ICC News: Restructuring the ICC, BCCI Influence & more

[cricketlover172]

Hmmmm, Whats that suppose to mean?? Can you please elaborate this point a bit further???

Yes when you elaborate me, why weren't Shoaib and Asif banned for 2 years despite taking drugs ?

 

[Rehan_24]

Yes when you elaborate me, why weren't Shoaib and Asif banned for 2 years despite taking drugs ?

Hahahha.... Because it was written in Tendulkar's fate to bowled out of Shoaib Akhtar one more time, So thats why lol

Seriously Man, You know how to deviate from the raising issue.

 

[cricketlover172]

Hahahha.... Because it was written in Tendulkar's fate to bowled out of Shoaib Akhtar one more time, So thats why lol

Seriously Man, You know how to deviate from the raising issue.

So when did Akhtar dismiss Sachin ?

And seriously when PCB and Pakistan cricket is beyond joke, why exactly do you want to know about BCCI ?

 

[Rehan_24]

So when did Akhtar dismiss Sachin ?

And seriously when PCB and Pakistan cricket is beyond joke, why exactly do you want to know about BCCI ?

Hmmm atleast 8 to 10 times in both formats even in IPL.

Anyhow, I don't want to know anything about BCCI, I am just expressing my views in the current BCCI influence over the ICC decisions and that's the topic of this thread. As simple as that.

 

[War]

Pakistan news: Pakistan eyes legal action over ICC rule change | Pakistan Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo

Although the amendment is right. As been discussed already, the ICC cant & shouldn't suspend countries like PAK, SRI, BANG who world cricket knows their governments influences their cricket boards to do - unless the ICC revamps itself.

MY GOD is cricket in a mess right now.

 

[Rehan_24]

The amendment is right for sure

 

[War]

1. Agree about UDRS. However here BCCI is simply supporting their players .No Indian player apart from Sehwag likes UDRS. Once Sachin , Dravid retires BCCI will stop opposing.

And dont you see how ridiculous how that is?. That a single cricket board, has to power to block a innovation by the games GOVERNING BODY, just because a few of its senior players dont like it?.

I dont & the majority of the cricket world dont give a rats ass how Tendulkar & other senior Indian players feel about URDS. They dont own crickets, if the ICC wants to bring in an innovation every player has to fall in line whether they like it or not.

Right now for example in football FIFA are still contemplating bringing in technology. If do next year, NO TEAM or national league could say they dont want to use it. Thats how it should be, this is just ridiculous bullying for the BCCI.

2.Problem is Cricket has only 8 nations. Whereas Football has many. ICC can't ban any nation like FIFA because there are so less nations.

If the ICC was a strong governing body they certainly could Ban teams.

Lets use Pakistan for example & has i mentioned in the other post. If cricket had a strong policy like FIFA which stated government & politics must not mix, Pakistan corrupt politicians would have revamped its cricket board years ago since the days when Imran was playing domestic cricket. Thus all the madness that occurs in PAK cricket today would not have happened.

3. Once again SA quota problem can't be solved because of Reason 2.

Yes it could. Lets use Rugby for example. The International Rugby Union (IRB) has similar restriction with quotas, thus the SA Rugby Union just implements quota's on a domestic level. But they pick their national team - they have to pick on merit.

4.IPL is just like anyother T20 league. About 90 % of IPL revenue comes from India. So why would they have more than 4 players. However they do have foreign players so that it doesn't look like Ranji trophy which is watched by so less people.

Even if the IPL was funded 100% by India, the rule would not have made sense. As i mentioned before, many of the major football leagues in Europe are sponsored by local rich businessmen (Although in England most the clubs are owned by rich foreigners these days) & you dont see no stupid international player rule restriction in the playing XI. It just happens in the over 20-25 man squad which is quite fair.

All that restriction does is make the quality of T20 cricket (which is already a horrid water down version of cricket anyway) very poor due the amount of crap Indian local players that make up a average IPL team.

Secondly no, the IPL is not comparable to any of the other domestic T20 leagues in the world. All the rest of them are simple domestic leagues used with the aim of picking the best players for their respective national sides. The IPL has the article above clearly stated from the BCCI is being fronted as an international league.

Only from next season Australia will be trying to make its BigBash similar with the amount of teams. But as of yet the ACB have not made any suggestion of implementing and international player restriction.



Fact is this, that rule restriction was done to try & expose Indian players. But quite obviously in the 4 seasons of IPL that has not worked. Given some players are beyond crap, that wouldn't make your average Ranji/Irani trophy State team are getting chances in the IPL, just because of the dumb rule.

The Indian selectors have learnt that as well given that they are rightfully still picking players based on Ranji/Irani Trophy form over IPL.

All the IPL teams need to do when the auction arrives is buy a limited amount of foreign stars (since they have enough money to wastefully buy a plethora of foreign stars & play them handsomely all season & not play a game). Then buy the right amount of establish international & domestic Indian talent along with actual talent young Indian stars. Those young stars should earn the right to play in the IPL - not given a free ride into it.

If the ICC was very strong, it would never have accepted the BCCI suggestion of starting up the IPL with that rule restriction. Im quite sure the ICC would have turned it down. India just bullied that rule into existance & are trying to sneaky act as they have the best interest of the game, while their ownly concern is to make money.

The IPL is just as bad in its current format as if a rich Arabian oil tycoon came said he wanted to start a football league in Europe. Then he tempted all the world soccer stars like Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney, Villa, Drogba etc etc etc awya from their clubs by offering 100 times for their surfaces & they all go running of & thus football would be destroyed.

That is what the IPL is.

5. Most of the WI player have turned to basket ball in USA. If money was the problem , then why they had so good side from 1960-2000. Cricket has to compete with basket ball in WI. And for that Cricket has to offer very good salary.

1960-1996 you means, since by 2000 the WI was already struggling. But yes have you forgotten what happened when Packer (the 1970s version of IPL occured) all the great WI players left for two years & cricket was in turmoil.

Since that was the 1st time in history when cricketers where paid handsomely. Fast forward 30 years later with the IPL explotion & a broken ICC system - the money IPL was throwing @ players especially from the less financially strong boards of WI, SRI, NZ, PAK where always going to go to the IPL.

I mean look at England. I can't remember when was last time their national football team achieved something of note.Whereas in cricket, they are on verge of being no.1 test team. Yet Cricket is not the top sport there.

That a bit too plain a comparison.

Yes ENG have not won a major football tournament since 1966. But they have had a few good sides in the last 45 years that took part in major tournaments. But a mixture of bad luck & the many talented players not translating their wonderful club form to the international arena.

The ENG football teams was never has crap as some of the cricket teams England had in the late 80s - early/mid 1990s.

Football will always remain ENGs major sport because its easier to understand. The Rugby team won the 2003 Cup (Rugby's support base is just as big as cricket) & the nation didn't turn Rugby. So even if England become test best team or win another ODI/T20 World cup, that wont change the fact that football will always be # 1 sport in ENG & rightfully so.

Most of the problem cricket is facing because, it is not very popular sports in OZ and UK(developed nation with large economy). If Cricket becomes no.1 sports in these country, then ICC can easily cut down BCCI influence and become independent.[/QUOTE]

I already corrected your synopsis of cricket in UK above.

Cricket is already #1 in Windies. Id say their passion for the game is just as big as India even with the fact that a good portion of the modern youngsters have going to football & basketball. All they need a structural improvement with regards to having an academy (which the ICC should be aiding them with), in fine tuning young talent, since their domestic structure isn't doing that.

So improved popularity of the sport in order countries isn't needed to weaken the BCCIs influence. Cricket just needs ICC to act & become a proper governing body, so that they can have an administration ready to stand up & tell India executives to STFU & to get in line more often that not. Indian fans are cool & wonderful, its the corrupt government officials that run their cricket board that need eradicating.

 

[Rehan_24]

No player is bigger than the game itself. So things should be for the betterment of this wonderful sports rather than for certain individuals

 

[Ahmad94]

Couldn't agree more Rehan

 

[cricket_icon]

who here is actually in favour of a two tier system for ICC rankings? just curious because I think it would work wonders.

 

[Chewie]

It's a stupid idea.

 

[cricket_icon]

why do you think? don't you think a two tier system, in which teams that play well are promoted and teams that don't relegated is a way of not only making Test cricket more exciting but also more consequential?

 

[Chewie]

It gives the lower teams nothing to look towards. As it is we play Bangladesh enough, and we never play India/Australia/South Africa/England.

 

[cricket_icon]

no, it gives the lower teams something to strive for. a chance at the top table, at the big bucks and higher opposition. in this single tier format, bangladesh losing against all the top nations has now become an every day occurrence and does nothing to spice things up. plus, i think it was earlier on in this thread that i said associate nations could have a similar table, where the top team was given test status and the bottom test team was relegated from test cricket until the next international cycle. this would give teams which have made steady progress a real chance at shining in test cricket, as well as increasing the profile of the game.

 

[Chewie]

We don't want to just play matches against Bangladesh and West Indies all the time. That would be incredibly boring.