India's tour of Australia - January 2016
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The recent selection actually got me to love the selectors. The players who have came as a surprise with their inclusions are called because either they rose their performance in domestic season or they know the format very well. Considering domestic performances and believing ability of young players is a great base to pick a team, which selectors managed to follow this time. That's exactly something selectors were missing in Srini's era?
Positives: Good that selectors finally have taken quick actions over those who have failed to impress with enough opportunities. Ambati Rayudu actually had a good start to his career, but he can manage to get big runs only if he has to bat at 3rd/4th position where Virat and Rahane are glued. He eats up to many balls to get going and also that he has not been in a good touch in domestic competitions recently been held, it is good time to drop him rather wasting so many of chances.(Ajinkya would come in at either 4th or 5th position but as a long term choice. I feel team has finally came to understand his importance, they would not like to make him ramble up and down, I hope).
Harbhajan's spot in T20s is equally important as R Ashwin. Axar is more a bowler than an all rounder, so keeping him alongside three specialist spin options would be a waste.
Bhuvi has lacking some confidence in last few series. He has still left the potential but now he loses the quality of swing that he had at the beginning of his career. Plus we need a quality attacker for death overs. With Shami, now bowlers would get some extra help at death. But Bhuvi would get hammered if he has to bowl a spell of 3-4 overs in death. He was treated like our main bowler in series against SA where he bowled more in death overs, it gone all wrong form him. Good point that selectors have been noticing all small aspects of game before discussing the names. Selectors still had not been too harsh on him, he's still there in T20 squad. He has to come back stronger.
And what say about Binny, he has gone for good, that's enough.
Negatives: I still got some negatives about this selection, although I somewhat managed to praise the selectors. Dropping Raina is not really in team's favor. I wondered about this decision and it got me to wonder more that why Dhoni didn't manage to stand by his friend's side. Considering Raina's limited over career, it's quite rare if he had ever been out of form. It's okay he did not have good domestic games, but there he has to lead his side(with that burden of captaincy) and after all what's wrong believing his ability? I'm not expecting but can be sure this would bring the player more of a lower morale and that may affect his performance. What suddenly make selectors lose all faith in one of their best players made for limited formats, they had more than more for Binny. If I were the committee, I'd not let destroy a player's career like this.
Keadr Jadhav had two centuries in Hazare trophy, I thought he could have a hope about this selection. He did not get so many chances in past, but played really well on Zimbabwe tour. Whoever this Gurkeerat Singh is, I don't know much about him, I haven't seen him playing but comparing his stats and form, that doesn't impress me more than Kedar's. So Kedar would have been my first choice over him as a batsman. He doesn't seem to have the much experience, Jadhav has plenty and some dressing room experience that he had during all his days when he had career as a reserved player. I still would not mind if I would be proven wrong by Gurkeerat.
BTW, have spoken a lot about selectors, now some of my neutral views on these players:
Yuvi's comeback did surprise me at first. But then I went to check his recent run, he has had three fifties in Vijay Hazare cup with strike rate almost above 110.00. It is great that he's fighting for his place.
Hardik Pandya is also a nice inclusion. He has got immense talent and ability for T20 format, hope he doesn't let down in Australia.
Nehra still has some potential left. He can be a threat to all the top orders in world right now, even at this stage of his career. Great pick.
And finally, more than just glad to see Rishi Dhawan in national side. He's something the side needed the most since team had been failing to find a genuine pace-all rounder, over almost 7-8 years. I don't expect huge turnarounds, but man, he has immense talent and even performances. With him team would be a lot balanced than it used to be if he doesn't fail to put his impact as an all rounder rather only as a batsman or a bowler.
Positives: Good that selectors finally have taken quick actions over those who have failed to impress with enough opportunities. Ambati Rayudu actually had a good start to his career, but he can manage to get big runs only if he has to bat at 3rd/4th position where Virat and Rahane are glued. He eats up to many balls to get going and also that he has not been in a good touch in domestic competitions recently been held, it is good time to drop him rather wasting so many of chances.(Ajinkya would come in at either 4th or 5th position but as a long term choice. I feel team has finally came to understand his importance, they would not like to make him ramble up and down, I hope).
Harbhajan's spot in T20s is equally important as R Ashwin. Axar is more a bowler than an all rounder, so keeping him alongside three specialist spin options would be a waste.
Bhuvi has lacking some confidence in last few series. He has still left the potential but now he loses the quality of swing that he had at the beginning of his career. Plus we need a quality attacker for death overs. With Shami, now bowlers would get some extra help at death. But Bhuvi would get hammered if he has to bowl a spell of 3-4 overs in death. He was treated like our main bowler in series against SA where he bowled more in death overs, it gone all wrong form him. Good point that selectors have been noticing all small aspects of game before discussing the names. Selectors still had not been too harsh on him, he's still there in T20 squad. He has to come back stronger.
And what say about Binny, he has gone for good, that's enough.
Negatives: I still got some negatives about this selection, although I somewhat managed to praise the selectors. Dropping Raina is not really in team's favor. I wondered about this decision and it got me to wonder more that why Dhoni didn't manage to stand by his friend's side. Considering Raina's limited over career, it's quite rare if he had ever been out of form. It's okay he did not have good domestic games, but there he has to lead his side(with that burden of captaincy) and after all what's wrong believing his ability? I'm not expecting but can be sure this would bring the player more of a lower morale and that may affect his performance. What suddenly make selectors lose all faith in one of their best players made for limited formats, they had more than more for Binny. If I were the committee, I'd not let destroy a player's career like this.
Keadr Jadhav had two centuries in Hazare trophy, I thought he could have a hope about this selection. He did not get so many chances in past, but played really well on Zimbabwe tour. Whoever this Gurkeerat Singh is, I don't know much about him, I haven't seen him playing but comparing his stats and form, that doesn't impress me more than Kedar's. So Kedar would have been my first choice over him as a batsman. He doesn't seem to have the much experience, Jadhav has plenty and some dressing room experience that he had during all his days when he had career as a reserved player. I still would not mind if I would be proven wrong by Gurkeerat.
BTW, have spoken a lot about selectors, now some of my neutral views on these players:
Yuvi's comeback did surprise me at first. But then I went to check his recent run, he has had three fifties in Vijay Hazare cup with strike rate almost above 110.00. It is great that he's fighting for his place.
Hardik Pandya is also a nice inclusion. He has got immense talent and ability for T20 format, hope he doesn't let down in Australia.
Nehra still has some potential left. He can be a threat to all the top orders in world right now, even at this stage of his career. Great pick.
And finally, more than just glad to see Rishi Dhawan in national side. He's something the side needed the most since team had been failing to find a genuine pace-all rounder, over almost 7-8 years. I don't expect huge turnarounds, but man, he has immense talent and even performances. With him team would be a lot balanced than it used to be if he doesn't fail to put his impact as an all rounder rather only as a batsman or a bowler.
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My ODI team would be:
Dhawan
Rohit
Kohli
Rahane
Dhoni
Gurkeerat
Rishi/Jadeja (depending on the conditions)
Ashwin
Umesh Yadav
Shami
Ishant/Saran
My T20 team would be:
Rohit
Rahane
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Raina
Hardik Pandya/Jadeja (depending on the conditions)
Ashwin
Bhuvi
Shami
Nehra
Dhawan hasn't done much in T20's to cement his place in the line-up. I like the idea of having Rahane at top because he has the ability to bat through the inning as he has done so many times for RR. Everyone else can try and bat around him. Even though selectors have picked Yuvi, I am really concerned because I don't Australia is the correct place for him to make a comeback. Pace and that extra bounce is more then likely to trouble him. Hopefully he does well.
Dhawan
Rohit
Kohli
Rahane
Dhoni
Gurkeerat
Rishi/Jadeja (depending on the conditions)
Ashwin
Umesh Yadav
Shami
Ishant/Saran
My T20 team would be:
Rohit
Rahane
Kohli
Yuvraj
Dhoni
Raina
Hardik Pandya/Jadeja (depending on the conditions)
Ashwin
Bhuvi
Shami
Nehra
Dhawan hasn't done much in T20's to cement his place in the line-up. I like the idea of having Rahane at top because he has the ability to bat through the inning as he has done so many times for RR. Everyone else can try and bat around him. Even though selectors have picked Yuvi, I am really concerned because I don't Australia is the correct place for him to make a comeback. Pace and that extra bounce is more then likely to trouble him. Hopefully he does well.
I feel Yuvraj and Pandey should have been swapped for their places in the T20 and ODI squad respectively. Yuvraj needs to play ODI and Manish Pandey needs to be in the T20 squad. With his age and reflexes, Yuvraj is a better fit in ODI's where he can milk the middle overs and set himself up for an assault. Manish Pandey with his younger age, agile fielding (he is a terrific fielder) and quick scoring, should be playing T20. Probably the selectors are looking at Yuvraj's bowling as a backup option. But to me, Jadeja is available as the spinning allrounder and Ashwin is able enough with bat too.
My T20 XI (for most part) should be
Rahane
Rohit
Kohli
Dhoni
Yuvraj
Raina
Ashwin
Jadeja
Shami
Yadav
Nehrai
Shami and Yadav did a great job in the ODI WC in Australia and so, they need to play. Nehra as the third seamer (and a left armer) for variety. Rohit and Raina after Dhoni, gives Dhoni the license to bat free and hopefully aggressive.
My ODI XI (for most part) should be:
Rahane
Dhawan
Kohli
Dhoni
Rohit
Pandey
Rishi
Ashwin
Jadeja
Shami
Yadav/Sran
My T20 XI (for most part) should be
Rahane
Rohit
Kohli
Dhoni
Yuvraj
Raina
Ashwin
Jadeja
Shami
Yadav
Nehrai
Shami and Yadav did a great job in the ODI WC in Australia and so, they need to play. Nehra as the third seamer (and a left armer) for variety. Rohit and Raina after Dhoni, gives Dhoni the license to bat free and hopefully aggressive.
My ODI XI (for most part) should be:
Rahane
Dhawan
Kohli
Dhoni
Rohit
Pandey
Rishi
Ashwin
Jadeja
Shami
Yadav/Sran
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I agree about Yuvi being in the ODI side for sure. I am surprised that Kedar Jadav was left out, he had a fine tour of Zimbabwe, with the India (effectively reserve) side.
Got a brilliant 100 to rescue India from a losing situation in one of the games.
Got a brilliant 100 to rescue India from a losing situation in one of the games.
I don't think the selectors or Dhoni will pick Yuvraj in ODI's because they have started to build a team for next WC. I personally don't see Yuvraj playing the next WC. That is why you are seeing more young players in the squad with the likes of Manish Pandey, Saran, Rishi Dhawan. You are also seeing older players such as Amit Mishra even though he is still good, they have excluded him because he won't be playing next WC and same can be said about Harbhajan Singh. I think selectors were also hoping to see Unmukt Chand and Sanju Samson step up but that hasn't happened yet.
If Yuvraj does well in Australia series and Asia cup, he can continue playing T20, however if he doesn't do well, I think he should retire after T20 WC because I don't see him getting another chance.
If Yuvraj does well in Australia series and Asia cup, he can continue playing T20, however if he doesn't do well, I think he should retire after T20 WC because I don't see him getting another chance.
While I agree Yuraj is unlikely to be fit to play the next WC, however I disagree that the team for the next edition is being built. That Dhoni is still incharge, itself shows that they are not yet looking ahead to the next edition all that seriously.
Dhoni like Yuvraj is unlikely to be around for the next edition.
I am delighted with the addition of Rishi Dhawan to the side, I feel he has the potential to do good stuff for the national side. I think he should be looked at for the tests too. India don't play an overseas test for a while but when those tours roll around, Dhawan can have a vital role to play as a Seam bowling all-rounder.
Dhoni like Yuvraj is unlikely to be around for the next edition.
I am delighted with the addition of Rishi Dhawan to the side, I feel he has the potential to do good stuff for the national side. I think he should be looked at for the tests too. India don't play an overseas test for a while but when those tours roll around, Dhawan can have a vital role to play as a Seam bowling all-rounder.
Even though I agree that Dhoni won't be there at the next WC. However, I feel that Dhoni will be there till Champions trophy. Sanju Samson or Kedar Jadhav will take over form him after that. I haven't seen keeping of Kedar Jadhav so can't say much about it but he is definitely a wonderful batsman. Champions trophy is likely to be a test before the WC for the whole squad since they both are being held in the same country.
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I disagree the ODI line-up, Rohit is set as a very good opener - since he start opening his average as rapidly incvreased and now has an average above 40(before opening it was 28.99). Rahane has also vcemented no. 4 spot in these many years with him scoring that 87 off 50 odd balls in that 439 chase, he showed that he has the the potential of scoring in at late as well. SO I'll straight away SWAP Rohit and Rahane and rest seem to be fine. If Pandya is gong to be given any chances it will be in place of Raina or Jadeja. Hoping for a good and learning tour.
I did not notice that Hardik Pandya is a seaming allrounder (I thought he was a spinning allrounder). I will then slightly modify my T20 XI where I swap out Yadav for Pandya.
On Rohit's opening argument - Rohit has done well as opener but more so heavily in subcontinental conditions. When he is confronted with slightly challenging conditions, he struggles to get going and it hurts the team. On the contrary, Rahane is an opener for challenging conditions. With the next WC in England where we will face swinging conditions, Rahane will be the best guy. Or if we can find a good middle order option, we can get rid of Dhawan in ODI's too and have Rahane and Rohit open the batting in both T20 and ODI. But till Dhawan stays, I prefer Rahane opening with him. Also it frees up Rohit for the middle order where his utility can be better than Rahane. Rahane struggles to get going from word go, whereas Rohit can do it more easily.
On Rohit's opening argument - Rohit has done well as opener but more so heavily in subcontinental conditions. When he is confronted with slightly challenging conditions, he struggles to get going and it hurts the team. On the contrary, Rahane is an opener for challenging conditions. With the next WC in England where we will face swinging conditions, Rahane will be the best guy. Or if we can find a good middle order option, we can get rid of Dhawan in ODI's too and have Rahane and Rohit open the batting in both T20 and ODI. But till Dhawan stays, I prefer Rahane opening with him. Also it frees up Rohit for the middle order where his utility can be better than Rahane. Rahane struggles to get going from word go, whereas Rohit can do it more easily.
In Rishi Dhawan update, in the Vijay Hazare trophy QFs he took three wickets and then contributed 42 with the bat vs Punjab.
MS Dhoni meanwhile played for Jharkhand which was led by Varun Aaron against a strong Delhi lineup featuring Shikhar Dhawan, Gautam Gambhir, and Ishant. Aaaron picked up two wickets to help dismiss Delhi for a low 225.
Jharkhand however fared even worse with the bat, being dismissed for 126. MS Dhoni remained unbeaten on 70, and was the only batsman to score any kind of runs for the Jharkhand side.
However for a team like Jharkhand to be in the QFs of this tournament is in itself quite and achievement.
MS Dhoni meanwhile played for Jharkhand which was led by Varun Aaron against a strong Delhi lineup featuring Shikhar Dhawan, Gautam Gambhir, and Ishant. Aaaron picked up two wickets to help dismiss Delhi for a low 225.
Jharkhand however fared even worse with the bat, being dismissed for 126. MS Dhoni remained unbeaten on 70, and was the only batsman to score any kind of runs for the Jharkhand side.
However for a team like Jharkhand to be in the QFs of this tournament is in itself quite and achievement.
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- MS Dhoni (c)
- Ravichandran Ashwin
- Rishi Dhawan
- Shikhar Dhawan
- Ravindra Jadeja
- Virat Kohli
- Manish Pandey
- Axar Patel
- Ajinkya Rahane
- Mohammed Shami
- Ishant Sharma
- Rohit Sharma
- Gurkeerat Singh
- Brainder Sran
- Umesh Yadav This is the odi team.Well i think Yuvraj Singh should have been given a chance in odi instead of t20.
- MS Dhoni (c)
- Ravichandran Ashwin
- Shikhar Dhawan
- Ravindra Jadeja
- Virat Kohli
- Bhuvneshwar Kumar
- Ashish Nehra
- Hardik Pandya
- Suresh Raina
- Ajinkya Rahane
- Mohammed Shami
- Rohit Sharma
- Harbhajan Singh
- Yuvraj Singh
- Umesh Yadav i don't know what Harbhajan singh is doin in this squad.This is t 20 squad.
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