England "Challenge"

[Griffo]

Im looking to start a proper campaign with England in ICC 2006 and I was hoping to get opinions and details on these players and anyone else you might like to add and any in the current english structure that I may have missed. I would like to know about International experiences and eventually chop this list down to 20-30 players

Alastair Cook
Alexander Loudon
Andrew Flintoff
Andrew Strauss
Ashley Giles
Christopher Read
Christopher Tremlett
Ed Joyce
Gareth Batty
Geraint Jones
Graham Onions
Ian Bell
Ian Blackwell
James Anderson
James Benning
James Foster
James Hildreth
James Troughton
Jamie Dalrymple
Jamie Troughton
Jonathan Lewis
Kabir Ali
Kevin Pietersen
Liam Plunkett
Mal Loye
Marcus Trescothick
Matthew Hoggard
Matthew Prior
Michael Carberry
Michael Munday
Michael Vaughan
Michael Yardy
Monty Panesar
Owais Shah
Paul Collingwood
Paul Nixon
Ravinder Bopara
Robert Key
Robert Kirtley
Sajid Mahmood
Scott Newman
Simon Jones
Stephen Harmison
Stephen Moore
Steven Davies
Stuart Broad
Vikram Solanki
Will Jefferson

 

[Ireland_Rule]

I won't bother commenting on the obvious ones;

Alastair Cook - Good opening batsman, good enough for Test and ODI
Alexander Loudon - All-rounder, off spinner who can bowl a googly, maybe an ODI candidate
Andrew Flintoff
Andrew Strauss
Ashley Giles
Christopher Read - Decent wicket keeper, should be number 1 for tests
Christopher Tremlett - Again decent fast bowler but lacks international experience
Ed Joyce - Needs more experience at international level
Gareth Batty - Off spinner who is a decent county player but hasnt proved himself at international level
Geraint Jones
Graham Onions - Young seamer from Durham, maybe worth a punt in the ODI squad
Ian Bell
Ian Blackwell - Not good enough for ODI's IMO but he can bat and bowl left arm spin
James Anderson
James Benning - Aggressive young opener from Surrey, possibly worth an opening sport in ODI's
James Foster - Young wicket keeper at Essex, pishing for ODI keeper's place
James Hildreth - All-rounder from Somerset, good one day player but not England quality yet
James Troughton - Warwickshire player who has had his chances for England at ODI level but hasnt proven himself
Jamie Dalrymple
Jonathan Lewis
Kabir Ali - Again, played many times for England but hasnt really proven himself as a capable bowler
Kevin Pietersen
Liam Plunkett
Mal Loye - Aggressive opening batsman, maybe should play in ODIs
Marcus Trescothick
Matthew Hoggard
Matthew Prior - Wicket keeper who is a good batsman, very aggressive at the top of the order
Michael Carberry - Opening batsman who has played for many counties, not england class yet
Michael Munday - Young spinner, in a few years maybe
Michael Vaughan
Michael Yardy - All-rounder who has yet to prove himself at international level
Monty Panesar
Owais Shah - Batsman at the top of the order (around 3-4) could possibly open in ODIS as he is aggressive
Paul Collingwood
Paul Nixon
Ravinder Bopara
Robert Key - Opening batsman who is quite fat, hasnt proven himself at england level
Robert Kirtley - seamer who has had trouble with his action in recent years, getting older now
Sajid Mahmood
Scott Newman - Opening young batsman at Surrey, slow scorer but a decent up-and-coming batsman
Simon Jones
Stephen Harmison
Stephen Moore - South african born batsman who has impressed in recent years
Steven Davies - Young wicketkeeper at worcester, possibly could reach ODI squad
Stuart Broad - Young, tall seamer, could really spearhead England's attack in years to come
Vikram Solanki - Opening batsman who similar to Kabir Ali has played for England quite a few times but hasnt cemented a spot
Will Jefferson - Opening batsman at Essex, hasnt proven himself to be an England candidate yet.

Hope it helps

 

[thesweepmaster]

England First XI for Tests:
Andrew Strauss
Michael Vaughan
Ian Bell
Jim Troughton
Kevin Pietersen
Andrew Flintoff
Geraint Jones
Stephen Harmison
Monty Panesar
James Anderson

England first XI for One Dayers:
Marcus Trescothick
Andrew Strauss
Kevin Pietersen
Michael Vaughan
Ian Bell
Andrew Flintoff
Geraint Jones
Kabir Ali
Matthew Hoggard
James Anderson
Monty Panesar

Those would be my teams

 

[Griffo]

Cut from 47 to 23. Opinions and Teams please

Alastair Cook
Andrew Flintoff
Andrew Strauss
Christopher Read
Christopher Tremlett
Ed Joyce
Ian Bell
James Anderson
Jamie Dalrymple
Jonathan Lewis
Kabir Ali
Kevin Pietersen
Matthew Hoggard
Matthew Prior
Michael Vaughan
Monty Panesar
Owais Shah
Paul Collingwood
Paul Nixon
Sajid Mahmood
Simon Jones
Stephen Harmison
Stuart Broad

 

[jacobfelix]

My brother is playing as Notts and he was saying that C.Read is very disappointing with the Bat....

So he played Warren and this guy started dropping crucial catches

 

[Griffo]

read had the highest average with the bat for me and top scored at 91

 

[Ireland_Rule]

Test Starting XI:
Strauss/Cook
Vaughan (c)
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff
Read +
Hoggard
Harmison
Panesar
S.Jones

ODI Starting XI:
Prior +
Cook
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Vaughan
Flintoff
Anderson
Panesar
Harmison
Hoggard

 

[offdriven4]

Robert Key's an odd one,he's got test match double hundred,but an average of just over 30

Test XI

Andrew Strauss(c)
Marcus Trescothick(i know he's not on your list,but thats a fatal omission)
Alistair Cook
Ian Bell
Kevin Pietersen
Andrew Flintoff
Matthew Prior
Matthew Hoggard
Simon Jones
Stephen Harmison
Monty Panesar

 

[lancashire666]

Alastair Cook - great test player, i played him in the middle order for a few years then moved him to opener. very slow for one days
Andrew Flintoff - inconsistant bowling - normally picks up a couple of wickets but can be very expensive one test and a deamon in the next, more consistant with the bat
Andrew Strauss - great opener and future captain when vaughan gets old, useful keeper
Christopher Read - prob the best english keeper, but thats not saying much.
Christopher Tremlett - never really cut the mustard for me for england, but very good county player
Ed Joyce - never used at international level
Ian Bell - hes a fine wine, gets better with age! always seemed to make a big partnership when coming in at 4 with cook still there
James Anderson - extreamly good bowler after a couple of years tech training - becomes a world beater, got over 300 test wickets for me at around 26
Jamie Dalrymple - good one day player as can take wickets,
Jonathan Lewis - was too many players ahead of him to get a chance in my england team - bit like real life really lol
Kabir Ali - never played him
Kevin Pietersen - obviously vital player in test and one day games - around 13000 test runs for me
Matthew Hoggard - over 500 test wickets (think he finished with 504)! he could swing a brick! if its overcast - GET HIM ON, seriously even if its a good batting wicket can bowl teams out
Matthew Prior - wasnt international batting class for me - great hand
Michael Vaughan - fanmtastic player and should easyly make both test and one day teams
Monty Panesar - him or munday! its a difficult one, he can be unplayable, but seriously cannot bat
Owais Shah - never played him
Paul Collingwood - i didnt really play him in test matches that many time, prob 15 test, but was great in one day games
Paul Nixon - never played him
Sajid Mahmood - prob not international class but great county player, very expensive, useful batting at 10
Simon Jones - he didnt really get that many games as i loved anderson but always seemed pretty useful, wish id played him more
Stephen Harmison - can destroy top orders in only a couple of overs
Stuart Broad - i didnt give him a chance till he was about 28 but since i have hes never looked back and is now my opening bowler at 31 with almost 200 test wickets at about 20. wich id puthim in earlyer
MICHEEL MUNDAY - as youve prob read in this forum many times this guy is a legand! wait till hes about 25 and he will be your top wickettaker EVERY year at below 20 - seriously amazing player - and pretty good with the bat, 2 test 100's for me so far
Marcus Trescothick - get him in there! great batsman, extreamly good keeper, i used him instead of the very poor batting skills of the reast of the english keepers

Test side

Andrew Strauss
Marcus Trescothick (Keeper)
Michael Vaughan (C)
Kevin Pietersen
Alistair Cook
Ian Bell
Andrew Flintoff
Matthew Hoggard
James Anderson
Stephen Harmison
Monty Panesar/Michael Munday

One day side

Andrew Strauss
Marcus Trescothick (Keeper)
Michael Vaughan (C)
Kevin Pietersen
Andrew Flintoff
Ian Bell
Paul Collingwood
Jamie Dalrymple
Michael Munday
Matthew Hoggard
James Anderson

 

[iloveireland]

Test Starting XI:
Strauss/Cook
Vaughan (c)
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff
Read +
Hoggard
Harmison
Panesar
S.Jones

ODI Starting XI:
Prior +
Cook
Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Vaughan
Flintoff
Anderson
Panesar
Harmison
Hoggard

I drop Strauss because he goes crap very soon

 

[Sehwag4Captain]

o

Alastair Cook opener
Alexander Loudon dropped
Andrew Flintoff opener/opening bowler
Andrew Strauss dropped
Ashley Giles dropped
Christopher Read in team (backup)
Christopher Tremlett not selected
Ed Joyce opener
Gareth Batty dropped
Geraint Jones dropped and hung
Graham Onions picked
Ian Bell picked
Ian Blackwell wudn't touch him with a barge pole
James Anderson back up
James Benning definetly selected
James Foster 1st choice keeper
James Hildreth reserve
James Troughton picked
Jamie Dalrymple picked ( sub spinner)
Jamie Troughton not picked
Jonathan Lewis only effective on swinging pitches
Kabir Ali nope
Kevin Pietersen yes but selfish non team player
Liam Plunkett good prospects
Mal Loye reserve
Marcus Trescothick picked opener
Matthew Hoggard not picked
Matthew Prior "" ""
Michael Carberry "" ""
Michael Munday picked
Michael Vaughan middle order (C)
Michael Yardy reserve spinner
Monty Panesar no unless pitch turning not good fielder or batsman
Owais Shah picked midlle order
Paul Collingwood picked only because of fielding
Paul Nixon reserve Hand with bat too old
Ravinder Bopara certainty
Robert Key no
Robert Kirtley no
Sajid Mahmood nope
Scott Newman nope
Simon Jones yes
Stephen Harmison yes
Stephen Moore no
Steven Davies no
Stuart Broad opening bowler
Vikram Solanki sub
Will Jefferson bargepole no

 

[iloveireland]

There isa regeneration called R Gould who had awesome stats for me. He averaged 45 bat and 29 bowl in Test Matches and 65 bat and 30 bowl. That was on normal of course. Giles is good when you bowl him with panesar.