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I was wondering whether @VC the slogger or anyone else had ever had any luck in making Cricksim produce realistic T20-ish scores from 25 over matches?
I'm guessing the "magic" numbers VC found would be relevant here
I'm guessing the "magic" numbers VC found would be relevant here
Might also tag @Na Maloom Afraad here, IDK if he found anything while doing WOC?
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An interesting question to wake up to. It's been more than a decade since I last even tinkered with the T25-30 stuff on Cricksim; instead I just put my energies into perfecting my Test and one-day ratings as much as I could. So the answer is no from my side. However, putting those so-called 'magic numbers' to Test for the first time (I didn't know they existed way back in 2014), I did a few test runs anyway and this is what I found:
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TOO LATE CC Team Editing
No Player Bat Type Avg Bowl Kind Avg
1 Jake Fraser-McGurk Right Handed Batsman 66 Right Arm Off Spin 99
2 Gordon Greenidge Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Off Spin 99
3 Mahadevan SathasivamRight Handed Batsman 14 Right Arm Off Spin 99
4 Rahul Dravid Right Handed Batsman 51 Keeper 99
5 Javed Miandad Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Off Spin 99
6 Chris Cairns Right Handed Batsman 66 Right Arm Medium 25
7 Andrew Symonds Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Off Spin 35
8 Albie Morkel Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Fast 23
9 Ray Lindwall Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Medium 14
10 Graeme Swann Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Leg Break 18
11 Dale Steyn Right Handed Batsman 11 Right Arm Fast 14
12 Shahid Afridi Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Leg Break 34
13 Wilfred Rhodes Right Handed Batsman 33 Left Arm Medium 28
14 Dirk Nannes Right Handed Batsman 11 Left Arm Fast Medium 25
15 Carst Posthuma Left Handed Batsman 12 Left Arm Medium 25
16 George Headley Right Handed Batsman 63 Right Arm Off Spin 99
17 Steve Waugh Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Fast Medium 32
18 Lucius Gwynn Right Handed Batsman 36 Right Arm Fast Medium 99
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Team Editing
No Player Bat Type Avg Bowl Kind Avg
1 Charles Buchwald Right Handed Batsman 14 Right Arm Off Spin 99
2 Johan Schroder Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Off Spin 99
3 Denis Compton Right Handed Batsman 63 Right Arm Leg Break 42
4 CB Fry Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Off Spin 99
5 Les Ames Right Handed Batsman 51 Keeper 99
6 Chuni Goswami Right Handed Batsman 14 Right Arm Fast Medium 36
7 Walter Robins Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Leg Break 23
8 Herbert Dorning Left Handed Batsman 14 Left Arm Medium 14
9 Ken Hough Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Fast 23
10 Claude Buckenham Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Fast Medium 25
11 Arnie Sidebottom Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Medium 18
12 CO Obuya Right Handed Batsman 10 Right Arm Medium0 70
13 BJ Patel Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Medium 60
14 DO Obuya Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Medium 50
15 TM Odoyo Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Fast Medium 34
16 SK Gupta Right Handed Batsman 20 Right Arm Medium 99
17 D Chudasama Right Handed Batsman 23 Right Arm Medium 99
18 M Sheikh Right Handed Batsman 15 Right Arm Medium 48
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Code:
Date: 12-26-2024
TOO LATE CC VS FOOTBALLERS CLUB
25 overs match
Pitch Condition: Poor
TOO LATE CC WON THE TOSS AND ELECTED TO BAT FIRST
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TOO LATE CC innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Jake Fraser-McGurk c. Robins b. Dorning 13 13 1 1 100.0%
Gordon Greenidge b. Robins 72 61 6 2 118.0%
Mahadevan Sathasivamlbw b. Dorning 0 1 0 0 0.0%
Rahul Dravid c. Compton b. Buckenham 1 4 0 0 25.0%
Javed Miandad b. Hough 54 55 7 1 98.2%
Chris Cairns not out 8 10 0 1 80.0%
Andrew Symonds b. Goswami 9 5 1 0 180.0%
Albie Morkel not out 1 1 0 0 100.0%
Ray Lindwall
Graeme Swann
Dale Steyn
Total: 166/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 6.64 Extras: 8
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Herbert Dorning 5.0 0 29 2 5.80 0 0
Arnie Sidebottom 5.0 0 31 0 6.20 0 0
Claude Buckenham 5.0 0 33 1 6.60 0 1
Walter Robins 5.0 0 39 1 7.80 0 0
Ken Hough 4.0 0 22 1 5.50 0 1
Chuni Goswami 1.0 0 6 1 6.00 0 0
EXTRAS Wides: 0 No Balls: 2 Leg Byes: 2 Byes: 4
Total: 166/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 6.64 Extras: 8
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TOO LATE CC Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
Frase'Gurk Greenidge þþþþþþ 22 (20)
Sathasivam Greenidge 0 (1)
R Dravid Greenidge þþ 9 (9)
J Miandad Greenidge þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 111 (102)
C Cairns Greenidge þ 4 (2)
C Cairns A Symonds þþþþþ 19 (14)
C Cairns A Morkel þ 1 (2)
Fall of Wickets 22/1 22/2 31/3 142/4 146/5
165/6
Total: 166/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 6.64 Extras: 8
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Charles Buchwald c. Steyn b. Lindwall 2 7 0 0 28.6%
Johan Schroder b. Swann 15 11 1 0 136.4%
Denis Compton c. Miandad b. Swann 29 32 4 0 90.6%
CB Fry not out 72 57 6 5 126.3%
Les Ames not out 47 38 7 0 123.7%
Chuni Goswami
Walter Robins
Herbert Dorning
Ken Hough
Claude Buckenham
Arnie Sidebottom
Total: 169/3 Overs: 23.5 Run Rate: 7.09 Extras: 4
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TOO LATE CC Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Dale Steyn 5.0 0 33 0 6.60 0 0
Ray Lindwall 5.0 0 32 1 6.40 1 0
Graeme Swann 4.0 0 21 2 5.25 0 0
Andrew Symonds 2.0 0 10 0 5.00 0 0
Albie Morkel 4.5 0 49 0 10.14 1 0
Chris Cairns 3.0 0 22 0 7.33 0 0
EXTRAS Wides: 2 No Balls: 0 Leg Byes: 2 Byes: 0
Total: 169/3 Overs: 23.5 Run Rate: 7.09 Extras: 4
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
C Buchwald J Schroder þ 5 (9)
D Compton J Schroder þþþþþþþþþþþþ 35 (24)
D Compton C Fry þþþþþþþþþþþ 32 (35)
L Ames C Fry þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 97 (75)
Fall of Wickets 5/1 40/2 72/3
Total: 169/3 Overs: 23.5 Run Rate: 7.09 Extras: 4
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TOO LATE CC 166/6 25.0 overs
FOOTBALLERS CLUB 169/3 23.5 overs
Footballers Club won by 7 wickets
Man of the match: CB Fry
Code:
Date: 12-26-2024
TOO LATE CC VS FOOTBALLERS CLUB
25 overs match
Pitch Condition: Poor
FOOTBALLERS CLUB WON THE TOSS AND ELECTED TO BOWL FIRST
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TOO LATE CC innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Jake Fraser-McGurk c. Fry b. Sidebottom 14 7 2 0 200.0%
Gordon Greenidge c. Hough b. Sidebottom 1 6 0 0 16.7%
Mahadevan Sathasivamlbw b. Hough 1 3 0 0 33.3%
Rahul Dravid b. Sidebottom 29 25 4 0 116.0%
Javed Miandad b. Hough 50 41 4 3 122.0%
Chris Cairns c. Ames b. Sidebottom 22 23 2 1 95.7%
Andrew Symonds not out 38 31 2 3 122.6%
Albie Morkel not out 14 19 1 0 73.7%
Ray Lindwall
Graeme Swann
Dale Steyn
Total: 179/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.16 Extras: 10
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Herbert Dorning 5.0 0 35 0 7.00 0 1
Arnie Sidebottom 5.0 0 27 4 5.40 1 0
Ken Hough 5.0 1 32 2 6.40 1 0
Walter Robins 5.0 0 47 0 9.40 2 1
Claude Buckenham 4.0 0 35 0 8.75 0 3
Chuni Goswami 1.0 0 3 0 3.00 1 0
EXTRAS Wides: 5 No Balls: 5 Leg Byes: 0 Byes: 0
Total: 179/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.16 Extras: 10
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TOO LATE CC Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
Frase'Gurk Greenidge þþþþþþ 15 (9)
Sathasivam Greenidge þ 1 (4)
R Dravid Greenidge þþþþ 10 (10)
R Dravid J Miandad þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 51 (33)
C Cairns J Miandad þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 45 (40)
A Symonds J Miandad 0 (6)
A Symonds A Morkel þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 57 (48)
Fall of Wickets 15/1 16/2 26/3 77/4 122/5
122/6
Total: 179/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.16 Extras: 10
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Charles Buchwald c. Dravid b. Swann 13 25 2 0 52.0%
Johan Schroder c. Dravid b. Steyn 41 30 5 1 136.7%
Denis Compton c. Greenidge b. Swann 5 10 0 0 50.0%
CB Fry not out 39 43 3 2 90.7%
Les Ames c. Greenidge b. Steyn 13 19 0 0 68.4%
Chuni Goswami c. Dravid b. Steyn 0 2 0 0 0.0%
Walter Robins not out 42 26 5 1 161.5%
Herbert Dorning
Ken Hough
Claude Buckenham
Arnie Sidebottom
Total: 160/5 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 6.40 Extras: 7
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TOO LATE CC Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Dale Steyn 5.0 0 28 3 5.60 2 0
Ray Lindwall 4.0 0 32 0 8.00 1 0
Chris Cairns 5.0 0 19 0 3.80 0 0
Graeme Swann 5.0 0 16 2 3.20 1 0
Albie Morkel 4.0 0 52 0 13.00 1 0
Andrew Symonds 2.0 0 11 0 5.50 0 0
EXTRAS Wides: 5 No Balls: 0 Leg Byes: 2 Byes: 0
Total: 160/5 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 6.40 Extras: 7
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
C Buchwald J Schroder þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 42 (41)
D Compton J Schroder þþþþþþþ 17 (13)
C Fry J Schroder þþþ 8 (17)
C Fry L Ames þþþþþþþþþþþ 26 (28)
C Fry C Goswami 0 (2)
C Fry W Robins þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 67 (49)
Fall of Wickets 42/1 59/2 67/3 93/4 93/5
Total: 160/5 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 6.40 Extras: 7
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TOO LATE CC 179/6 25.0 overs
FOOTBALLERS CLUB 160/5 25.0 overs
Too Late CC won by 19 runs
Man of the match: Javed MiandadWith the first set of ratings I was getting scoring rates ranging between 6-7 an over which although passable is far from satisfactory for a T20 contest, and teams rarely lost more than 5-6 wickets per innings which was a bit of a concern. So I decided to switch things up a bit once again, this time by using one of those 'magic' fixes I never told anyone about previously (call it a secret ingredient if you will
). Hint: look at the bowling styles.
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TOO LATE CC Team Editing
No Player Bat Type Avg Bowl Kind Avg
1 Jake Fraser-McGurk Right Handed Batsman 66 Right Arm Off Spin 99
2 Gordon Greenidge Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Off Spin 99
3 Mahadevan SathasivamRight Handed Batsman 14 Right Arm Off Spin 99
4 Rahul Dravid Right Handed Batsman 51 Keeper 99
5 Javed Miandad Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Off Spin 99
6 Chris Cairns Right Handed Batsman 66 Right Arm Medium 25
7 Andrew Symonds Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Off Spin 35
8 Albie Morkel Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Medium 23
9 Ray Lindwall Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Medium 14
10 Graeme Swann Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Leg Break 18
11 Dale Steyn Right Handed Batsman 11 Right Arm Medium 14
12 Shahid Afridi Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Leg Break 34
13 Wilfred Rhodes Right Handed Batsman 33 Left Arm Medium 28
14 Dirk Nannes Right Handed Batsman 11 Left Arm Fast Medium 25
15 Carst Posthuma Left Handed Batsman 12 Left Arm Medium 25
16 George Headley Right Handed Batsman 63 Right Arm Off Spin 99
17 Steve Waugh Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Fast Medium 32
18 Lucius Gwynn Right Handed Batsman 36 Right Arm Fast Medium 99
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Team Editing
No Player Bat Type Avg Bowl Kind Avg
1 Charles Buchwald Right Handed Batsman 14 Right Arm Off Spin 99
2 Johan Schroder Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Off Spin 99
3 Denis Compton Right Handed Batsman 63 Right Arm Leg Break 42
4 CB Fry Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Off Spin 99
5 Les Ames Right Handed Batsman 51 Keeper 99
6 Chuni Goswami Right Handed Batsman 14 Right Arm Medium 36
7 Walter Robins Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Leg Break 23
8 Herbert Dorning Left Handed Batsman 14 Left Arm Medium 14
9 Ken Hough Right Handed Batsman 51 Right Arm Fast 23
10 Claude Buckenham Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Medium 25
11 Arnie Sidebottom Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Medium 18
12 CO Obuya Right Handed Batsman 10 Right Arm Medium0 70
13 BJ Patel Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Medium 60
14 DO Obuya Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Medium 50
15 TM Odoyo Right Handed Batsman 12 Right Arm Fast Medium 34
16 SK Gupta Right Handed Batsman 20 Right Arm Medium 99
17 D Chudasama Right Handed Batsman 23 Right Arm Medium 99
18 M Sheikh Right Handed Batsman 15 Right Arm Medium 48
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Code:
Date: 12-26-2024
TOO LATE CC VS FOOTBALLERS CLUB at [
25 overs match
Pitch Condition: Poor
TOO LATE CC WON THE TOSS AND ELECTED TO BAT FIRST
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TOO LATE CC innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Jake Fraser-McGurk c. Sidebottom b. Robins 53 46 6 1 115.2%
Gordon Greenidge c. Sidebottom b. Robins 34 31 4 1 109.7%
Mahadevan Sathasivamc. Buchwald b. Robins 2 6 0 0 33.3%
Rahul Dravid b. Sidebottom 31 22 3 0 140.9%
Javed Miandad not out 66 41 13 0 161.0%
Chris Cairns not out 10 11 2 0 90.9%
Andrew Symonds
Albie Morkel
Ray Lindwall
Graeme Swann
Dale Steyn
Total: 209/4 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 8.36 Extras: 13
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Herbert Dorning 5.0 0 47 0 9.40 2 0
Arnie Sidebottom 4.0 0 21 1 5.25 0 0
Claude Buckenham 5.0 0 49 0 9.80 3 3
Walter Robins 5.0 0 26 3 5.20 0 0
Ken Hough 3.0 0 21 0 7.00 0 0
Chuni Goswami 3.0 0 44 0 14.67 2 2
EXTRAS Wides: 7 No Balls: 5 Leg Byes: 1 Byes: 0
Total: 209/4 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 8.36 Extras: 13
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TOO LATE CC Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
Frase'Gurk Greenidge þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 84 (69)
Frase'Gurk Sathasivam þþþ 8 (11)
Frase'Gurk R Dravid þ 5 (4)
J Miandad R Dravid þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 93 (53)
J Miandad C Cairns þþþþþþþ 19 (13)
Fall of Wickets 84/1 92/2 97/3 190/4
Total: 209/4 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 8.36 Extras: 13
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Charles Buchwald c. Greenidge b. Lindwall 8 11 0 0 72.7%
Johan Schroder lbw b. Lindwall 68 46 10 3 147.8%
Denis Compton lbw b. Symonds 22 15 3 1 146.7%
CB Fry st Dravid b. Swann 3 3 0 0 100.0%
Les Ames b. Steyn 36 39 6 1 92.3%
Chuni Goswami c. Morkel b. Swann 8 12 0 0 66.7%
Walter Robins not out 20 28 1 1 71.4%
Herbert Dorning not out 3 2 0 0 150.0%
Ken Hough
Claude Buckenham
Arnie Sidebottom
Total: 195/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.80 Extras: 27
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TOO LATE CC Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Dale Steyn 4.0 0 37 1 9.25 2 1
Ray Lindwall 5.0 0 39 2 7.80 0 2
Albie Morkel 3.0 0 18 0 6.00 0 0
Chris Cairns 5.0 0 34 0 6.80 3 0
Graeme Swann 5.0 0 32 2 6.40 1 0
Andrew Symonds 3.0 0 17 1 5.67 0 0
EXTRAS Wides: 6 No Balls: 3 Leg Byes: 6 Byes: 12
Total: 195/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.80 Extras: 27
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
C Buchwald J Schroder þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 36 (31)
D Compton J Schroder þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 61 (35)
C Fry J Schroder þþþþ 11 (5)
C Fry L Ames þþ 6 (6)
C Goswami L Ames þþþþþþþþ 20 (21)
W Robins L Ames þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 58 (50)
W Robins H Dorning þ 3 (2)
Fall of Wickets 36/1 97/2 108/3 114/4 134/5
192/6
Total: 195/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.80 Extras: 27
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TOO LATE CC 209/4 25.0 overs
FOOTBALLERS CLUB 195/6 25.0 overs
Too Late CC won by 14 runs
Man of the match: Javed Miandad
Code:
Date: 12-26-2024
TOO LATE CC VS FOOTBALLERS CLUB
25 overs match
Pitch Condition: Poor
TOO LATE CC WON THE TOSS AND ELECTED TO BAT FIRST
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TOO LATE CC innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Jake Fraser-McGurk not out 84 68 8 3 123.5%
Gordon Greenidge c. Ames b. Dorning 29 19 5 0 152.6%
Mahadevan Sathasivam c & b. Hough 3 5 0 0 60.0%
Rahul Dravid c. Ames b. Hough 12 9 1 0 133.3%
Javed Miandad c. Compton b. Hough 30 35 3 1 85.7%
Chris Cairns c. Ames b. Sidebottom 16 14 3 0 114.3%
Andrew Symonds not out 4 2 1 0 200.0%
Albie Morkel
Ray Lindwall
Graeme Swann
Dale Steyn
Total: 189/5 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.56 Extras: 11
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Herbert Dorning 5.0 0 36 1 7.20 0 1
Arnie Sidebottom 4.0 0 41 1 10.25 1 1
Chuni Goswami 2.0 0 15 0 7.50 0 0
Walter Robins 5.0 0 39 0 7.80 1 1
Ken Hough 5.0 0 31 3 6.20 0 0
Claude Buckenham 4.0 0 22 0 5.50 0 1
EXTRAS Wides: 2 No Balls: 4 Leg Byes: 5 Byes: 0
Total: 189/5 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.56 Extras: 11
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TOO LATE CC Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
Frase'Gurk Greenidge þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 49 (33)
Frase'Gurk Sathasivam þþ 5 (6)
Frase'Gurk R Dravid þþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 33 (24)
Frase'Gurk J Miandad þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 68 (59)
Frase'Gurk C Cairns þþþþþþþþþþþþþ 30 (26)
Frase'Gurk A Symonds þ 4 (2)
Fall of Wickets 49/1 54/2 87/3 155/4 185/5
Total: 189/5 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.56 Extras: 11
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Charles Buchwald b. Steyn 0 1 0 0 0.0%
Johan Schroder c. Dravid b. Lindwall 3 4 0 0 75.0%
Denis Compton c. Miandad b. Symonds 5 14 0 0 35.7%
CB Fry c. Steyn b. Morkel 24 12 5 0 200.0%
Les Ames b. Steyn 2 5 0 0 40.0%
Chuni Goswami st Dravid b. Symonds 0 2 0 0 0.0%
Walter Robins c. Miandad b. Steyn 9 20 0 0 45.0%
Herbert Dorning not out 9 18 0 0 50.0%
Ken Hough run out (Sathasivam) 4 5 0 0 80.0%
Claude Buckenham c. Frase'Gurk b. Morkel 4 3 0 0 133.3%
Arnie Sidebottom c. Frase'Gurk b. Lindwall 2 6 0 0 33.3%
Total: 66/10 Overs: 14.5 Run Rate: 2.64 Extras: 4
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TOO LATE CC Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Dale Steyn 4.0 1 9 3 2.25 0 1
Ray Lindwall 2.5 0 14 2 4.94 1 0
Albie Morkel 3.0 0 25 2 8.33 0 0
Chris Cairns 1.0 0 3 0 3.00 0 0
Andrew Symonds 2.0 1 7 2 3.50 0 0
Graeme Swann 2.0 0 6 0 3.00 0 0
EXTRAS Wides: 1 No Balls: 1 Leg Byes: 2 Byes: 0
Total: 66/10 Overs: 14.5 Run Rate: 2.64 Extras: 4
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
C Buchwald J Schroder 0 (1)
D Compton J Schroder þ 4 (10)
D Compton C Fry þþþþþþþþþþþþ 28 (17)
D Compton L Ames þ 2 (3)
C Goswami L Ames 0 (2)
W Robins L Ames þ 2 (8)
W Robins H Dorning þþþþþþþ 16 (26)
K Hough H Dorning þþ 6 (7)
Buckenham H Dorning þþ 5 (7)
Sidebottom H Dorning þ 3 (8)
Fall of Wickets 0/1 4/2 32/3 34/4 34/5
36/6 52/7 58/8 63/9 66/10
Total: 66/10 Overs: 14.5 Run Rate: 2.64 Extras: 4
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TOO LATE CC 189/5 25.0 overs
FOOTBALLERS CLUB 66 14.5 overs
Too Late CC won by 123 runs
Man of the match: Jake Fraser-McGurk
Code:
Date: 12-26-2024
TOO LATE CC VS FOOTBALLERS CLUB
25 overs match
Pitch Condition: Poor
FOOTBALLERS CLUB WON THE TOSS AND ELECTED TO BAT FIRST
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Charles Buchwald c. Sathasivam b. Steyn 0 2 0 0 0.0%
Johan Schroder lbw b. Lindwall 4 2 1 0 200.0%
Denis Compton lbw b. Swann 15 13 2 0 115.4%
CB Fry b. Morkel 46 43 4 1 107.0%
Les Ames c. Steyn b. Lindwall 40 38 4 2 105.3%
Chuni Goswami lbw b. Morkel 0 2 0 0 0.0%
Walter Robins b. Morkel 10 15 0 0 66.7%
Herbert Dorning run out (Swann) 3 6 0 0 50.0%
Ken Hough not out 8 11 1 0 72.7%
Claude Buckenham lbw b. Morkel 0 2 0 0 0.0%
Arnie Sidebottom lbw b. Swann 0 2 0 0 0.0%
Total: 136/10 Overs: 22.2 Run Rate: 5.44 Extras: 10
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TOO LATE CC Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Dale Steyn 4.0 0 34 1 8.50 0 0
Ray Lindwall 5.0 0 23 2 4.60 0 0
Albie Morkel 4.0 1 15 4 3.75 1 0
Graeme Swann 4.2 0 20 2 4.62 1 0
Andrew Symonds 4.0 0 33 0 8.25 0 3
Chris Cairns 1.0 0 6 0 6.00 0 0
EXTRAS Wides: 2 No Balls: 3 Leg Byes: 5 Byes: 0
Total: 136/10 Overs: 22.2 Run Rate: 5.44 Extras: 10
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
C Buchwald J Schroder 0 (2)
D Compton J Schroder þþþþ 10 (6)
D Compton C Fry þþþþþþþþþþ 23 (23)
L Ames C Fry þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 73 (62)
L Ames C Goswami 0 (2)
L Ames W Robins þþþ 8 (7)
H Dorning W Robins þþ 6 (9)
K Hough W Robins þþþþþþ 14 (18)
K Hough Buckenham 0 (2)
K Hough Sidebottom þ 2 (3)
Fall of Wickets 0/1 10/2 33/3 106/4 106/5
114/6 120/7 134/8 134/9 136/10
Total: 136/10 Overs: 22.2 Run Rate: 5.44 Extras: 10
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TOO LATE CC innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Jake Fraser-McGurk st Ames b. Robins 24 28 2 1 85.7%
Gordon Greenidge run out (Ames) 22 37 2 0 59.5%
Mahadevan Sathasivamrun out (Compton) 0 1 0 0 0.0%
Rahul Dravid b. Dorning 5 11 0 0 45.5%
Javed Miandad c. Schroder b. Dorning 2 13 0 0 15.4%
Chris Cairns c. Compton b. Buckenham 15 18 2 0 83.3%
Andrew Symonds lbw b. Dorning 0 1 0 0 0.0%
Albie Morkel not out 25 30 3 1 83.3%
Ray Lindwall run out (Compton) 0 2 0 0 0.0%
Graeme Swann not out 8 11 0 0 72.7%
Dale Steyn
Total: 120/8 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 4.80 Extras: 19
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Herbert Dorning 5.0 0 21 3 4.20 0 0
Arnie Sidebottom 5.0 0 26 0 5.20 0 1
Ken Hough 4.0 0 15 0 3.75 1 1
Claude Buckenham 5.0 0 19 1 3.80 0 2
Walter Robins 5.0 0 22 1 4.40 0 1
Denis Compton 1.0 0 5 0 5.00 1 0
EXTRAS Wides: 2 No Balls: 5 Leg Byes: 4 Byes: 8
Total: 120/8 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 4.80 Extras: 19
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TOO LATE CC Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
Frase'Gurk Greenidge þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 44 (48)
Sathasivam Greenidge þ 1 (3)
R Dravid Greenidge þþþþþ 13 (17)
R Dravid J Miandad þþ 5 (18)
R Dravid C Cairns þ 1 (3)
A Symonds C Cairns 0 (1)
A Morkel C Cairns þþþþþþþþ 20 (23)
A Morkel R Lindwall þ 1 (5)
A Morkel G Swann þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 35 (32)
Fall of Wickets 44/1 45/2 58/3 63/4 64/5
64/6 84/7 85/8
Total: 120/8 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 4.80 Extras: 19
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB 136 22.2 overs
TOO LATE CC 120/8 25.0 overs
Footballers Club won by 16 runs
Man of the match: Herbert Dorning
Code:
Date: 12-26-2024
TOO LATE CC VS FOOTBALLERS CLUB
25 overs match
Pitch Condition: Poor
FOOTBALLERS CLUB WON THE TOSS AND ELECTED TO BAT FIRST
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Charles Buchwald c. Miandad b. Cairns 1 2 0 0 50.0%
Johan Schroder b. Lindwall 49 52 5 1 94.2%
Denis Compton c. Symonds b. Swann 25 22 4 0 113.6%
CB Fry lbw b. Steyn 65 31 6 3 209.7%
Les Ames c. Symonds b. Swann 8 25 1 0 32.0%
Chuni Goswami not out 12 11 1 0 109.1%
Walter Robins b. Cairns 7 8 1 0 87.5%
Herbert Dorning not out 1 2 0 0 50.0%
Ken Hough
Claude Buckenham
Arnie Sidebottom
Total: 180/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.20 Extras: 12
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TOO LATE CC Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Dale Steyn 5.0 0 24 1 4.80 0 0
Ray Lindwall 5.0 0 42 1 8.40 2 0
Chris Cairns 4.0 0 29 2 7.25 0 2
Albie Morkel 5.0 0 48 0 9.60 0 2
Graeme Swann 5.0 0 28 2 5.60 1 2
Andrew Symonds 1.0 0 6 0 6.00 0 0
EXTRAS Wides: 3 No Balls: 6 Leg Byes: 2 Byes: 1
Total: 180/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.20 Extras: 12
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
C Buchwald J Schroder þþ 5 (13)
D Compton J Schroder þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 42 (36)
C Fry J Schroder þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 76 (42)
C Fry L Ames þþþþþþþþþþþþþ 30 (33)
C Fry C Goswami þþþ 8 (8)
W Robins C Goswami þþþþþ 13 (15)
H Dorning C Goswami þþ 6 (3)
Fall of Wickets 5/1 47/2 123/3 153/4 161/5
174/6
Total: 180/6 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 7.20 Extras: 12
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TOO LATE CC innings
Player Status Runs Blls 4s 6s S/R
Jake Fraser-McGurk c. Ames b. Robins 36 24 6 1 150.0%
Gordon Greenidge c. Dorning b. Sidebottom 35 40 5 1 87.5%
Mahadevan Sathasivamc. Ames b. Buckenham 3 6 0 0 50.0%
Rahul Dravid c. Ames b. Dorning 20 37 3 0 54.1%
Javed Miandad lbw b. Buckenham 30 29 3 1 103.4%
Chris Cairns not out 12 8 1 0 150.0%
Andrew Symonds not out 19 7 2 1 271.4%
Albie Morkel
Ray Lindwall
Graeme Swann
Dale Steyn
Total: 166/5 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 6.64 Extras: 11
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB Bowling
Player Overs Mdns Runs Wkts E/R Wds NBs
Herbert Dorning 5.0 0 53 1 10.60 1 2
Arnie Sidebottom 5.0 0 27 1 5.40 0 3
Claude Buckenham 4.0 0 32 2 8.00 0 0
Ken Hough 5.0 1 10 0 2.00 0 1
Walter Robins 5.0 1 27 1 5.40 0 1
Chuni Goswami 1.0 0 14 0 14.00 0 0
EXTRAS Wides: 1 No Balls: 7 Leg Byes: 3 Byes: 0
Total: 166/5 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 6.64 Extras: 11
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TOO LATE CC Partnerships
Batsmen Runs (Balls)
Frase'Gurk Greenidge þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 77 (54)
Sathasivam Greenidge þþþ 8 (13)
R Dravid Greenidge þ 2 (11)
R Dravid J Miandad þþþþþþþþþþþþþþþ 36 (53)
C Cairns J Miandad þþþþþþþ 16 (6)
C Cairns A Symonds þþþþþþþþþþþ 27 (13)
Fall of Wickets 77/1 85/2 87/3 123/4 139/5
Total: 166/5 Overs: 25.0 Run Rate: 6.64 Extras: 11
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FOOTBALLERS CLUB 180/6 25.0 overs
TOO LATE CC 166/5 25.0 overs
Footballers Club won by 14 runs
Man of the match: CB FryThis time I did get scoring rates above 8 an over, and more importantly teams were losing a fair number of wickets in keeping with the nature of the format which was something of a relief. So, I suppose these ratings are still passable if you want the bare minimum of realisticity but I would still call it unsatisfactory by my standards And just FYI, I did try rating players by my ODI manual (batters 42-66, bowlers 24-36) and also went to some extremes such as rating bowlers in single digits which only gave me results where some batting teams went through losing between 0-3 wickets or scored at barely 4.5-5 an over on most occasions, something you absolutely do not want in 25-over contests.
Personally, I wouldn't touch anything that is less than 40 overs via cricksim with a bargepole and I would recommend finding a simulator that wasn't made way back in 2001 when T20 was still 2 years from conception. But since you asked, I gave it a shot.
I can already say the problem here: PCCS don't work well, and no other options really exist from what I can tell
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Panel of Selectors
Definitely!
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County Cricketer
- Joined
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In my engine, the scoring probabilities vary from format to format between T20, List A and First Class, based on the same player rating.
This sim had a few bugs (incorrect max over limit for each team) but it gives a good idea of what to expect with T20 scoring at least.
I should say as well that there's limited randomness and magic numbers involved. I think people should get what they pay for in terms of how they see the player ratings.
This sim had a few bugs (incorrect max over limit for each team) but it gives a good idea of what to expect with T20 scoring at least.
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I should say as well that there's limited randomness and magic numbers involved. I think people should get what they pay for in terms of how they see the player ratings.
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- Jun 20, 2013
I rate Manish's Python based sim very high... For me it is best T20 sim till now...
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