ICC News: Restructuring the ICC, BCCI Influence & more

[Satan666]

well, it is a bit of a matter of you hating india because you've been trolling these forums for over a year. do I agree with you? no of course I don't, most of the posts you make are racist or stupid and only to annoy indian posters because you're in love with brian lara. none of your opinions are of any real interest to me, however I am glad you asked that question because it was nice to have the chance to explain why I sometimes seem to be supporting the BCCI in the face of their corruption.

Your personal vendatta against the 666 member is clouding your judgement of me. I think we both agree the BCCI is the major problem in world cricket.

As of present the Indian economy is weakning, this may bring down the BCCI on the other hand they have a new look ODI side, with many youngsters and I am of the belief that if this young team does well in the upcoming champions trophy we may see more ODIs in India and the world over, sometimes I think ODI is the best form of war against T20 cricket. As much as it pains me deep down i hope India do well in the champions trophy, maybe this will be the catalyst for releasing the stranglehold on world cricket the BCCI has.

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Afridi is his favourite batsman. That should tell you a lot

No. Afridi is not my favourite batsman, and Lara isnt even playing anymore.

Check my details my favourite cricketer is Sachin Tendulkar, obviously Sachin is my favourite batsman!!!!!!!

 

[vaibhavtewatia]

And now BCCI threatens to pull out of the Champions Trophy. It could't get worse. How are they supposed to take such decisions . Just because the others revolt about L. Sivaramakrishnan unfair selection , they are taking the whole team down. Sigh

BCCI is using its power beyond all limits now. I'd rather the ICC doesn't bow down, but the fact is, they will.

 

[Satan666]

Let them pull out, all would be happy!

 

[SaiSrini]

Let them pull out, all would be happy!

It has got to a point where the ICC has to act according to the whims of the BCCI. If you push the BCCI aside, you will risk a Kerry Packer type revolution with the BCCI creating its own ICC. With the money they have and with the kind of money India pours into international cricket, it can easily happen

 

[used2bcool]

Let them pull out, all would be happy!

Except anyone who has any kind of money invested in the Champions Trophy - that being the administrators and the broadcasters, i.e. the people who control cricket.

On a more serious note, where is this newsbite coming from? I see nothing on the cricinfo main page or the Champions Trophy page.

 

[vaibhavtewatia]

On a more serious note, where is this newsbite coming from? I see nothing on the cricinfo main page or the Champions Trophy page.

It had been all over the news channels websites(Indian).
Nothing to worry, a BCCI official confirmed that there is no point pulling back from the CT.

 

[used2bcool]

It is my experience that one should take news reported on the Indian news channels (especially India TV) with a gigantic grain of salt.

Off topic, but for your entertainment (provided you can read Hindi): stupidindiatv.blogspot.com/

 

[Satan666]

It has got to a point where the ICC has to act according to the whims of the BCCI. If you push the BCCI aside, you will risk a Kerry Packer type revolution with the BCCI creating its own ICC. With the money they have and with the kind of money India pours into international cricket, it can easily happen

There was cricket before India became a ''superpower'' and there will be cricket after their destruction. The BCCI is dependant on cricket to steal money.

 

[SaiSrini]

There was cricket before India became a ''superpower'' and there will be cricket after their destruction. The BCCI is dependant on cricket to steal money.

Well the thing is, if India starts off its own ICC council, we will see how the current ICC tries to keep its members within itself. Cricket will remain, but India will start a new different cricket. And you wouldn't want to give India that kind of a control where they start their own council and run affairs. How long will it take to create a new ICC and rally the current members to join the new ICC?

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

well, the CT story was kinda one of the examples I brouht up. it's pretty ridiculous, and didn't even seem to be suggesting they were trying to get anything, just throwing a strop for the sake of it. pretty much a nothing story with no real evidence that everyone was happy to believe.

however, best way to get more control for the ICC is to push forward the test championship. as it is tests are run as mini tournaments between boards, once the ICC is in the position were it will be indirectly responsible for test cricket under the umbrella of a single tournament it will wield significantly more power.

if they wanted to show real balls they could also re-classify ODIs as qualifying, though to do this they would either have to invite more associate nations to the world cup to have a buffer zone or prepare for the fact some bigger nations may not make it. it would create more financial insentive for associate teams but mean less money for the ICC and more risks and less cash to go round for the bigger boards (as you'd have to treat associates as financial equals in ODIs)

somehow don't see the second one happening as the BCCI is just the best at being greedy, not the only one that's greedy.

 

[cricket_icon]

Almost all the most relevant points with regards to the power of the BCCI and it's influence over the ICC have been made. The money India brings to the cricketing table is huge and with the success of the IPL it has become even bigger. The ICC is always afraid that India will pull out or pull another similarly crazy move, financially destabilising the ICC.

The whole DRS debacle is a prime example. Having said that, as the BCCIs financial fortunes have improved, it's test side has started to show signs of stagnation, being humiliated by Australia and England for a team once ranked number one is quite honestly pathetic. It'd ODI, though better than the test side is on and off, losing to Pakistan at home should have been a massive kick up the backside.

 

[sahilnatu]

Almost all the most relevant points with regards to the power of the BCCI and it's influence over the ICC have been made. The money India brings to the cricketing table is huge and with the success of the IPL it has become even bigger. The ICC is always afraid that India will pull out or pull another similarly crazy move, financially destabilising the ICC.

The whole DRS debacle is a prime example. Having said that, as the BCCIs financial fortunes have improved, it's test side has started to show signs of stagnation, being humiliated by Australia and England for a team once ranked number one is quite honestly pathetic. It'd ODI, though better than the test side is on and off, losing to Pakistan at home should have been a massive kick up the backside.

Not to forget that they white washed the Aussies at home just a couple of months back. Indeed Indian test side is in terrible form, isn't it?

 

[icyman]

Well the thing is, if India starts off its own ICC council, we will see how the current ICC tries to keep its members within itself. Cricket will remain, but India will start a new different cricket. And you wouldn't want to give India that kind of a control where they start their own council and run affairs. How long will it take to create a new ICC and rally the current members to join the new ICC?

You are simply looking at a smaller picture,my friend. The ICC is much more than just the Top 10 Test nations. ON current form, the BCCI can easily rally the support of Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and the WI. If you are talking of a breakaway league, they could manage with a few tournaments.

The ICC, as I look at it comprises of the Top 10 Nations, Affiliates and Associates as well. The BCCI would be stupid enough to break away from this set-up.

Its like the United Nations, where the USA controls the stakes, but they cannot afford to break away from the UN. Agreed they have the capability to set up a different league of nations, but they lack the ability to manage it. Ditto with the BCCI.

Threatening the ICC with an occasional pull-out will damage the financial flows, but even the BCCI is, to some extent dependant upon the ICC.

 

[cricket_icon]

Not to forget that they white washed the Aussies at home just a couple of months back. Indeed Indian test side is in terrible form, isn't it?

India's best form is at home, away they are terrible, that does not make for the number one side. South Africa are the best why? Because they beat teams away and at home.

I just hope Indians don't hold onto beating Australia 4-0 for another decade. There are some real problems in the team, no bowling depth, the new batsmen are good but need a lot of work and Dhonis captaincy, when the team is under the kosh, is far too defensive.

 

[icyman]

I just hope Indians don't hold onto beating Australia 4-0 for another decade. There are some real problems in the team, no bowling depth, the new batsmen are good but need a lot of work and Dhonis captaincy, when the team is under the kosh, is far too defensive.

I think you have perfectly summarized the Indian performance. Wish I could recommend your post more.