DRS no longer mandatory

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

See, I am not opposing DRS. I am opposing thinking of some people which cannot be changed though! They say decision making will be better when using DRS but what about some stupid rules to follow? Like you have to follow a rule to give a batsman out and not by judging whether he is really out or not!

Umpires do make mistake but they are rarity and they are bound to happen, may be twice a series. Leaving the 2008 series where the outcome of the series would have been different if India would have won the SCG game.

And when you know a country is opposing then instead of crying for not using try and improve umpires standards.

 

[stefan]

Sure. Its the prerogative of the host nation to decide if it wants to use DRS. Sure they can consult with the touring country, but the ultimate authority rests with the hosts. So basically, what people are saying is that Cricket Australia doesnt have the balls to say to the BCCI that "WE ARE GOING TO PLAY WITH DRS"? Fried chicken cowards these blokes at the CA are!!!

Its not the hosts decision. The hosts and tourists needs to agree before it can be used.

I wonder what DRS supporters feel about walking. Technology and umpires come into play since players are dishonest in many cases.

Its not cheating imho. Its leave the umpire to do his job. Why should the batsman walk, he doesn't get recalled when the umpire gives him when he isn't out...

 

[teamindia]

Its not cheating imho. Its leave the umpire to do his job. Why should the batsman walk, he doesn't get recalled when the umpire gives him when he isn't out...

Ok it is lying If batsman were ethical then I umpires would be more inclined to listen to batsmen.

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

Exactly, the issue is not the batsman should walk or stay, it is increase umpiring standards! What next? In 10 years if technology is so sure and precise will you all guys say fearsome tweak off Umpires?

Let this game of cricket be standard. Technology should be used to show it to tv watches and let some technology be used for game like Hotspot. But I am against the hawk eye techno. It is not at all bug free

 

[Themer]

it is increase umpiring standards!

Umpires with technology helping them got about 5% more decisions correct than they did without it.

To help the umpire we should give them as much help as possible rather than leaving them looking like idiots when they're proven wrong later.

 

[ods]

After what happened at Sydney the last time these two teams met, it surprises me how the Australian players have the nerve to ask for the DRS. Even the third umpire with slow motion replays screwed India over, with bumped catches taken and even Andrew Symonds being run out multiple times and the umpire not asking for the third umpire. It cost India the series last time, and all that goes into the record books is a win or a loss. I hope there are many more decisions that go against the Aussies that costs them the series.

Technology is and never was perfect, India has been at the receiving end with and without the DRS. Just look at what happened to Rahul Dravid last series in England. The DRS is just too inconsistent when it comes to LBWs.

I am sure just because of these comments by Cowan for DRS, the umpires will try and even it out when India comes to bat. The Aussies have always had poor sportsmanship, but in previous years would win games because they had a strong team. Now all they can do is cry.

 

[SaiSrini]

Its not the hosts decision. The hosts and tourists needs to agree before it can be used.

Its not cheating imho. Its leave the umpire to do his job. Why should the batsman walk, he doesn't get recalled when the umpire gives him when he isn't out...

Even if that is the case, it will lead to a deadlock between CA and BCCI regarding the use of DRS (or is CA also not in favor of DRS). So still CA is caving in to BCCI power. Shouldn't the blame be put on CA too?

 

[Themer]

So still CA is caving in to BCCI power. Shouldn't the blame be put on CA too?

How are CA "caving in" if they want to go ahead with it but the BCCI veto it? They'd be caving in if it was their decision and decided not to because the BCCI wanted didn't want. That isn't the case here.

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

Actually BCCI should never win, if ICC's decision is to implement then ask the host nation and touring nation. If anyone says yes we want it will be 2-1. With ICC and nation agreeing on one side.

It is not tweaking BCCI's problem if ICC and other countries board do not have balls to go against them

 

[teamindia]

How are CA "caving in" if they want to go ahead with it but the BCCI veto it? They'd be caving in if it was their decision and decided not to because the BCCI wanted didn't want. That isn't the case here.

Well you do understand that the rule where one board can veto was created by ICC. CA is part of ICC and they did cave in to BCCI's demand. So yes every single board is at fault.

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Umpires with technology helping them got about 5% more decisions correct than they did without it.

To help the umpire we should give them as much help as possible rather than leaving them looking like idiots when they're proven wrong later.

As already said we can elminate close to 90% need for Hotspot if players were honest. So let us crack down on dishonest players who fail to walk.

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

Erasmus let off Siddle to a plumb lbw appeal from Ishant in the last half hour before stumps. Maybe he did it to make amends for his two errors against Hussey and Cowan and appease the OZ crowd of 70000 in the stadium. But it goes both ways because when India bat there will be some horrible decisions against them also. But then it is India who is against DRS and not other teams. So Indians should not complain of any horrible decisions against them later on is what is more important now.

 

[SaiSrini]

How are CA "caving in" if they want to go ahead with it but the BCCI veto it? They'd be caving in if it was their decision and decided not to because the BCCI wanted didn't want. That isn't the case here.

Its not a veto. Its just that BCCI does not agree to its use. And if that happens, CA have two options - convince BCCI to the usage of DRS, or cancel the series and put the blame on BCCI for the cancellation and claim damages. CA can stand its ground. From what I see, only one country is openly refusing the adoption of DRS and its India. I dont hear other nations talking about it.

IMO, the money power of BCCI is being given too much importance. I would blame the greedy guys instead of blaming the guy who incites them with greed.

 

[Themer]

Its not a veto

It is a veto. If India refuse then it can't be used meanwhile the matches do still have to go ahead in line with the Future Tours Programme.

So let us crack down on dishonest players who fail to walk.

Bollocks. You can't feel every edge in the same way its impossible to know if you've caught one that was low to the ground.

 

[sifter132]

OK so perhaps I'm a little crazy for dredging this thread, but I think perhaps any relevant comments should come over to this thread for further discussion.

I don't mind the Indian stance in principle (don't agree with it, but I sympathise with it), but it sucks that while every other board disagrees with them, BCCI still gets their way. One team shouldn't be able to control world cricket, just like one country shouldn't run the United Nations.

Also funny that today Indian fans are trotting out the 'what goes around comes around' type argument for umpires implying they'll get their share of bad calls in the near future, yet that's hard for Aussie fans to swallow when Indians weren't willing to see what Steve Bucknor was going to bring around in 2008 after the SCG Test - he was stood down straight away, under pressure from BCCI.

BCCI is at least appearing to want to do the best thing for cricket by making DRS as accurate as possibly before using it, but they are really digging a hate-hole for themselves. ie. most Aussie fans aren't angry at the umpires this morning, they are angry at BCCI for not supporting DRS. That hatred of the board, unfortunately blows back on Indian players and fans, and before you know it there are big divides in cricket's fanbase over what is essentially a political issue.

And I'm just wondering have there been any particularly important/noteworthy bad calls that have been made since DRS has been available but in series that don't use it? ie. what's the worst call that's happened in an Indian series recently? I'm just wondering whether this might be the first series where some series changing calls could be made.

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

Yes this is the first series where this big bad call has been made. Rahul Dravid was not out in few occasions back in England even when DRS was there, where it clearly showed the flaw.

Australians were crying over Philph Hughes dismissal in Sri Lankan series few months back and that time DRS was again in big question. Now just because its against them they support DRS more then any one?