ICC News: Restructuring the ICC, BCCI Influence & more

[Cricket_god]

This thread has been a really good read, some pro BCCI (also ECB/CA) comments but mostly balances and factual posts. The three have come together to form a monopoly on a sport that, in all honesty, isn't achieving the levels that others have reached in the 21st century. The global tournament that cricket offers has less impact and media attention outside of Asia then almost any global sporting event I can think of. The dominant nation in the sport both politically and financially is one of the bottom 3 teams in the sports premier format.

Outside of boxing, I can't think of another major sport which is run with so much corruption and disregard for the law then cricket in the 21st century.

Off course It will have less impact if you take the places a game is most popular in.Cricket is played by a handful of nations and In reality except football that,s a problem for every other team sport. But the highlight of the world cup 2015 were Nz cricket fans.Google Had Noted that after Sa Defeat In Semi Final The Most Popular Search In Sa was How to Play Cricket.So not everything is Doom and Gloom.

Corruption is there where money is and will always be there like Fifa.Sports Premier Format in 21 st Century Its Not tests anymore for a few decades Now,People have to take off their Glasses .

 

[cricket_icon]

Off course It will have less impact if you take the places a game is most popular in.Cricket is played by a handful of nations and In reality except football that,s a problem for every other team sport. But the highlight of the world cup 2015 were Nz cricket fans.Google Had Noted that after Sa Defeat In Semi Final The Most Popular Search In Sa was How to Play Cricket.So not everything is Doom and Gloom.

Corruption is there where money is and will always be there like Fifa.Sports Premier Format in 21 st Century Its Not tests anymore for a few decades Now,People have to take off their Glasses .

Hockey has more international participants and the NFL regularly pulls in an audience of tens of millions. So no, it's not the same for all team sports.

And yes there's corruption elsewhere but that isn't a response to my critique. To admit cricket is almost as corrupt as boxing means the fans and the administrators have to do something to fix it.

 

[abhi_jacko]

Outside of boxing, I can't think of another major sport which is run with so much corruption and disregard for the law then cricket in the 21st century.

Aren't FIFA and NFL rife with corruption, scandals and controversies ? Especially FIFA - ranging from mismanagement at the last World Cup to misappropriation of funds and match fixing (Italian football)

I know I am going to sound like I am in bed with the ICC again , but I actually see things getting better in some respects over the last few years: Match fixing is being acknowledged and tackled, Players are feeling a lot more comfortable about reporting approaches from bookies, Chucking rules have gotten stricter

There is a shytload of work still to be done and the system is far from efficient, but I don't see it as bad as some people do

 

[War]

^^

Ha right well while some people strangely feel things are getting better, we now have this latest bombshell that I always feared could destroy to the world game because of the ICC poor structure

ICC investigates plans for alternate cricket structure | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[War]

point's i trying to regard there is the ACB has used its clout to keep things like bookie contactng players under the carpet without taking full actions with icc and disclosing to public not something players of other countries had or should have had. Basically just one of the points to say other boards have behaved equally badly if not worse than bcci.

My memory of this scandal all those years ago is a bit fuzzy, but I believe you are talking about that situation in the 1990s where AUS players like M Waugh Warne and world players like Lara, Alec Stewart etc (can't remember other names) were mentioned by some bookie for taking money - just before Cronje/Azharruddin/Saleem Malik/Gibbs/Jadeja got various lengthy bans for pleading guilty?

I don't recall ACB or any country covering up for any player in this case.

since you said custodians of the game i thought it was about protecting the game rules and thought you were implying BCCI was the one toying with game rules. if it was about well being of the cricket boards then it is certainly laughable, they were are as greedy as bcci or any other board. if we go by history of cricket board of every nation noneo f them has a good history in terms of money handling everyone is a greedy shit manipulating the sports in their country whether its pcb, slc wicb or ecb or bcci or zim, ECB of the old may be the exception i guess..but i dont have much data over that but i guess would be safe to assume they did a lot for the love of the game in the starting days without which other nations wouldn't have thrived with the sport.

Nah you can't make a comparison with a board trying to change rules and equate that with perceived board corruption - especially in cricket case. The ICC have bad administrators, that in their own twisted way when they introduce power play confusion, talk about reducing 50 overs, forms of DRS are trying to improve the game.

And no outside of the packer episode which exposed all of world crickets players that were getting payed like amateurs and needed to payed like professionals, I never come across any example of board vs player money handling issues with AUS/ENG/SA since 1980. Its always the other nations who are traditional weak financial boards who tend to have all these players vs board issues, with Windies and Sri Lanka being the most prominent.

 

[War]

Bangladesh, Pakistan and WI tussle for Champions Trophy spots | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

Right so this C-Trophy tournament that has been brought back by the ICC because their foolish brains could not implement the test championship and also because the broadcasters bullied them - they are only qualifying 8 of the major 9 nations automatically. How is that even logical?

 

[Satan666]

@War

Been doing some nosing around and I have a hunch as to why the BCCI is clearly targeting SP Narine. I am sure you have heard of the name Subhash Chandra, one of his companies, Zee network has recently acquired the services of the Kolkata Knight Riders owner Shah Rukh Khan to host one of their primetime live shows.

Subhash Chandra as we all know has recently been linked to the possible financing of a separatist/rebel cricket league/administration/governing body and has been involved in the rebel ICL in '07. So what other way to send a message to Mr. Chandra than take out the KKR strike bowler. Sources are also indicating a possible breakaway of some of the IPL franchise to this 'new league'.

Personally I have maintained that Narine has always been a suspect bowler but he was protected by the BCCI all these years, and now he finds himself in the middle of a war, but to each his own you live by the sword you die by the sword.

To all naysayers come good, don't hunt what you cant eat.



@grkrama @Aalay @abhi_jacko

 

[IceAgeComing]

or perhaps its because he doesn't bowl properly

e: also; we have a thread for this - although that one has spent more time talking about the BCCI than suspect actions recently!

 

[Satan666]

or perhaps its because he doesn't bowl properly

e: also; we have a thread for this - although that one has spent more time talking about the BCCI than suspect actions recently!

Well I have always maintained that Narine has had a questionable action since the early days of the IPL!

Yeah I had initially drafted up the post on that thread but was concerned it may spawn discussions with more relevance to BCCI influence hence I posted it here.

 

[Aalay]

I still don't know why I was tagged in that post.

 

[abhi_jacko]

I am sure you have heard of the name Subhash Chandra, one of his companies, Zee network has recently acquired the services of the Kolkata Knight Riders owner Shah Rukh Khan to host one of their primetime live shows.

What show is this ? Haven't heard about it. I am genuinely curious

And I have a better theory. Narine, with his "remedial" action got under pressure after getting 2 wickets in 5 games and going for 7.5rpo, and ended up reverting back to his faulty action by instinct. And got called by the umpires. Sounds preposterous, but there is a 1% chance this could have happened

 

[grkrama]

I don't recall ACB or any country covering up for any player in this case.

How CA shielded Warne, Waugh in fixing scam - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

"Had the Australians running the game been honest back then in 1994-94, there would not have been any need of Justice Qayyum, Justice Bhandari and Justice Late Chandrachaud of India investigating into match and spot-fixing and the game may not have been as much plagued with the menace as we experience in every day of our life now."

Nah you can't make a comparison with a board trying to change rules and equate that with perceived board corruption - especially in cricket case.

im certainly not doing that

I never come across any example of board vs player money handling issues with AUS/ENG/SA since 1980.

does greedy always mean not paying players, ECB and CA guys are smarter[in a crooked way ] they wont get dragged into petty scrabbles over player money, intead cut off free to air tv make deals with the devil, what was that guy who landed from helicopter in the centre pitch of hallowed lords ground with a suitcase of money then got jailed, or barring press without cutting a deal with them CA etc..if that doesn't equate greediness for money i dont know may be as you say CA and ECB are saints ofcourse

 

[Satan666]

What show is this ? Haven't heard about it. I am genuinely curious

And I have a better theory. Narine, with his "remedial" action got under pressure after getting 2 wickets in 5 games and going for 7.5rpo, and ended up reverting back to his faulty action by instinct. And got called by the umpires. Sounds preposterous, but there is a 1% chance this could have happened

 

[abhi_jacko]

Ah ok, this one. This was a while ago when Happy New Year was releasing I think.

 

[Satan666]

Ah ok, this one. This was a while ago when Happy New Year was releasing I think.

Still showing on the weekends on zee network will get the exact name. Plus Narine was called in the champions league first, that was last year.