Dravid...Ball Tamperer !!
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killa_stiky2002
Club Cricketer
But, deliberate or not, there's no NEED to CHEAT against ZIMBABWE. Now that's pathetic
Scatter
Club Cricketer
I think he has done more for using an object to have an effect on the ball. what is the difference really between a cough lolly and a small pebble for instance?
I would suggest if he was really trying to cheat he would have been scratching the ball with the lolly as opposed to shining it.
He was trying to be too clever rather than cheating, and ended up looking rather stupid for it in the end... he got fined, it should end there...
He cheated, its against the rules to rub anything else on the ball except for saliva or sweat. The replay clearly confirms that he's rubbing a orange lolley all over the ball. This is against the rules, he admited his mistake, and took the fine.
The thing i didn't like was the fact that he said it was accidental.. If the lolley did so happen to drop out of his mouth on to the ball, why did he continue rubbing it in? he should have immediatly took it off, and informed the umpires.
The thing i didn't like was the fact that he said it was accidental.. If the lolley did so happen to drop out of his mouth on to the ball, why did he continue rubbing it in? he should have immediatly took it off, and informed the umpires.
squiz
International Coach
Yeh i know, if a lolley fell on a cricket ball i was shining, i would feel that it was there, and straight away take it off, not continuously rubbing it in
killa_stiky2002
Club Cricketer
He was maybe "too concentrated on beat the third worse officially ranked ODI side"
Inside_Edge
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Clive Lloyd, the match referee for that particular game, had this to say about the event:
The footage shows that something has been applied to the ball and the rules state you are not allowed to do that. Once the charge is brought you have to show the evidence. Something was being applied to the ball quite obviously and he must have known it. It's quite conclusive on film. The rules are there - you can only apply saliva and sweat to the ball."
For those of you who don?t know the rules (and there seem to be a few because some seem to to be defending the action), here it is in its entirety :
Law 42
The match ball - changing its condition
(a) Any fielder may
(i) polish the ball provided that no artificial substance is used and that such polishing
wastes no time.
(ii) remove mud from the ball under the supervision of the umpire.
(iii) dry a wet ball on a towel.
(b) It is unfair for anyone to rub the ball on the ground for any reason, interfere with any of the seams or the surface of the ball, use any implement, or take any other action whatsoever which is likely to alter the condition of the ball, except as permitted in (a) above.
(c) The umpires shall make frequent and irregular inspections of the ball.
(d) In the event of any fielder changing the condition of the ball unfairly, as set out in (b) above, the umpires after consultation shall
(i) change the ball forthwith. It shall be for the umpires to decide on the replacement
ball, which shall, in their opinion, have had wear comparable with that which the
previous ball had received immediately prior to the contravention.
(ii) inform the batsmen that the ball has been changed.
(iii) award 5 penalty runs to the batting side. See 17 below.
(iv) inform the captain of the fielding side that the reason for the action was the unfair
interference with the ball.
(v) inform the captain of the batting side as soon as practicable of what has occurred.
(vi) report the occurrence as soon as possible to the Executive of the fielding side and any
Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered
appropriate against the captain and team concerned.
(e) If there is any further instance of unfairly changing the condition of the ball in that innings, the umpires after consultation shall
(i) repeat the procedure in (d)(i), (ii) and (iii) above.
(ii) inform the captain of the fielding side of the reason for the action taken and direct him
to take off forthwith the bowler who delivered the immediately preceding ball. The
bowler thus taken off shall not be allowed to bowl again in that innings.
(iii) inform the captain of the batting side as soon as practicable of what has occurred.
(iv) report this further occurrence as soon as possible to the Executive of the fielding side
and any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is
considered appropriate against the captain and team concerned.
The footage shows that something has been applied to the ball and the rules state you are not allowed to do that. Once the charge is brought you have to show the evidence. Something was being applied to the ball quite obviously and he must have known it. It's quite conclusive on film. The rules are there - you can only apply saliva and sweat to the ball."
For those of you who don?t know the rules (and there seem to be a few because some seem to to be defending the action), here it is in its entirety :
Law 42
The match ball - changing its condition
(a) Any fielder may
(i) polish the ball provided that no artificial substance is used and that such polishing
wastes no time.
(ii) remove mud from the ball under the supervision of the umpire.
(iii) dry a wet ball on a towel.
(b) It is unfair for anyone to rub the ball on the ground for any reason, interfere with any of the seams or the surface of the ball, use any implement, or take any other action whatsoever which is likely to alter the condition of the ball, except as permitted in (a) above.
(c) The umpires shall make frequent and irregular inspections of the ball.
(d) In the event of any fielder changing the condition of the ball unfairly, as set out in (b) above, the umpires after consultation shall
(i) change the ball forthwith. It shall be for the umpires to decide on the replacement
ball, which shall, in their opinion, have had wear comparable with that which the
previous ball had received immediately prior to the contravention.
(ii) inform the batsmen that the ball has been changed.
(iii) award 5 penalty runs to the batting side. See 17 below.
(iv) inform the captain of the fielding side that the reason for the action was the unfair
interference with the ball.
(v) inform the captain of the batting side as soon as practicable of what has occurred.
(vi) report the occurrence as soon as possible to the Executive of the fielding side and any
Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is considered
appropriate against the captain and team concerned.
(e) If there is any further instance of unfairly changing the condition of the ball in that innings, the umpires after consultation shall
(i) repeat the procedure in (d)(i), (ii) and (iii) above.
(ii) inform the captain of the fielding side of the reason for the action taken and direct him
to take off forthwith the bowler who delivered the immediately preceding ball. The
bowler thus taken off shall not be allowed to bowl again in that innings.
(iii) inform the captain of the batting side as soon as practicable of what has occurred.
(iv) report this further occurrence as soon as possible to the Executive of the fielding side
and any Governing Body responsible for the match, who shall take such action as is
considered appropriate against the captain and team concerned.
minkathebest
School Cricketer
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this is funny lol
Duane21
School Cricketer
I think that ganguly told dravid to do it.
