England in Australia

[puddleduck]

I was like yourself MUFC, I've been sticking up for Fletcher for a while, he has at the very least earned my faith over the years. However some of the decisions he has made recently have been in my eyes completely wrong, and whilst I will give him the chance to make me eat a very much wanted piece of humble pie, If he is wrong I will also expect him to take the flak. There will come a time when every coach reaches his sell-by date, especially in cricket, and I think Fletcher may well be coming to his. To be honest I think the World Cup is as far as he'll go, especially if we fail to retain the Ashes and have an appaling World Cup. Both of which seem fairly likely.

 

[aussie1st]

England aren't the only one with a coach making questionable calls. We too have had our problems especially in the ODI game where Katich was continuing opening with his slow SR when Jaques was at his absolute peak and even knocked off a 70 on debut.

 

[puddleduck]

Yeah but your coach is definately leaving, and you've won your last 11 out of 12 tests as well as the Champions Trophy! We've won only one series in 4, and won only around 5 Odis in about 20 odd.

 

[Sureshot]

Well you can blame Mike Atherton for that.

Ironically he has one of the best records for starts to and ODI career. Somethign like 3rd best in history. Not many would think that of someone like Athers.

Marcus Trescothick leaving means I can put Paul Collingwood into my ideal starting eleven...

1. Andrew Strauss
2. Alastair Cook
3. Paul Collingwood
4. Ian Bell
5. Kevin Pietersen
6. Andrew Flintoff (captain)
7. Geraint Jones (wicket keeper)
8. James Anderson
9. Steve Harmison
10. Monty Panesar
11. Matthew Hoggard

Colly at 3? Anderson at 8?

Colly should be at number 4 with Bell at 3 (Which is his real position) Anderson is the worst batsman on that list.

From those bottom 4:

Panesar
Hoggy
Harmy
Anderson

Are you serious? The guy took us from the doldrems to beating the best side in the world yet you still complain.

To be fair to Matt he did say recent. Which is true.

Giles didn't play for a year yet still got in the squad. Not giving Prior more chances (not all may be convinced by him but you have to give the most succesful English Keeper in the current domestic game a run.)

Since the Ashes he has made some silly decisions. Overall Fletcher has been very good, no ones denying that. But he is making silly decisions.

 

[aussie1st]

Yeah but your coach is definately leaving, and you've won your last 11 out of 12 tests as well as the Champions Trophy! We've won only one series in 4, and won only around 5 Odis in about 20 odd.

Our coach is leaving too, leaving the transition stage to a new coach. I can understand why though, hes won everything he needs to now just needs to get the Ashes back and retain the WC and hes done.

 

[puddleduck]

Our coach is leaving too, leaving the transition stage to a new coach. I can understand why though, hes won everything he needs to now just needs to get the Ashes back and retain the WC and hes done.

I know.. that's what I said

 

[aussie1st]

I know.. that's what I said

Lol sorry my bad, I somehow missed the "y" in your so took it as our :o
Well then changing my answer then, definitely will be good getting a new face in the coaching box. Someone needs to give Ponting some pro active captaincy lessons and we could use other ideas rather than just a man working behind his computer.

 

[Simbazz]

Computer technology is great for certain areas of Cricket, look at Troy Cooley, he has brought up many English bowler from International standard to World Class, at swing seam and just plain bowling

 

[BigCrickNan]

you talk about troy cooley and he left and its sort of affected us in our bowling. the way harmison is bowling i think he would be a lot more disciplined in terms of accuracy if we still had troy.

 

[aussie1st]

Agreed it's good its done a lot of good and I'm sure we will continue with it but during the transition stage I feel we need to focus more on bowling/batting/fielding coaches which was done by during this era as you don't have much more to teach guys like Warne/McGrath but I do remember reading that guys like Gillespie, Lee and Kasper could have used a bowling coach to guide them through their bad trot along with a fielding coach to drill back in the basics.
From what I've heard they have at least brought in a baseball coach for the fielding so thats a start.

 

[puddleduck]

Not to mention the sudden emergence from his shell of Johnson and Tait. Not sure how much Cooley has had to do with them yet, but they do seem to have improved a fair amount since he made the switch.

 

[Simbazz]

you talk about troy cooley and he left and its sort of affected us in our bowling. the way harmison is bowling i think he would be a lot more disciplined in terms of accuracy if we still had troy.

Troy is an excellent coach of bowling! And yeah, Harmys bowling in particular has been affected, but to give the current bowling coaches credit, they have go Anderson back bowling well, credit to the Lancashire coaches of course

 

[aussie1st]

Not to mention the sudden emergence from his shell of Johnson and Tait. Not sure how much Cooley has had to do with them yet, but they do seem to have improved a fair amount since he made the switch.

Tait was always there abouts, don't think Cooley would have changed to much with him. Johnson definitely has improved a lot since Cooley arrived along with Watson.

 

[puddleduck]

Ah yes I meant Watson instead of Tait, not sure why I made the mistake to be honest. My brains obviously shutting down after years of being mistreated, which is fair enough I suppose.

 

[aussie1st]

From what I heard from Damien Fleming during the Champions trophy Watson has now learnt to hit the deck more instead of trying to swing it. Early in the year I did read however that Watson could now swing the ball so bit confused by what exactly Watson can do but I suspect he will be hitting the deck as he will be 2nd change.