England Ashes tour party

[ferg512]

Also interesting England now have a Zimbabwean (Ballance) and a kiwi (Stokes) in the test squad, well on their way to having most nations represented

 

[Aalay]

Also interesting England now have a Zimbabwean (Ballance) and a kiwi (Stokes) in the test squad, well on their way to having most nations represented

KP, Matt Prior, Andrew Strauss, Jonathan Trott, Craig Kieswetter (South Africa)
Tim Ambrose and we might see Sam Robson soon (Australia)
Vikram Solanki (India)
Owais Shah (Pakistan)
Ben Stokes (New Zeland)
Gary Ballance (Zimbabwe)
Chris Jordan (West Indies)
Eoin Morgan, Boyd Rankin, Ed Joyce (Ireland)

So it's pretty much a world 11 when you add a Sri Lankan into this squad.

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It does not seem like ECB care too much about that though so good for them.

 

[IceAgeComing]

Remember that Bresnan will 100% be the third seamer if he's fit - I just can't see England not playing him after a relatively good home series...

 

[War]

KP, Matt Prior, Andrew Strauss, Jonathan Trott, Craig Kieswetter (South Africa)
Tim Ambrose and we might see Sam Robson soon (Australia)
Vikram Solanki (India)
Owais Shah (Pakistan)
Ben Stokes (New Zeland)
Gary Ballance (Zimbabwe)
Chris Jordan (West Indies)
Eoin Morgan, Boyd Rankin, Ed Joyce (Ireland)

So it's pretty much a world 11 when you add a Sri Lankan into this squad.

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It does not seem like ECB care too much about that though so good for them.

Replace Strauss with Lumb since there is nothing S African about Strauss - he was just born their by chance just like how Nasser Hussain was born in India, Colin Cowdrey in India, Ted Dexter in Italy and Geraint Jones in Papa New Guinea.

Same for Tim Ambrose and his AUS link.

Prior certainly has a big S African link, but he played for ENG at all ages groups. Didn't learn his trade in S Africa.

Jade Dernbach & Stuart Meaker would be fairer choices for the S Africa important category.

Shah & Solanki are your typical british asains too - hard to look at them as foreign talent imports like a KP, Morgan because they came to England young & learnt their cricket skills in the English system.

 

[Aalay]

Replace Strauss with Lumb since there is nothing S African about Strauss - he was just born their by chance just like how Nasser Hussain was born in India, Colin Cowdrey in India, Ted Dexter in Italy and Geraint Jones in Papa New Guinea.

Same for Tim Ambrose and his AUS link.

Prior certainly has a big S African link, but he played for ENG at all ages groups. Didn't learn his trade in S Africa.

Jade Dernbach & Stuart Meaker would be fairer choices for the S Africa important category.

Shah & Solanki are your typical british asains too - hard to look at them as foreign talent imports like a KP, Morgan because they came to England young & learnt their cricket skills in the English system.

It does not really matter if they moved to England when they were 3 or 4 but the point that I was trying to make is that they were not born in England.

 

[Lee1981]

Replace Strauss with Lumb since there is nothing S African about Strauss - he was just born their

Ha ha . One of the funniest things I've read in ages....

 

[Aravind.]

Ha ha . One of the funniest things I've read in ages....

Eoin Morgan and Boyd Rankin represented ireland for some time and then changed their colors .Kp made his first class debut in south africa .Gary Ballance represented Zimbabwe in the 2006 Under-19 World Cup .Trott played for South Africa at both under-15 and under-19 levels .

 

[War]

It does not really matter if they moved to England when they were 3 or 4 but the point that I was trying to make is that they were not born in England.

Ok well i thought you were regurgitating the age old argument that England were importing players from around world - when in truth that's not really the case given ENG like North American is a immigrant society.

 

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KP, Matt Prior, Andrew Strauss, Jonathan Trott, Craig Kieswetter (South Africa)
Tim Ambrose and we might see Sam Robson soon (Australia)
Vikram Solanki (India)
Owais Shah (Pakistan)
Ben Stokes (New Zeland)
Gary Ballance (Zimbabwe)
Chris Jordan (West Indies)
Eoin Morgan, Boyd Rankin, Ed Joyce (Ireland)

So it's pretty much a world 11 when you add a Sri Lankan into this squad.

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It does not seem like ECB care too much about that though so good for them.

You can't really group Strauss, Shah, Bopara, Monty and Prior in with KP, Kieswetter or Lumb etc cos the former group were eitehr born or raised in England, they are as English as everyone else.

The likes of KP and co came over to ply their trade over here as professional cricketers and later adopted nationalities.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong in that but there's a major distinction to be made.

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Eoin Morgan and Boyd Rankin represented ireland for some time and then changed their colors .Kp made his first class debut in south africa .Gary Ballance represented Zimbabwe in the 2006 Under-19 World Cup .Trott played for South Africa at both under-15 and under-19 levels .

Imported class hehe