England in Australia

That's it, I'll get behind them as I've always said I would, but if we lose the Ashes, I'd join the bandwagon asking for Fletchers removal. I won't even say to give him the World Cup as he has never had a clue regarding the shorter format.

The most worrying part of all this, is that the supposed positive steps taken regarding Panesar and Read in the first place, were essentially forced upon him. Injuries to Giles, and the fact that Jones wasn't even selected for the second half of the Pakistan series, means that he himself basically hasn't done anything particularly ground-breaking since the Ashes. He was forced to play Panesar and Read, and after both have had successful times of it, more successful than their counterparts, when given the choice, he has immediately reverted to his old favourites.

As I seem to be saying all too often in this thread, I await a slice of humble pie, and would eat it more than willingly, but it is yet another decision in the last few months from Fletcher that is almost impossible to understand. He is entering this series with a defensive mindset, one that says we must look to contain the Aussies. It has never worked for anyone, attacking them is the only way to get anything, and I fear the series is now already lost :(

To continue, with the loss of such a big influence on the last series in SiJo, surely the sensible option would have been to pick a spinner that could possibly have proved far more dangerous than the alternative, instead he has gone with the same option that went at over 3 runs an over last time and averaged close to 60 with the ball (I believe Ponting went for less picking up Vaughan! )

My major gripe with all of this, is that it reaks of "Fletchers Favourites". That by ousting and outperforming your counterpart you do not necessarily keep your place. I feel he has it completely the wrong way round. If Jones and Giles fail, you have to thrust in a keeper who has not had a warmup game, and a spinner who is inexperienced.

If he had started with Panesar and Read, and it had gone badly in the first two tests, he could have had the option of turning to experience. This way around, I fear he will trot out the same line throughout the series of, "they are experienced players, and will come good."

Shame on you Fletcher, you just lost one of your most dedicated supporters :(
 
Is England prepared for Gilchrist's top secret plan against around-the-wicket attacks?

"Batting right-handed? It's radical, I know, but I've been working on it."
 
angryangy said:
Is England prepared for Gilchrist's top secret plan against around-the-wicket attacks?

"Batting right-handed? It's radical, I know, but I've been working on it."

Haha, gotta laugh. Let's be honest, is he likely to be any better Right-handed to over the wicket then he is left-handed to around the wicket?

To be honest I think he will have a good series. The ball won't reverse as much, and it was that more than anything that was causing him the most problems. I think if he starts the series well, England will struggle throughout against him.
 
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Cricket_god said:
I meant with his ability his performance was good taking his batting and bowling in to consideration he did his job of resting the fast bowlers with out going for 4 an over.


Monty can do the same except take wickets at the same time. Monty is as economical as Gilo if not more so.
 
Sureshot said:
Monty can do the same except take wickets at the same time. Monty is as economical as Gilo if not more so.

More so ;) It's a bit of a myth that Giles is the "tighter" bowler.
 
puddleduck said:
Haha, gotta laugh. Let's be honest, is he likely to be any better Right-handed to over the wicket then he is left-handed to around the wicket?

To be honest I think he will have a good series. The ball won't reverse as much, and it was that more than anything that was causing him the most problems. I think if he starts the series well, England will struggle throughout against him.
This year, although we've seen a slump in form, we've also seen a Gilchrist who can control his throttle better. I think as much as any strategy, this could be a key weapon, as the fear and anticipation that he is just about to unleash could cause strange decisions to be made in the field. If he is prepared to be patient for a long time, he might make them false start.
 
Cricket_god said:
Giles was succesfull in last year ashes beacause of the english fast bowlers
i also think monty is a type of bowler who cannot run through a side.If he plays also he will do a job similar to giles what i understand of england sides mentality .so its better if giles plays
Giles averaged nearly 60 last ashes. Hardly successful.

stevie said:
I don't see why we should be 'carted' in this series. I think this series is going to be alot closer than some people think.
I don't. I'm predicting 4-0 to the Aussies.
 
So many Aussies are predicting things like 4-0, yet we've won tests before with a far worse side, against far better Aussie sides. Even if you thump us we normally win the dead rubber. Still I think 3-1 to the Aussies, maybe 2-1 if we play Monty. 2-2 had we played Read ;)
 
cricketmad09 said:
I don't. I'm predicting 4-0 to the Aussies.

Nice to see another typical arrogant Australian around. It's funny how you think that, when much better Australian sides have failed to whitewash much worse England sides in the past. Would be nice if you had some substance to that post as well. :rolleyes:
 
On paper and player to player wise, The Auzzies should crush us. I dont rule us drawing or even somehow winning the series out. but we would need Flintoff, Strauss, Harmisson, Monty and either Bell/Cook/Collingwood to have fantastic series, which I just can't see happening.
 
In cricket you cannot say anything but only because of home advantage as with england last year i have to go 2-1 with the australians .it would be great if they play a series in neutral venue then you can tell who the better side is.
 
How does a neutral venue benefit? They play on the sub continent and Warne would run right through the English. South Africa is more similar to Australian conditions. New Zealand more similar to English conditions. To tell which team is better is to see how they perform against many different sides under many different conditions, over a period of time.

My prediction is Australia 3-1.
 
One of the main issues of World Wide Cricket is teams/players ability to compete o foreign soil as well, Neutral ground would destroy some good series imo. LAst years Ashes wouldn't have been so good if the ball didn't swing early in English conditions and Matches were just run a thons.
 

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