ICC News: Restructuring the ICC, BCCI Influence & more

[Rehan_24]

I don't have much to say in this long lasting thread but on a recent happening related to terrorizing Pakistani people in India should be the talk of the town that how badly Indian authorities have control over ICC. Check the history and you will know that how in-tolerant indian crowd has always been in their home matches. There haven't been sportsmanship at all virtually atleast what the World Cricket has been watching for years. As your team is about to lose, you are ready to fire the stairs and create chaos in the whole atmosphere. Take the example of 96 World cup and lot other scenarios, or take billions of examples of pin-drop silences, and this attitude shows the in-tolerant behavior.

I won't say that all Indians are extremists but atleast the good people in India should come out to protest against this extreme behavior by a certain group there rather than un-necessarily defending that your country is still peaceful for cricket. ICC has act straight and right after the threaten to Aleem Dar, They withdrew him. ICC is categorically having dual standards. I won't expect anything from BCCI in this Big 3 Company but atleast the Aussies and Englishmen should play their part to have a proper say in the dual standards policy.

If indian govt and majority of indian people think that what the extreme group is doing is bad, so then come out to support the Pakistani Commentators and community their.... and support the match series which your guyz promised in december instead of acting like "Oh Nothing has happened and blah blah".

What a shame for ICC, Fearing with a local small group in India and withdrawing one of the best umpires. Wasim Akram and Shoaib Akhter are leaving as well. Its time for shame and reality check with BCCI, ICC and Indian community in general. ICC re-structuring is the need of time. The decisions have to be on equality basis rather than favoring particular nations

 

[grkrama]

Here's the deal
We have tactical nuclear weapons to deal with Indian aggression: Pakistan



Shiv sena is a group of hooligans no doubt but as i stated in the other thread the worst they do is throw ink on our indian administrators for getting into talks with a neighbor who to put it nicely hasn't exactly been having peaceful relations with us.

Icc has withdrawn the pak umpires and explayers not bcci or shiv sena, they have always been welcome and more than hospitable here, the ire was directed at bcci for thinking of having sporting ties for money when the other country is talking about nuclear weapons.


I personally dont want any sort of bilateral series with a country when there is no peace between us.

Lets sort out our issues first peacefully then lets play in our backyards!

 

[Satan666]

Here's the deal
We have tactical nuclear weapons to deal with Indian aggression: Pakistan



Shiv sena is a group of hooligans no doubt but as i stated in the other thread the worst they do is throw ink on our indian administrators for getting into talks with a neighbor who to put it nicely hasn't exactly been having peaceful relations with us.

Icc has withdrawn the pak umpires and explayers not bcci or shiv sena, they have always been welcome and more than hospitable here, the ire was directed at bcci for thinking of having sporting ties for money when the other country is talking about nuclear weapons.


I personally dont want any sort of bilateral series with a country when there is no peace between us.

Lets sort out our issues first peacefully then lets play in our backyards!

Agree with most of your sentiments but together with many others believe cricket has always forged a strong bond between these two nations (and its way better than the ashes). Guess I can understand you not wanting any bilateral matches against Pakistan since they've historically beaten you guys across all formats!

Also get your info straight Shiv Sena have promoted violence and advocate violence! Re the '92 Bombay Riots.

 

[grkrama]

Agree with most of your sentiments but together with many others believe cricket has always forged a strong bond between these two nations (and its way better than the ashes).

IT does mate but right now when we dont have proper transparency in talks and a volatile situation is just not the right time.

Guess I can understand you not wanting any bilateral matches against Pakistan since they've historically beaten you guys across all formats!

Again you are either wantedly misdirecting my comments or you have misunderstood it, i said we dont need bilateral series till the political situation is resolved, its nothing against pak players or pak people just the whole political situation of war and terrorism need to be resolved. Also Results | Global | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[abhi_jacko]

Guess I can understand you not wanting any bilateral matches against Pakistan since they've historically beaten you guys across all formats!

LOL ! Totally predictable troll comment

 

[Rehan_24]

ICC is no longer an independent body it never was it has dual standards. Pity for World Cricket

 

[abhi_jacko]

Sorry to bring up the Shiv Sena, Mumbai, Chennai topic up again, but Sharda Ugra hits the nail on the head with this article.


Sharda Ugra: Should Mumbai and Chennai be struck off the international cricket calendar? | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[grkrama]

Basically its a pathetic article on the whole!

First let us not call this mumbai and chennai issue that's the most pathetic in itself its basically like saying a couple of member of my family are crazy but we are all ready to get laid!(sorry for the language but this irks me)

You have a nation threatening you with nuclear (mutual threats ofcourse ), They allegedly give home to D Company the key to all terrorists activities in India, They don't give you access to info on the mumbai terror attacks despite the well known fact that perpetrators are there, a highly wanted terrorist walks around freely in that country preaching like a politician. Not to forget the frequent skirmishes at the border.

Plus no moves are being made to improve these situations. At that point a private body having sports relations for milking money of the people is pathetic and people asking for that is even more so. Right now a bilateral series would send all the wrong signals.

WC is totally different matter were its like our responsibility towards so many other nations and hence has to be done despite hosting a our not so friendly neighbor.

I do look forward to the day india and pak resolve all out issues and can mutually grow forward in not just sports but so many other things. But right now these things need to be sorted first more than anything.


This lack of understanding or unity in our country really saddens me, whatever decision is taken has to be taken at a national level not, like hey mumbai and chennai are bad but we are all good you know why, because you didnt bomb us, or kill our cousins.. we have disowned them over a bunch of cricket game lets play now!

 

[War]

Chappelli calls it : Chappelli calls it | 'Sort out cricket's other problems before talking about the Olympics' | Cricket videos, MP3, podcasts, cricket audio | ESPN Cricinfo

Chappelli on point here - sort out cricket's administrative problems first big three!

 

[Rehan_24]

You can't just keep whining about political tensions between two countries... If you would wait for things to get stabilized I am sorry mate it wont in near future, It has been the history but Cricket never stopped between two nations Infact touring each other countries has always helped bringing the spirit together... It used to be a great rivalry..... You got to start from somewhere, BCCI signed an MOU with PCB, It was its responsibility to make the series possible. ICC is the head of world cricket teams, It had to intervene but its role has always been disappointing.

I can sense that some people are dreaming about writing-off Pakistan from World T20, They should go ahead with it. Except some indian fans, World Cricket says that Cricket needs a Team like Pakistan.

 

[CerealKiller]

They allegedly give home to D Company the key to all terrorists activities in India,

"Allegedly" is the key word here.

 

[abhi_jacko]

First let us not call this mumbai and chennai issue that's the most pathetic in itself its basically like saying a couple of member of my family are crazy but we are all ready to get laid!(sorry for the language but this irks me)

Except that it is a Mumbai and Chennai issue, regardless of how you word it. Mumbai is not the only city in India that has suffered at the hands of terrorist attacks, but we dont see violent outbursts in the rest of the country. And I dont know why you keep on equating the banning of Sri Lankan and Pakistani players/commentators/umpires with having a bilateral series ? You think if the Shiv Sainiks had not intervened with their pathetic acts, we would be having a bilateral series with Pak ? Not a chance.

The actual point is a lot simpler. IF chennai and mumbai cannot provide a safe environment for the same players who have no problems playing in the rest of the country, then it is a chennai and mumbai problem indeed.

PS: Civic elections happening in some parts of Mumbai. Which explains why Shiv Sainiks are chirpier than usual these days.

 

[PokerAce]

"Allegedly" is the key word here.

Yeah like how your news media talks about how Osama wasn't found in Pakistan and it was all "allegedly" a lie by the US .

Everyone and his dog knows where Mr. D is hiding. If the civillians didn't know Osama was living peacefully in Pakistan, what makes you think, your Govt. and army would tell you that Mr. D is living in Pakistan under their protection.

Lets not even get to Hafiz Saeed, responsible for the Mumbai terror attacks, a designated Int'l terrorist by the United Nations no less, with a big bounty on his head, who roams around freely in Pakistan, holds public rallies, etc.

Also there was some guy from Pakistan who made a post that what happened (protest against Aleem Dar, Akram, etc), amounted to "terrorism".

I mean what is he even comparing. Terrorism was what happened to SL players in Pakistan.

He is comparing a group of Int'l Cricket players, including legends like Sangakarra, being left in the open, trapped inside a bus, while nutjobs, use the bus for target practise with AK47s and what not, to a group of Pakistanis having posters waved at them !!

And to be honest Akram, Shoaib and Aleem Dar, didnt even have to face that. All the posters were waved at Shashank Manohar !!

On the Ind-Pak cricket thing. Personally i support the govt in whatever they decide. If they think there should be no cricketing ties then no cricketing ties it is. However do not support protest against Pakistan cricketers who have nothing to do with what is the issue at hand.

Even so to compare the protest to terror atts is frankly strange.

 

[CerealKiller]

Yeah like how your news media talks about how Osama wasn't found in Pakistan and it was all "allegedly" a lie by the US .

Everyone and his dog knows where Mr. D is hiding. If the civillians didn't know Osama was living peacefully in Pakistan, what makes you think, your Govt. and army would tell you that Mr. D is living in Pakistan under their protection.

Lets not even get to Hafiz Saeed, responsible for the Mumbai terror attacks, a designated Int'l terrorist with a big bounty on his head, who roams around freely in Pakistan, holds public rallies, etc.

Also there was some guy from Pakistan who made a post that what happened (protest against Aleem Dar, Akram, etc), amounted to "terrorism".

I mean what is he even comparing. Terrorism was what happened to SL players in Pakistan.

He is comparing a group of Int'l Cricket players, including legends like Sangakarra, being left in the open, trapped inside a bus, while nutjobs, use the bus for target practise with AK47s and what not, to a group of Pakistanis having posters waved at them !!

On the Ind-Pak cricket thing. Personally i support the govt in whatever they decide. If they think there should be no cricketing ties then no cricketing ties it is. However do not support protest against Pakistan cricketers who have nothing to do with what is the issue at hand.

Even so to compare the protest to terror atts is frankly strange.

yeah because your media is much better than ours, right?
Coming to the Hafiz Saeed thing, he was placed under house arrest by the Pakistan government after the 2008 Mumbai attacks, but was freed by the Lahore High Court, which is not the government. Afterwards, the government appealed against the ruling, but was rejected.

 

[abhi_jacko]

Oh dear ...

This had to happen I guess