Should Ganguly be Dropped From test Squad?

shud ganguly be dropped from the test squad

  • Yes

    Votes: 13 50.0%
  • No he shud be allowed to continue

    Votes: 7 26.9%
  • w'll wait for see if he can come back

    Votes: 6 23.1%

  • Total voters
    26
Desmestic Compitions can do really good because there is a lot of great talent in india. In Pakistan i know alot of people who play alot of cricket and are really good either batting or bowling. I even met this former player of a county team in England. He was pretty old!
 
Ganguly's been a good captian for India,but if a captain cannot lead from the front,he ought to be dropped.It's not just the leadership that matters over here.A skipper must also perform in his field of expertise.
Ganguly was an all- rounder .He also used to pick up wickets durinh azhars tenure.He is no doubt a great bat,but he has been out of form for a long time.Also ,India lost the Final Frontier,drew versus pakistan.His captaincy is also getting affected.
The problem in India is ,even if the player does not perform well ,he is given infinite chances.
Look at pathiv patel.and now they have got s ganguly.
I very much doubt we need some one like mike brearley(course ,ganguly's better than him)
Even the aussies did not spare steve waugh,Then why spare Ganguly?
 
dude Brearly as far as I remember was a very shrewd captain...he perhaps didnt have the team to support him...of course he might not have been as gifted a batsman as Ganguly...

and this blabber abt captain leading from the front??? yeah there have been skippers who have been able to do it, but a huge majority of skippers in the history of the game have always lost a bit of form here and there when they are crowned...In the Pak V India thread u can find how the present skippers are faring...so dont go gaga over leading from the front thing...its better for a not-that-great batsman to captain a side and lose a little bit of form than handling the captaincy to a great batsman and lettin him slide down to not-so-great form...

and every few threads, Steve Waugh's name crops up...dude look at the age when he was asked to retire - 38 - Ganguly's still 6 years away from that...and do u wanna tell me that Steve Waugh never floundered for form when he was around 30-32 year mark??? go thru stats dude...they hold the key...
 
Thanks sachinisgod, you provided some really good info about your Planet, also I like the name Earth.
sachinisgod said:
oh! different vocabs i fear...
Yeah! That's the major communication trouble. But its going both ways, isn't it?
Ajit said:
I think if Dada somehow gets nearly a run-a-ball hundred in any of the ODIs, it would make everything fine. He was a good player before he became captain and even in the first few years of his captaincy his batting wasn't bad.

The expectations from the Indian team were huge after WC. Still, he lead by example and scored a brilliant 144 at Brisbane and made his players feel that it was possible to play well in Australia. India then went on to end up with a 1-1 draw, although the expected was 0-4. India played extremely well in Pakistan as well.
Ajit said:
The biggest trouble for Dada was perhaps his teams's inconsistency and more than anything tendency to fail under pressure.
Ajit said:
Be that whatever, even someone like Tugga/I.Khan couldn't make this Indian team win everytime. The case is that our players generally suck under pressure.
Sunlight takes only around 8 minutes to reach from sun to our planet, but for your planet it takes 5 hours 16 minutes. So you people even take a longer time to comprehend the messages. Or perhaps the signals become feeble and absence of amplifiers may not allow to you get even a tinge of it.
Now, with the gravity there being 1/15 to the gravity of my planet, it isn't your fault if you have a huge tendency to jump.
And nowhere in this thread I've said a thing against Ganguly. I even voted on 'no'.I even said "he's in gr8 form". I am saying "don't drop him, whatever goes, even if we lose 0-6". Now, what better way do you support your captain. But I get it, perhaps a freezer is too hot to be talked about. Maybe we need the temperatures of Pluto/Neptune to justify your point.
Unfortunately, that passed through an inverter that somehow came in the circuit. Sorry guys, but we are yet to make a link with your 'Earth', the communication troubles haven't been solved yet. This is new research going on. Or maybe your satellite Charon is causing some trouble. btw, is Charon your picnic spot!
Yes, I was sarcastic but the case is that he suceeded in getting better average than Bala, Bhajji, and Zaheer. And Kumble averaged 95! But, can that establish Jumbo as a better player than Dada? Stats often mislead and here too the same is happening.
And captaincy isn't something I'm talking about
Ajit said:
Be that whatever, even someone like Tugga/I.Khan couldn't make this Indian team win everytime. The case is that our players generally suck under pressure.
I was talking more about pressure but the case is that your planet's atmosphere which comprises mostly of Nitrogen, Carbondixode and Methane is extremely tenuous, the surface pressure being only a few microbars.(Oh! different units I fear...)
Ajit said:
Compare these to the matches that I'm talking about.
and this was perhaps lost
Ajit said:
I can't deny that India can perform so well under ultra-high pressure that no other team(be that even Aussies) could
And you are just searching for points in Dada's favour! The case is that I myself think Dada should continue, but I don't even like talking about captaincy. I was talking about pressure, but do you know pressure could even be many times higher. Well even thought of temperatures in the range 38K to 63K could make anyone shiver here. But that's normal to you. Whatever hard you try, you can't make me believe football is played there. I face a similar trouble.
sachinisgod said:
I would say that if Kiran More went nuts and bananas tomorrow and wanted to dump Ganguly then Kumble's the only choice left with him...
Sorry, but our planet takes only 1/248th of the time your planet does,... we don't live that long lives and 34 years is amost the age to retire. And, Kumble isn't really a good ODI bowler, I don't think he deserves a place in ODI team. And we also need to prepare for WC2007, our team's can't really adapt to captaincy changes. Atleast till, WC2007 Dada should stay, and as captain.
btw, some info maybe lost on way to Pluto, just as whenever Tugga's talked about, the talk is about his being dropped from ODIs
littlegenius90 said:
Point made?

Here is a very nice article
I hope same happens with Dada, and soon... Perhaps SG(Dada) needs some help from SG(Sandy).
 
You're one of the few people on this forum who quote themselves more than others! And could you avoid the galactical analogies--I skim over most of your points because I'm looking for the cricketing stuff.
 
sohummisra said:
You're one of the few people on this forum who quote themselves more than others!

Dont worry he is talking to himself j/k
 
yeah knows that nobody else's gonna quote him...so he makes up for that...

n e way hope tomorrow ganguly does something that makes this thread redundant...
 
alas dada had some other ideas...first ball duck...but i aint duckin here...will wait till the end of the SL series to say whether he's done for good or not...
 
sachinisgod said:
alas dada had some other ideas...first ball duck...but i aint duckin here...will wait till the end of the SL series to say whether he's done for good or not...

If he doesnt do well this series, will it be good enough to risk him for another series against Sri Lanka when we can give him some good rest and ask him to come back later more fresher!!

Edit: Wow, this is my 1000th post. Just noticed it after posting!!!
 
perhaps u've made a nice point in ur 1000th thread...but i wouldn't sacrifice the batting of Dravid , Tendulkar or Sehwag at the altar of Ganguly's lack of success...not at least in this kinda series...so it has to Saurav till 17th of April at least...and if he scores some runs by then, then retain him for the SL series else rest him...but frankly i don't think unless u bring Kaif in the test side permanently and make him feel a part of it for a coupla seasons, its time for Ganguly to move out of it...not even if he wants it...
 
Perhaps we could be a captainless team. Sehwag, Dravid and Sachin could take turns at the toss and then they would together discuss with the coach strategies and field-placings etc. :D
 

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