Murali v Warne

[RoboRocks]

My votes goes to Warne easily.
What I've noticed is Warne is brilliant when batsman attack him, he knows what must do in most situations.
The one thing with Muralitharan is that teams fancy if they can get at him they can put him off. Thats what the likes of Australia and India and even Kevin Pietersen in 2006 where Murali was all at sea at times.

Considering also Warne started out very raw when he first came into test cricket and developed both his action and variations and then 2 years later he batsmen walking bemused.
Warne also knows when to use his variations and sets batsmen up, and even now when he cannot bowl balls like the googly and the flipper due to operations he still uses the leg break and the slider to excellent effect. At times Murali over bowls the doosra and it gets a bit predictable.

The question I think we still loom about Muralitharan whether or not he does chuck because although he has been cleared quite a few times, I doubt that will ever go away and thats someything Warne is never going to have on him.

 

[Ollie_H]

They are both amazing Spin Bowlers, Warne could easily have had the chance to go to places Zimb, and Other Sub Continet areas and chose not to. Warne will also never be able to prove himself against the best Cricketing Nation of his era. (Australia) im not australian but they are truly Dominant. Lets what happens now. Where as murali albeit his deformity is still ana amzing bowler and has played against Aussies. So i think they should just be known as great Bowlers, also either both have gone through a stage of Controversy.

 

[Leicester Fox]

I'll go with Warne unless Murali gets to 1000 and then he will be so far ahead I don't think there's a real case for Warne being better. I always change my opinion on this thouh, tomorrow it'll probably be Murali

 

[Hooper]

Muralitharan is the better bowler, he takes more wickets, goes for less runs, builds more pressure - he gets my vote.

However, whereas Muralitharan has an entire arm deformed to the art of spin bowling, Warne has developed his variations with a normal body part. His slider is genius. Warne has mastered the difficult art of leg spin, the revolutions he puts on the ball and the effort is visible. Each wicket of Warne's is earnt through long hard spells or a delivery which has either taken much effort or much thought.

Yes, Muralitharan is the better bowler and anyone disputing that is insane but Warne posesses a genius which transends statistics and is the reason why many regard him as one of the best spin bowlers ever.



A test match is a test match, no?

Also, with the exception of Pakistan (by which Warne's average is 2 lower than Muralitharan), Muralitharan has performed better against all test nations than Warne.

Nope, a Test vs England, India, Pakistan etc. Is totally different to a Test against Zimb or the Bangas. Oh and dont forget my post earlier, Murali's home grounds are all tailor made for him unlike Warne's.

My votes goes to Warne easily.
What I've noticed is Warne is brilliant when batsman attack him, he knows what must do in most situations.
The one thing with Muralitharan is that teams fancy if they can get at him they can put him off. Thats what the likes of Australia and India and even Kevin Pietersen in 2006 where Murali was all at sea at times.

Considering also Warne started out very raw when he first came into test cricket and developed both his action and variations and then 2 years later he batsmen walking bemused.
Warne also knows when to use his variations and sets batsmen up, and even now when he cannot bowl balls like the googly and the flipper due to operations he still uses the leg break and the slider to excellent effect. At times Murali over bowls the doosra and it gets a bit predictable.

The question I think we still loom about Muralitharan whether or not he does chuck because although he has been cleared quite a few times, I doubt that will ever go away and thats someything Warne is never going to have on him.

Good post!

They are both amazing Spin Bowlers, Warne could easily have had the chance to go to places Zimb, and Other Sub Continet areas and chose not to. Warne will also never be able to prove himself against the best Cricketing Nation of his era. (Australia) im not australian but they are truly Dominant. Lets what happens now. Where as murali albeit his deformity is still ana amzing bowler and has played against Aussies. So i think they should just be known as great Bowlers, also either both have gone through a stage of Controversy.

Murali has done NOTHING against the Aussies, especially over here. Whereas Warne has done well on Murali's home.

I'll go with Warne unless Murali gets to 1000 and then he will be so far ahead I don't think there's a real case for Warne being better. I always change my opinion on this thouh, tomorrow it'll probably be Murali

:laugh

 

[aussie_ben91]

Murali's record is obviously noticiably better then Warne's as he has bowled on dead subcontient pitches against lesser quality batsman.

Last time Murali was down under he got thumped outta Australia by Matthew Hayden at the SCG.

 

[Jaztheman]

Doesn't Murali average 21.33 against the Aussies in Australia which is his test average too?

 

[Hooper]

Doesn't Murali average 21.33 against the Aussies in Australia which is his test average too?

So? He has like 3 wickets over here doesn't he? And he is to chicken to tour Australia in the past.

 

[Jaztheman]

Oh woops. I was looking at the wrong bit. He only has 3 wickets in australia at an average of 116 in Australia.

 

[manee]

So? He has like 3 wickets over here doesn't he? And he is to chicken to tour Australia in the past.

Maybe because Aussies chant "no ball" after every ball he bowls and he has been subject to racial abuse there too (IIRC).

 

[Griffo]

Maybe because Aussies chant "no ball" after every ball he bowls and he has been subject to racial abuse there too (IIRC).

That is the worst excuse ever given... So noone else in the world targets ANY PLAYER! its part of the game live with it! he cant change it! ADAPT!!!

 

[manee]

That is the worst excuse ever given...

That is the only logical explanation for him being 'too chicken' to tour Australia.

its part of the game live with it! he cant change it! ADAPT!!!

Making fun of someone's deformity or their race is not part of the game.

 

[A_Whitey]

Warne is a genius, Murali a freak. Warne has mastered leg-spin and all it's variations, developed astonishing accuracy combined with a lot of spin. His cricket brain is immense, manipulating and luring batsmen to their downfall (example - spending ages telling Ramprakash to "Come down the wicket Ramps! That's the way" etc, putting doubt in the mind of a batsman already unsure about his game and getting him stumped for single figures). He has an aura about him and is the best captain Australia never had. He did a lot of this without being the man whom the team was built around as in the second half of his career the Australian team was built around quicks like Gillespie, McGrath etc.

Murali, as incisive as he is, is not as good a player as Warne was/is. He has a huge unnatural advantage of being double-jointed and having a deformed arm. He has bowled the majority of his tests on sub-continental pitches, most of which in Sri Lanka were purposely laid for him. He has over 100 Test wickets against Zimb/Bangladesh, while Warne has about 13. For me, Warne was about as good as a spinner can get, using changes in pace, spin and style (flipper, slider etc) and pressuring the batsman to claim over 700 Test wickets. Murali just doesn't compare. Warne is also the better all-round player, as seen by his batting and fielding.

 

[Leicester Fox]

If somebody doesn't want to play because of racial abuse then they should be allowed to do so, no-one should have to put themselves through that just to play a sport, even at the highest level. If you went to work everyday and got racist abuse you'd quit, well you'd probably sue too but I don't think he'll be allowed to sue the fans. I didn't know there was any racism before now but if there is then thats Muralis decision and it should be respected. If it's because they call no-ball then he needs a bit of mental toughness because mainly there just trying to affect his performance and are trying to wind him up. There is a way to answer those shouts and it's by taking wickets so if thats the reason that he doesn't play in oz then he needs to toughen up imo.

 

[evertonfan]

I think the general consensus is that if your Australian then Warne's better.

 

[usy]

I bet people can take it no longer, thread will be soon closed.