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[Harrypotter_fan]

I can't stand IE when it is loading the page, there is a sort of click sound or something and things like that. Also FF seems faster. But scrolling in IE is much better, but then its hardly a plus point.

 

[Kshitiz_Indian]

If you need good scrolling then Opera is the way to go.

 

[Harrypotter_fan]

Opera only lacks in Auto-Complete and rendering AJAX.

 

[AbBh]

Frankly I can't understand all the IE hate in this thread. I use both IE and FF and with the release of IE 7, I really don't find that much of a difference with FF2. IE7 has fixed the major security holes in the previous version, and has added tabbed browsing. The only area where firefox [at least the second version] continues to shine over IE is the add-on's. I download plenty of them but somehow don't really use them that much for some reason.

Add to it the fact that some older websites STILL load better on IE than on firefox, which just means that IE renders a greater number of pages better than firefox, continues to be a plus point for the former.

My post was from the perspective of a developer and not a common user. If you know the limitations and CSS bugs that exist in IE6 or IE7 then you'll understand what I mean. The web would be a better place without IE as people would be able to design better websites efficiently, if they didn't have to work within limitations of Internet Explorer.

 

[Harrypotter_fan]

My post was from the perspective of a developer and not a common user. If you know the limitations and CSS bugs that exist in IE6 or IE7 then you'll understand what I mean. The web would be a better place without IE as people would be able to design better websites efficiently, if they didn't have to work within limitations of Internet Explorer.

That is too true. But the If IE comment does make it doable.

 

[sohum]

Add to it the fact that some older websites STILL load better on IE than on firefox, which just means that IE renders a greater number of pages better than firefox, continues to be a plus point for the former.

It is a plus point only due to the popularity of the browser, not because of it's quality. Web developers of the past developed their websites targeted towards IE since it had more than the lion's share of the market. Nowadays it is reaching a point of evenness. In fact, when I develop a website nowadays I design it for Firefox and then apply all the necessary hacks to make sure it looks good on IE.

IE7 is a huge improvement in terms of the rendering engine. But there are still some random gotchas here and there.

sohummisra added 2 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...

That is too true. But the If IE comment does make it doable.

It makes it doable in a very hackish sort of way. Especially if IE goes around fixing some bugs and not fixing others. For example, if they fix the bug that allows the hack but don't fix a rendering bug, then developers are screwed.

Personally I hate the conditional comments and including a different stylesheet. It's not very clean at all and the world would be much better if both browsers actually just implemented the standards.

 

[Harrypotter_fan]

The thing I have faced with IE many times is that it renders the border inside the element, while FF rightly renders it outside. Has given me a lot of headache.

 

[AbBh]

Thats due to the box model bug. It also counts the padding in the width but that only affects IE versions lower than 6.0. I have never worried about it because hardly anyone still uses those browsers.

 

[Harrypotter_fan]

Thats due to the box model bug. It also counts the padding in the width but that only affects IE versions lower than 6.0. I have never worried about it because hardly anyone still uses those browsers.

IE7 does the same too on my PC.

 

[AbBh]

That only happens in quirks mode in IE7 or IE6. Its there for backwards compatibility. Do you run it in quirks mode?

 

[Harrypotter_fan]

That only happens in quirks mode in IE7 or IE6. Its there for backwards compatibility. Do you run it in quirks mode?

Is it on by default?

 

[AbBh]

In IE6 or lower, if you don't specify a doctype, quirks mode will be triggered. I think thats not the case in IE7. I'm not sure as how quirks mode gets triggered in IE7, but if you specify a valid Doctype, it shouldn't be switched on.

 

[Neo95]

I like both FF and Opera,So every alternate month i use Opera.last month was FF's month.IMO both browsers are brilliant though FF runs away due to the great no of addons it has.

 

[angryangy]

IE 7 is a marked improvement, but the increased diversity in the market brought about the change. MS had long ago successfully quashed Netscape, the most popular browser in the mid 90s. It took several strikes, but by IE4, MS finally had a browser that was worth using. By packaging the browser into their prolific operating system, Microsoft achieved a greater than 90% market share. Comprehensively defeated, Netscape had to change tactics and thus the non-profit Mozilla Foundation was created, staffed largely by volunteers working on open source projects. Mozilla's Firefox browser only now has the market share Netscape had in 2000 when the Browser War was already decided, but the steady growth and proliferation of more browsers has eaten at Microsoft's market share.

 

[shalin_hitter]

Firefox releasing on the 17th