Australian Domestic Cricket

[cricketmad09]

Ashton Agar? Ashton Agun.

 

[War]

God i just hope the AUS selectors don't ever consider Ryan Harris for test's. He has come back well, but his body can't handle 5-day cricket.

Just let him be the ODI/T20 attack spearhead en route to the champions trophy, 2014 & 2015 world cups.

 

[sifter132]

^I'm sure it's going to be debated. Harris can't come back, bowl well and yet be out of the running for a Test spot. I'm sure he'll want to play Tests, and he will probably deserve a spot too at some point. Not sure the selectors will have the self control to essentially retire him from the Test side.

I can see your point, and I'd probably lean your way...but just to be argumentative :P...why should the selectors trust Pattinson or Cummins to finish a match any more than Harris can? They are all injury prone players. The 2 young guys should harden up over time, but right now they are just as large a risk as Harris. Hence we're seeing talk of resting Pattinson in the 2nd Test.

 

[War]

The key difference is that Harris has a chronic knee injury as i've always said that is similar to Flintoff & Malinga that just can't stand 5-day.

The last 5-day game he in the windies last april, it has take him until February this year to be able to bowl again.

So if it is Harris himself wants to kee fighthing this injury to play tests, the selectors are going to have to retire him for his own good.

AUS got like 10 fast-bowlers who they can use in tests. Harris's importance to test team now isn't as vital as immediately post 2011 Ashes, that AUS have to behave with him like N Zealand did with Shane Bond & act like they don't have quality fast-bowling depth.

Harris is 33. He is top bowler & he can serve AUS cricket for a few more years by being an ODI/T20 specialist. The more 4-day/test cricket he plays risks ending his career prematurely & that won't be good for anybody.

 

[Aislabie]

Anyone tipping the odds of Agar for the Ashes?

 

[sifter132]

Agar or everyone's favourite asylum seeker, Fawad Ahmed, would have to be talked about, yes. Especially since Mickey Arthur revealed that he hasn't been entirely happy with Lyon all summer. Seems like it's waiting for a spinner to grab the top job again.

 

[cricketmad09]

Gulbis batting at no. 10 for Tasmania. Bloke initially made the Victorian team as a middle order batsmen. It'd be difficult finding a stronger tail anywhere in domestic cricket than Faulkner, Butterworth and Gulbis.

 

[Aislabie]

Agar or everyone's favourite asylum seeker, Fawad Ahmed, would have to be talked about, yes. Especially since Mickey Arthur revealed that he hasn't been entirely happy with Lyon all summer. Seems like it's waiting for a spinner to grab the top job again.

One of the two. It's pretty poor though, waiting for a poor performance, then instantly outing your main only spinning threat. I'd still say he's been poorly handled. He rose to the Australian side as a white-ball-magician, and was promptly used as a TMO. I understand that Xav Doherty is for whatever reason the leading white-ball spinner in Aus, but I still think Lyon should have been given some semblance of a chance.

It also pisses me off that Fawad and Ashton have both jumped past O'Keefe in the pecking order? What does he have to do? The Aussies have gone through well over a dozen spinners from their six states since Warne went, and still haven't picked the only one around averaging (if my memory serves me right) under thirty.

 

[sifter132]

^Completely agree with you. It demonstrably goes against the new pledge of the Argus review into Australian cricket which was promising that "'players must earn their positions in the time-honoured way of making runs, taking wickets and showing that they are ready to play at the next level''. I can't see anywhere where Maxwell and Doherty have been taking wickets or making runs this season. Henriques has at least had a good Shield season, the other 2 have done nothing.

On a more positive note...A couple of great fighting knocks in the Shield thus far this weekend!
Mr Cricket made 99* and was the last man standing in WA's 235 all out. Come back Huss - dammit! And Joe Burns made 120 vs Tassie in QLD's 281 all out. That's the kind of innings that will get him some notice with the selectors.

 

[aussie1st]

Maddinson might finally have turned that corner, he easily looks the best of our youngsters technique wise and importantly plays spin well. Nice seeing runs from Burns again, was fearing he might be hit by the second year syndrome.

Agar keeps taking wickets, with the spin cycle started again looks like he'll be next in line. At least we will finally pick a spinner with a good FC average even if it is only after a few games.

 

[CremerCurrans]

Looks like Gulbis has become a bowler for Tasmania. From what I remember he was handy; Was quicker than the batsmen expected. It's strange, because I'm use to him being a batsmen.

 

[aussie1st]

Jordan Silk my next batting talent I'll be hyping up. Back to back 50s for him now and we know he can field.

Nice 50 for Burns, he had a slow start to the season but really knuckling in for the business end.

 

[angryangy]

Yep, Australia will jump all over a promising batsman who can field, so I expect he'll feature sooner rather than later.

And Gulbis at 10 is pretty funny. He picks himself with that bowling form, no mere medium pacer, to be sure. Faulkner is probably not a genuine number 7 yet, but just the ideal man when looking to declare.

 

[Biggy]

Jeez, could the Sheffield Shield be any closer?

 

[angryangy]

I hate to say it, but the tournament badly needs to see some draws. There have been some dicey pitches sure, but I think the teams just can't bat. What you want to see sometimes is a team that is losing but doesn't. That's a very big part of cricket.