Review A promising game spoilt - its unplayable in my opinion

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The prevailing argument against people who don?t like this game is that there are ways round the issues. This acknowledges that there ARE issues. Lets cover this first:

Absurd run rates.
Poor AI ? computer slogs out in test matches when not realistic or necessary within the context of the game. The computer sometimes also blocks the last over of a 20 20 match with wickets to spare.

Frequent run outs. This covers two points I have: a) Its unrealistic. b) More importantly to some, its ANNOYING as it ruins what could have been many a competitive game. The computer runs itself out 5 times in a row sometimes within a few overs.

Batting is too forgiving for the player and AI: I like that theres no guaranteed way to get a batsman out every time. Unfortunately they took it too far...

Clean bowleds and LBWS are unrealistically rare.

Every wicketkeeper catch is a flying one handed effort.

When bowling with a spin bowler, you have to pitch the ball up unrealistically far. This is restricting froma gameplay perspective, as well as unrealistic and makes spinners, a huge aspect of the game, fairly redundant.

The AI batsman play each ball not on merit or as the match situation demands, but whether its in one of three or four PRE-DETERMINED magic yellow spots where they automatically defend.

Graphics and player likeness is laughable.

Online game awful.

Now, I?ve probably missed a few out, and a quick rummage around the forum here (at least the parts that haven?t been deleted) will show up any I?ve missed.
The BIG way round this, and the argument people are most making as to why this game is made playable despite these shortcomings, is:
1) Save the game EVERY SINGLE over ? if there?s a run out, load up the previous save... but then... every now and again there ARE run outs in cricket, so maybe keep count of how many run outs there have been that you?ve pretended never happened, and then allow one out of every 15 that the game causes?!
2) Move the bowling arrow round at the last second. This DOES NOT simply cause a nice realistic odd occasion of a batsman being caught LBW or being bowled through the gate, but tricks the AI into playing a false shot, sometimes off the wrong foot, that looks like blind cricket without the bell in the ball. So a batsman goes for a square cut off the back foot and gets caught LBW. Yay.
3) Alter the fielding settings and abilities to maximum to reduce the absurd run outs. Ok, so now EVERY player in the game has the same fielding attributes. An old world cup cricket game on the SNES did better 15 years ago! Also, what if I want to play as England or Australia?? (two of the most popular teams in the game), you can?t edit their stats, can you.
4) Even though you know you could play 6 lofted shots for boundaries off the first over of a test match, on hard difficulty, don?t. Make yourself only score at a realistic rate, even though an average player with moderate timing could score 20 an over on hard mode. Is it fun to restrict yourself this way?


Now, again I could hunt around for more examples, but we get the idea. Here?s my conclusion...

If you don?t mind saving after every over, and making all these unbelievably absurd tweaks to get a half decent game of cricket, then, with NO trace of sarcasm, I say well done. You are getting to play a game of cricket you enjoy, and clearly the joy from this outweighs the hassle and irritation of saving every over and ignoring run outs, which also wipe out everything else that happened in that over you now pretended never happened.
Me, and many others, sadly cannot, or will not do this. This is, indeed, our loss. But... is it right that we should be put into a position where a game has SO many absurd faults and irritations that we have to go through so much to make it barely playable? If I buy FIFA 2010 this year, and its a nice game, and I get the same gooey feeling passing the ball around the field I got when in AC09 I first played a late cut off the back foot for 4 through the Aussie field (see, I do like the game engine!) but theres a fault... namely, the referees are unrealistically harsh and its not uncommon to see 2-4 red cards a game... this makes the game not only irritating from a gameplay perspective but also frustrating for anyone requiring realism from their sports games. Now, even if I could save the game, mid match, every 5 minutes, and then just go back and load my last save after every red card... I wouldn?t. It would be considered a gameplay fault so bad EA would receive a huge amount of criticism, and the game wouldn?t be fun to play.

AC09 has SEVERAL faults like this, from the lack of LBWS and bowleds, to the high run rates in test matches, to the frequent run outs. This, in my opinion, makes it a bad game, albeit a bad game with a VERY GOOD AND PROMISING game engine that bodes well for the next game in the series. I write this not to criticise all aspects of the game, or to get into an unnecessary war of words with people who disagree, but to say that some people clearly are able to look beyond these faults, and some aren?t. I am genuinely jealous of those that can, as they are able to play a game I have been waiting for for years. But even if you ARE able to work round these issues, in my opinion that doesn?t change the fact that these issues and faults should NEVER have been there in the first place, and they make for a game that should struggle to achieve even a respectable rating out of 10.

Sales of the game have been promising - this is because ashes cricket 09 is the ONLY fish in a large pond. The games faults are proven in the forums, and in the number of games that are being returned or exchanged.
 
I'm sick of hearing about how much "potential" this game might have. Let's just face it - this game blows.
 
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Just now i read this long post in codemasters forum. same thing here too :eek:. After all its a game, if some one not happy, return/exchange your game and play some other.

All accept the fact the game has bugs. Those people who can overcome the bugs by tweaking can still enjoy it. But its not the way to do. Being a cricket lover, I will do it to enjoy the game. No other way this time around.

May be the speculated patch should resolve the bugs.
 
I genuinely feel sorry for you but there are a lot of people having lots of fun with this game. This one goes round and round and will always boil down to this: is someone willing to make it work for them or not. Both are equally valid; make it work, dont make it work. Its up to you. Personally I like this game, maybe its because I am too easily satisfied or dont know about real cricket or whatever but I am having heaps of fun with this game, meeting new people playing online and getting to know them here. That is worth the money I have spent on it already. having said that I fully respect someone elses opinion that differs from mine. I am so kind!:)
 
Cricket games have still got a looooong way to go. I wish they'd rethink the mechanics. Before the ball even leaves the hand you've already picked the spot to hit the ball, moved into the right position and chosen front or back foot. And then, if on hard, you play the shot JUST as the ball leaves the hand.

This is just not fun and its not cricket. The great stuff happens from the time the ball leaves the hand to the time it reaches the batsman.

I think that someone will come up with an entirely new way to play, much like golf games were improved dramatically by using the mouse to swing the club, making it feel so much more like you were actually involved and had control.
 
I genuinely feel sorry for you but there are a lot of people having lots of fun with this game. This one goes round and round and will always boil down to this: is someone willing to make it work for them or not. Both are equally valid; make it work, dont make it work. Its up to you. Personally I like this game, maybe its because I am too easily satisfied or dont know about real cricket or whatever but I am having heaps of fun with this game, meeting new people playing online and getting to know them here. That is worth the money I have spent on it already. having said that I fully respect someone elses opinion that differs from mine. I am so kind!:)

I agree entirely, as i have said in other posts, yes the length you have to bowl is wrong, but if you bowl at that length you can have a good, long and competitive game. I understand that for some people that might be a game breaker but for me I can live with it. The AI running does need sorting urgently though, as it is a pain in the backside saving every few overs.
 
Welcome to the forums, Moosegun. There are less idiots here than over at Codemasters.
 
Well for me,I enjoy the game to the core. I keep playing it the entire day,with the same intensity with which I played it on the 1`st day. I still start and play the game with the same amount of excitement. For a average gamer like me, I am very satisfied. :) :happy
 
Well for me,I enjoy the game to the core. I keep playing it the entire day,with the same intensity with which I played it on the 1`st day. I still start and play the game with the same amount of excitement. For a average gamer like me, I am very satisfied. :) :happy

And just wait until the P.C. boys start churning out the patches and mods...

MasterBlaster76 added 1 Minutes and 4 Seconds later...

Cricket games have still got a looooong way to go. I wish they'd rethink the mechanics. Before the ball even leaves the hand you've already picked the spot to hit the ball, moved into the right position and chosen front or back foot. And then, if on hard, you play the shot JUST as the ball leaves the hand.

This is just not fun and its not cricket. The great stuff happens from the time the ball leaves the hand to the time it reaches the batsman.

I think that someone will come up with an entirely new way to play, much like golf games were improved dramatically by using the mouse to swing the club, making it feel so much more like you were actually involved and had control.

How, exactly? You're not out there at the crease with a bat in your hand, you know. It's still a game...

Besides, cricket games have always done this, including the great BLIC '99.

MasterBlaster76 added 1 Minutes and 19 Seconds later...

@OP: Which version are you playing? It's no chore to save every over on the PC.
 
The prevailing argument against people who don’t like this game is that there are ways round the issues. This acknowledges that there ARE issues. Lets cover this first:

Absurd run rates.
Poor AI – computer slogs out in test matches when not realistic or necessary within the context of the game. The computer sometimes also blocks the last over of a 20 20 match with wickets to spare.

Not if you bowl properly.


Frequent run outs. This covers two points I have: a) Its unrealistic. b) More importantly to some, its ANNOYING as it ruins what could have been many a competitive game. The computer runs itself out 5 times in a row sometimes within a few overs.

Save every over, or improve your fielder's skills.


Batting is too forgiving for the player and AI: I like that theres no guaranteed way to get a batsman out every time. Unfortunately they took it too far...

Clean bowleds and LBWS are unrealistically rare.

True, but hardly gamebreaking.


Every wicketkeeper catch is a flying one handed effort.

Ditto.

When bowling with a spin bowler, you have to pitch the ball up unrealistically far. This is restricting froma gameplay perspective, as well as unrealistic and makes spinners, a huge aspect of the game, fairly redundant.

Agreed.

The AI batsman play each ball not on merit or as the match situation demands, but whether its in one of three or four PRE-DETERMINED magic yellow spots where they automatically defend.

Graphics and player likeness is laughable.

Rubbish. Graphics are good and some players likenesses are good as well, albeit not all.


Online game awful.

Now, I’ve probably missed a few out, and a quick rummage around the forum here (at least the parts that haven’t been deleted) will show up any I’ve missed.
The BIG way round this, and the argument people are most making as to why this game is made playable despite these shortcomings, is:
1) Save the game EVERY SINGLE over – if there’s a run out, load up the previous save... but then... every now and again there ARE run outs in cricket, so maybe keep count of how many run outs there have been that you’ve pretended never happened, and then allow one out of every 15 that the game causes?!

It's very easy to tell the difference between an ordinary run out and an AI -suicide-o-run-out.

2) Move the bowling arrow round at the last second. This DOES NOT simply cause a nice realistic odd occasion of a batsman being caught LBW or being bowled through the gate, but tricks the AI into playing a false shot, sometimes off the wrong foot, that looks like blind cricket without the bell in the ball. So a batsman goes for a square cut off the back foot and gets caught LBW. Yay.
3) Alter the fielding settings and abilities to maximum to reduce the absurd run outs. Ok, so now EVERY player in the game has the same fielding attributes. An old world cup cricket game on the SNES did better 15 years ago! Also, what if I want to play as England or Australia?? (two of the most popular teams in the game), you can’t edit their stats, can you.
4) Even though you know you could play 6 lofted shots for boundaries off the first over of a test match, on hard difficulty, don’t. Make yourself only score at a realistic rate, even though an average player with moderate timing could score 20 an over on hard mode. Is it fun to restrict yourself this way?


Now, again I could hunt around for more examples, but we get the idea. Here’s my conclusion...

If you don’t mind saving after every over, and making all these unbelievably absurd tweaks to get a half decent game of cricket, then, with NO trace of sarcasm, I say well done. You are getting to play a game of cricket you enjoy, and clearly the joy from this outweighs the hassle and irritation of saving every over and ignoring run outs, which also wipe out everything else that happened in that over you now pretended never happened.
Me, and many others, sadly cannot, or will not do this. This is, indeed, our loss. But... is it right that we should be put into a position where a game has SO many absurd faults and irritations that we have to go through so much to make it barely playable? If I buy FIFA 2010 this year, and its a nice game, and I get the same gooey feeling passing the ball around the field I got when in AC09 I first played a late cut off the back foot for 4 through the Aussie field (see, I do like the game engine!) but theres a fault... namely, the referees are unrealistically harsh and its not uncommon to see 2-4 red cards a game... this makes the game not only irritating from a gameplay perspective but also frustrating for anyone requiring realism from their sports games. Now, even if I could save the game, mid match, every 5 minutes, and then just go back and load my last save after every red card... I wouldn’t. It would be considered a gameplay fault so bad EA would receive a huge amount of criticism, and the game wouldn’t be fun to play.

AC09 has SEVERAL faults like this, from the lack of LBWS and bowleds, to the high run rates in test matches, to the frequent run outs. This, in my opinion, makes it a bad game, albeit a bad game with a VERY GOOD AND PROMISING game engine that bodes well for the next game in the series. I write this not to criticise all aspects of the game, or to get into an unnecessary war of words with people who disagree, but to say that some people clearly are able to look beyond these faults, and some aren’t. I am genuinely jealous of those that can, as they are able to play a game I have been waiting for for years. But even if you ARE able to work round these issues, in my opinion that doesn’t change the fact that these issues and faults should NEVER have been there in the first place, and they make for a game that should struggle to achieve even a respectable rating out of 10.

Sales of the game have been promising - this is because ashes cricket 09 is the ONLY fish in a large pond. The games faults are proven in the forums, and in the number of games that are being returned or exchanged.[/QUOTE]

MasterBlaster76 added 0 Minutes and 56 Seconds later...

His join date is June 2004 :p

Oh. :laugh :laugh :o :o :o

I automatically assumed because I've never seen him around here before, but I have seen him at Codemasters..

Where's my shovel?
 
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