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LomWoss said:
I just get the feeling that they could have put so much more into this, but for some reason did not.

I think the reason was a desperate attempt to make sure it was out in time to cash in on the Summer of Cricket. The last thing they would have wanted would have been for the Ashes to get a lot of people interested and then they all go and buy EA Cricket because it's the only choice.

Just gave EA cricket 2005 a go, and without patches it really is dire. Considering they've had about 6 years to sort it out, I'm trying to remain optimistic that the next Brian Lara will expand on many of the good points in the current game... stats and AI would do it for me :)
 
LomWoss
I have to disagree with you... for me EA's effort is much better than Codemaster's. It's just not the stats, which are a major part of cricket, but overall gaming experience. Batting is just so easy in BLIC 2K5. You only have to defend a few deliveries that might hit the stumps and other than that you can thrash the bowling easily.

On the other hand, in cricket 2K5, batting is not as easy and you actually have to struggle to score runs. Also, shot selection is part of gameplay with shots off front foot, back foot or advance down the wicket shot. A bad shot or poor shot selection generally leads to a dismissal in Cricket 2K5.

As for bowling, taking wickets on BLIC is way too easy - I can get a top team like Aus out for 100 in tests but on Cricket 2K5 I have a tougher time doing so. As far as AI is concerned, BLIC is a joke with batsmen hardly competing in odis and not even taking easy singles. This game is good enough only for having a slog-fest with your mates and nothing else as of now.

In fact here's what I find wrong with BLIC 2K5 (check out the thread) and unless they rectify these problems, BLIC 2K5 will never be as good as EA's cricket games...

http://www.planetcricket.org/forums/showthread.php?t=17952

P.S. - By the way I still feel that the Brian Lara game that Codemasters released on Sega Mega drive in 90s is still the best cricket game ever.
 
alfa_beta

After having a look at your other thread, you make a lot of good points. Ones that make me rethink some of the approaches to the game as such. I have to admit that the scoring of runs in BLIC is a lot simpler than EA. However I still managed to score a lot of runs in EA even those on the wicket. For both games I seem to de very little blocking of balls. I guess its my agressive side coming out :)

The one thing that I really like about BLIC compared to EA is the cut shot, yes the animations on EA are better, but in BLIC you are better able to control the shot. I got a little unhappy in EA with always being caught on the cut shot, to balls that were short. Now haveing spent far too much time watching and playing cricket, a lot of those shots woudl end up along the ground not in a players hand. But then again I could just be nit picking.

As to the AI I think that both games lack a lot in that department. I think that both games could definitely use soem serious rewrites.

As too the shot selection, Codemasters I think did state that they were going to stay with the original BLIC type gameplay, and in some ways does make the game easier for new players to play. As for the hard core boys, yes it does limit some of the shots that you can play and what you can do. But even with that, what amazes me the most is that having played both I still have not seen any cathces in the covers or short mid wicket (really strange that).

I liked the fact that you could advance down the track to the spin bowlers, also using a spin bowler with a player advancing, not that the IA did that all that often, was nice as then you could really make use of the googly/flipper/doosra.

I think that the biggest problem is that both games have some good parts, and bad parts. Now if only we could get them together we would have a really great game.

I have probably gone off the reservation by now, so to put this back on track, I have to admit that a lot of what you say has a whole lot of merit.

Bottom line is make batting more realistic & challenging, add more shots and enhance AI (while taking singles and chasing in odis) and you will have one great game. Hope someone at codemasters does something about it.

I think that this quote of yours sums up most of it, but I would like to add the stats thing to it. I really like to see my stats.

P.S. - I never got to play BLIC on the sega Mega, the oonly version I had was the PC version and I think that it rocked, but back then I was young, and everything when you are young looks good ;)
 
alfa_beta said:
P.S. - By the way I still feel that the Brian Lara game that Codemasters released on Sega Mega drive in 90s is still the best cricket game ever.

Is Sega Mega Drive the same as Sega Genisis?

If no, then which is the latest?
 
LomWoss,
I do agree that both the games are not the ultimate cricket games but I just feel that EA is closer to mark than Codemasters. At least EA is moving towards genuine cricket while Codemasters are still stuck in the arcadey mode. Sooner or later, you have to decide which sets of fans do you want to target and I suspect that at least to me EA's decision to target hardcore cricket fans - the ones who understand and appreciate nuances of the game, will pay off in the longer run. Coz most of BLIC fans are the ones who got carried away with recent ashes series and won't be there when the next version is released but EA fans will still be around waiting for the ultimate game.

However as you said, Codemasters have got quite a few things spot on and would love it to see them build on it and give EA a real run for their money. But they will have to move away from their mentality of cricket being an arcadey game, which it is not. But it would be great if EA & Codemasters can get together and come up with a game that combines positives of both the games to give us cricket fans a game that we can treasure :upray

Viral,
I don't know much about Sega Genesis but Sega Megadrive is the 16 bit system which was there before PS and XBOX came into picture. You had to use a cartridge - similar to Attari & Samurai systems. That Brian Lara game was absolutely great, but maybe I find it so coz that was the first cricket game I played and that too for such a long time :)
 
alfa_beta said:
Viral,
I don't know much about Sega Genesis but Sega Megadrive is the 16 bit system which was there before PS and XBOX came into picture. You had to use a cartridge - similar to Attari & Samurai systems. That Brian Lara game was absolutely great, but maybe I find it so coz that was the first cricket game I played and that too for such a long time :)

Anyway, I feel both are the same, but I was not sure.
:cool:
 

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