!!)

I've given most of my wickets away trying to be too aggressive and getting out LBW. But I agree that it would be better if sometimes a normal defensive shot got an edge and was caught behind.

Do I need to reduce the 'batsize' value in the editor for that?

by tres

'BatWindowIdealSize' is also one of the param used for shot edge selection. it dep on various params like EdgeStrokeDifficulty,EdgeAverage,etc in gamemode cfg and edgeModifier param in everyshot file!!!

 

[SaiSrini]

by tres
hi sai!, there are few params that affect the CPU batting style in tests!, as it was a test of params i yet to get the correct balance!, though i get it with autoplay still to get it with realtime play!, hope to get it correct in CGPv2!!!

Oh ok boss. Try to get it right in the next version. Since I am doing a story thread, I have to play it in realtime and not autoplay it!

 

[groobz]

Ok i just had a bowl,, and the first 3 overs there has only been 1 clean shot, all the rest of the deliveries have been edges,, most of them ending in boundries. So maybe turn that down a bit.