Video Game Mafia - Game Over: Maney and Spoobir Victorious

[Ollie_H]

Who said I was a shape-shifter? I just said that I can acquire powers and abilities.

Well you said if you took the killing power of the mafia, you would turn up mafia when investigated.

In the end your 'ability' to acquire powers could come up to harm the town, and whilst you may not be against the town now, who knows that when we get down to minimal numbers you aren't going to stay with the town?

Maybe you suddenly turn against us and poof, you have won.

There isn't much point keeping someone around who isn't town, you're just another block in the way of us winning. It's not what you will or won't do now, it's what you might do in the future and having played in other games where this has happened it's not a risk I want to take.

 

[barmyarmy]

The only group my death will benefit is the mafia. I've presented a very strong case for why I'm important to the town and I would be highly suspicious of anyone who still thinks that lynching me is a good idea.
This is a test for you. MaD has put in a very powerful pro-town character but set it up so there's a good chance you will lynch me off.

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Well you said if you took the killing power of the mafia, you would turn up mafia when investigated.

Where did I say that?

There isn't much point keeping someone around who isn't town, you're just another block in the way of us winning. It's not what you will or won't do now, it's what you might do in the future and having played in other games where this has happened it's not a risk I want to take.

I'm only a block to you winning if you are mafia.

 

[Ollie_H]

Well then so be it, be suspicious but come crunch time, I don't think you will still be wanting to help the townies so much hence why I don't think you should still be here.

 

[barmyarmy]

Indeed but as Ben rightly observed I can be very helpful in getting you to crunch time.

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I'm obviously not going to deny that I win if the mafia win or the town win but seeing as the mafia can't kill me I'm obviously going to put the weight of my powers behind the town.

 

[Ollie_H]

But then when it comes to crunch time you will be against us, in which case you have a major advantage because of your power to capture roles, even though it doesn't all add up to me.

 

[barmyarmy]

Why will I be against you? If you win I win.

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Why would I risk getting lynched off at the end by attacking the town?

 

[Ollie_H]

All we have is your word for that.

For all we know, you could just be saying that so that we can keep you alive.

 

[barmyarmy]

I think you'll get plenty of chances between now and endgame to see whether my presence helps the town or not.
You're giving me strong mafia vibes by being so desperate to lynch someone who isn't mafia.

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I sort of agree with Ollie - he's confirmed anti-town, why keep him around?

Lynch:Barmyarmy

Also where did you get "confirmed anti-town" from?
Individuals aren't anti-town. In my case I'm actually a pro-town individual.
An anti-hero by definition is someone who doesn't fit in with the other town characters but is still aligned on their side.

 

[Ollie_H]

Last time I checked, the whole of the game was to eliminate all dangers to the town or 'protagonists' in this case. So being suspicious of me because I know your not a 'protagonist' and wanting to lynch me off is a pretty poor reason.

You were allowed to give your case for why you shouldn't be lynched and now I want to give my case for why I think you should be lynched off. The last time this happened, I fought for the same thing. Why keep someone who we know isn't a townie just because you 'might' benefit the town in one way or another.

What's the other idea, lynch someone off who we don't really have much evidence against and actually end up losing a townie, whilst keeping a confirmed anti-town. Think that's more of a step backwards than a step forwards.

 

[barmyarmy]

Your logic is flawed in several places.

1. eliminate all dangers to the town - not applicable. See above.
2. Why keep someone we know isn't a townie? - because you often need those people to win
3. I shouldn't be suspicious of you? - Of course I should. You know I'm not mafia and yet are desperate to lynch me. The only group that benefits is the mafia.
4. what's the alternative? - Don't be lazy and do your actual job of finding mafia You're going to have to do it sooner or later anyway and it will be harder without me.

 

[Spoobir]

What power did you aquire last night?

 

[barmyarmy]

I didn't use my role. I'm keeping my mafia immunity for now.

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I can only have one power at a time - I can't accumulate them.

 

[Spoobir]

Oh right so you lose your original power when you gain a new one?

 

[barmyarmy]

Yes. Hence I said that is I became the cop I would have to surrender my mafia immunity for a night.

 

[Ollie_H]

Your logic is flawed in several places.

1. eliminate all dangers to the town - not applicable. See above.
2. Why keep someone we know isn't a townie? - because you often need those people to win
3. I shouldn't be suspicious of you? - Of course I should. You know I'm not mafia and yet are desperate to lynch me. The only group that benefits is the mafia.
4. what's the alternative? - Don't be lazy and do your actual job of finding mafia You're going to have to do it sooner or later anyway and it will be harder without me.

1. You're still not town though. You're still individual aligned or as people have inferred before, maybe cult. Considering you keep banging on about you're a townie who doesn't fit in.

2. But those people also turn out to be a hindrance come crunch time, and whilst you might be an aid in getting there. Who says you won't be overpowered by the time we come to win and you snatch it,

3. I didn't say you shouldn't be suspicious of me, just said it was poor reason to be. I haven't got anything to hide so be suspicious all you want.

4. Yeah and we are also going to have to get rid of the anti-heroes as well. So considering we have found a 'threat' (yes yes, I know. You might be a benefit now and la de da) why not try and eliminate that threat.