Pitch types and how they affect bowling

[Ken Tremendous]

Ive really noticed that pitches DO seem to have a real affect on things.

Bowling on green decks (like the one in Antigua currently where England have been crushed) it really does move off the seam a lot, and creates great bowling conditions.

Play the same two teams on a hard deck and it doesnt move at all, realistically (unless it swings through the air), off the deck.

As for spin - not much on offer on the green but the same spinner on dusty/crumbly and you really can see the difference in the amount of turn.

Are others seeing this or is it just my placebo?

Also - quick pitch wear, i dont use it for test matches for obvious reasons, but what is it? Just cosmetic or does it affect gameplay and why would you/wouldnt you use it?

Interested in all thoughts on pitches basically...

 

[Ken Tremendous]

Anyone with any ideas?

 

[wasteyouryouth]

I've noticed a big difference in seam movement when using green pitches in contrast with others.

I would be interested to see how pitches deteriorate depending on the starting condition. Will a crumbly pitch break up quicker for example? Or a worn pitch will become more testing for batting faster than a pristine one?

A big thing I've noticed is how effective it can be bowling into footmarks.

Never used quick pitch wear.

Pitches in general is one area where greater description of the in game effects would be helpful.

 

[Rumple43]

One thing I’ve noticed at Old Trafford, the pitch has a slope.

Bowling from one end always makes the ball seam in to the right handers, and bowling from the other end makes it consistently seam away.

I’ve not looked, but is there a setting in the stadium creator to slant the strip, like at Lords?

Not tried this at other stadiums, only “Lancashire Stadium” for the time being.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

One thing I’ve noticed at Old Trafford, the pitch has a slope.

Bowling from one end always makes the ball seam in to the right handers, and bowling from the other end makes it consistently seam away.

I’ve not looked, but is there a setting in the stadium creator to slant the strip, like at Lords?

Not tried this at other stadiums, only “Lancashire Stadium” for the time being.

Happens at every ground, seam going one way at one end then the other way. If you move seam position (on classic) to 6pm it'll go the other way.

 

[Rumple43]

Good to know. The swing in/seam away and vica versa is always fun

 

[Ken Tremendous]

If you move seam position (on classic) to 6pm it'll go the other way.

How do you adjust the seam position before bowling?

 

[wasteyouryouth]

How do you adjust the seam position before bowling?

Using classic controls, if you hold when you select the delivery (so for Straight Seam you push up) it allows you to change the seam position.

Whether it's intentionally set up like this I don't know. I find it alters the trajectory of the ball more than anything. Moving it to different positions will give you a floaty shorter delivery or a sharper direct one. I just play around with it but a straight seam delivery adjusted to a 6pm felivery does go the other way.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

A quick video showing how it works. First ball is just a Standard delivery, second is Standard but seam position moved to 6pm.

 

[Deleted member 185125]

Has anyone been able to figure out which pitch type + physics modifiers gives the realistic/closest pitch behaviour?

 

[Rumple43]

Has anyone been able to figure out which pitch type + physics modifiers gives the realistic/closest pitch behaviour?

I have a set that I’ve put together for each country, but they’re far from gospel and most are completely untested. I’ll put them on here in a new thread later when I get a chance to sit at a computer.

Probably way better for multiple people to work with them and see how they get on, I really don’t get on my PS4 more than a few times a week.

I’ve had a test in England and one in Sri Lanka, but that’s it. Both played well and pretty differently though. Not played and limited overs stuff though.

 

[Rumple43]

@Mohammed Sherry @wasteyouryouth @Dutch

In the interim (as I’ll not be on til tonight at the earliest) here’s the settings I had for my recent test in Sri Lanka.

Pitch:
Crumbly, Soft, Pristine, No cracks, fast wear on.

Speed Min - 55
Speed Max - 56
Spin Bounce - 40
Spin Flight - 50
Pace Swing - 50
Pace Revs - 10
Spin Drift - 32
Spin Revs - 35/35/40/40/45
Pitch Friction - 60/45/35/25/19
Pitch Bounce - 45
Ball Friction - 65/50/40/30/22
Ball Bounce - 45
Force - 35

The sliders with multiple numbers are ones I change before the first ball of each day’s play.

These sliders gave me much more of a slower, low bounce, turning pitch compared to the game I had in England. Some of the numbers are vastly different to those on other pitches. Hopefully you all score more runs than I did :-D

 

[Dutch]

@Mohammed Sherry @wasteyouryouth @Dutch

In the interim (as I’ll not be on til tonight at the earliest) here’s the settings I had for my recent test in Sri Lanka.

Pitch:
Crumbly, Soft, Pristine, No cracks, fast wear on.

Speed Min - 55
Speed Max - 56
Spin Bounce - 40
Spin Flight - 50
Pace Swing - 50
Pace Revs - 10
Spin Drift - 32
Spin Revs - 35/35/40/40/45
Pitch Friction - 60/45/35/25/19
Pitch Bounce - 45
Ball Friction - 65/50/40/30/22
Ball Bounce - 45
Force - 35

The sliders with multiple numbers are ones I change before the first ball of each day’s play.

These sliders gave me much more of a slower, low bounce, turning pitch compared to the game I had in England. Some of the numbers are vastly different to those on other pitches. Hopefully you all score more runs than I did :-D

Very helpful!! Thanks

 

[rasdan]

@Mohammed Sherry @wasteyouryouth @Dutch

In the interim (as I’ll not be on til tonight at the earliest) here’s the settings I had for my recent test in Sri Lanka.

Pitch:
Crumbly, Soft, Pristine, No cracks, fast wear on.

Speed Min - 55
Speed Max - 56
Spin Bounce - 40
Spin Flight - 50
Pace Swing - 50
Pace Revs - 10
Spin Drift - 32
Spin Revs - 35/35/40/40/45
Pitch Friction - 60/45/35/25/19
Pitch Bounce - 45
Ball Friction - 65/50/40/30/22
Ball Bounce - 45
Force - 35

The sliders with multiple numbers are ones I change before the first ball of each day’s play.

These sliders gave me much more of a slower, low bounce, turning pitch compared to the game I had in England. Some of the numbers are vastly different to those on other pitches. Hopefully you all score more runs than I did :-D

ive always wondered how much of a difference having fast wear enabled makes.Does it have that much of an impact?

 

[Rumple43]

No idea haha

The game was done 5 overs into Day 3