Kent not welcome in Champions League - Modi

[FreddieFan]

Really hope the ECB don't back down on this. With the close relationship the ECB now appear to be forming with the Windies board, I think its time to stand up to the BCCI. If they don't back down Sod 'em, would have been nice to see a champions league of cricket, but lets see how long it lasts without English teams. We don't need it, we have a strong product already (as the marketing guys would say).

Agree totally. The BCCI has far too much power in the world game already, the ECB need to stand up to them. Their opposition of ICL players in unreasonable in my eyes and English teams should have the right to play whoever they like, as long as they don't break the ECB regulations about overseas players and suchlike. If the BCCI stick to their guns, fine, we'll stick to ours. I will be extremely disappointed if the ECD back down on this.

 

[SaiSrini]

I really wish that the cricketers and all the other boards in the world one day stand up and get too heavy for the BCCI and bring them down so badly that they dont come up ever again.

They are being unfairly ruthless on this whole ICL thing, and in many issues. I have started feeling that they are using the financial strength too much. The kind of answers these guys give are plain ARROGANT!

 

[pal]

The BCCI are doing nothing but following in the footsteps of the moronic English and Australian boards of the past and for that, they deserve to be soundly criticized. They need to chart a new course using their well-deserved power. It looks like the ECB will once again pimp out its own imitation of the BCCI's idea. Nothing else would be expected from the bastion of the spirit of cricket, obviously.

 

[m_vaughan]

It looks like the ECB will once again pimp out its own imitation of the BCCI's idea. Nothing else would be expected from the bastion of the spirit of cricket, obviously.

I am sorry but the concept of Twenty20 was started by the ECB. All the BCCI did (and that too only after the ICL started) was mix it with money, film actors and a whole lot of corrupton, besides screwing up with cricket as a sport.

There was no passion in the IPL. None. Whatever little was shown was bought and not actual. Did anyone see Ed Joyce in the final of the Twenty20 Cup? Thats how you feel when you play for your own team.

 

[Gilly Fan]

The BCCI can bugger off for all I care. Since when have they controlled the world and can tell everyone what to do? They don't control this tournament. Far out...

 

[Dr. Pepper]

I am sorry but the concept of Twenty20 was started by the ECB. All the BCCI did (and that too only after the ICL started) was mix it with money, film actors and a whole lot of corrupton, besides screwing up with cricket as a sport.

There was no passion in the IPL. None. Whatever little was shown was bought and not actual. Did anyone see Ed Joyce in the final of the Twenty20 Cup? Thats how you feel when you play for your own team.

Spot on! The passion comes from the local boys playing for their county in the final not from "world class" sellouts from all over the world. This is totally out of order from the BCCI. ECB don't need them. Hopefully the ECB will just stop for a second and realize all this Twenty20 nonsense has gotten totally out of hand. They need to put a stop to it and stand up to the BCCI.

 

[smssia0112]

I really wish that the cricketers and all the other boards in the world one day stand up and get too heavy for the BCCI and bring them down so badly that they dont come up ever again.

They are being unfairly ruthless on this whole ICL thing, and in many issues. I have started feeling that they are using the financial strength too much. The kind of answers these guys give are plain ARROGANT!

If you've only started thinking this you're a few years behind schedule.

It's great that the BCCI continues to up the ante though, they've been controlling the ICC for years now and they're now being so outrageous that even their own fans are against them. It's a shame that their money will ensure that the ICC do nothing about it. The only way anything will happen here is if the ECB take a stand, they'll have Australian and NZ in their corner, and quite possibly South Africa and the Windies, and if they have all that then the ICC may actually listen to their demands.

Threats from the ECB and CA to start their own Cricket Council is the way to go I think. It would force immediate action because no matter how much the ICC love the subcontinent, you can bet that they won't jump at having a competition with no one but the subcontinent and Zimbabwe.

 

[adyhorn]

England are going to have their own T20 Champions League in Sharjah in October. They invited the BCCI but they said no.

Link:http://content-uk.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/362835.html

 

[Cricketman]

There was no passion in the IPL. None. Whatever little was shown was bought and not actual. Did anyone see Ed Joyce in the final of the Twenty20 Cup? Thats how you feel when you play for your own team.

I don't like the BCCI, but I felt passion when I watched the IPL. I guess the regional rivalries play a big part in it, just like in any other domestic tournament.

Did you look at Shane Warne when he won the final? Passion, surely.

 

[manee]

Did you look at Shane Warne when he won the final? Passion, surely.

Indeed, how the Royals all hugged and celebrated together was very passionate - a very visible team unity. If I recall correctly, the Kings XI gathered in a huddle after the final too, showing that there was more unity in the teams than simply winning.

 

[Cricketman]

Coming back to flaming the BCCI () - I think it's really stupid that Kent are not allowed to participate in the tournament simply because they have a few players who played in the ICL. I think that move was rude and ridiculous from the BCCI.

They should stop forcing players to play in their version and just get over with the fact that the ICL exists.

 

[pal]

Coming back to flaming the BCCI () - I think it's really stupid that Kent are not allowed to participate in the tournament simply because they have a few players who played in the ICL. I think that move was rude and ridiculous from the BCCI.

India (and the BCCI) is in a position of power, because of the passion towards cricket that is prevalent among our people. We invest ourselves in our cricket, we sometimes do it to a ridiculous extent, but the fact that we have so many people as part of the cricket television market and other related markets means that we are the largest source of revenue for the cricketing boards. What they want to do is to smooch off of us, while trying to protest that we shouldn't be in a position of power. The BCCI is in a position that it deserves to be in, but it is not living up to the passion and the spirit of the people who put it in there. It has decided to follow the money-obsessed ways of the controlling boards of the past. It has decided to follow the precedent set by the Australian board to the WSC, in its response to the ICL. We know how that ended, even though the ICL is much weaker and ineffective, and this is not a good path for the BCCI. They need to use their position to chart a new course that will serve the world of cricket good. But, at the same time, understand that like all things, this is a game of power and politics. If the BCCI wasn't the powerful board that it is and the ECB or some other board was in its place, the same things would happen and to the complaining Indian fans here, they would have their boots to our neck. That would not be a power structure that we could be a part of. But, of course, now that the power structure is tilted, we will see rants and complaints till the cows come home. Whatever happens, we're going to blamed. If we're not blamed, the Asian bloc will be blamed. We know that's what will happen, but that's all right. The BCCI needs to sort itself out, make itself more efficient, and push for an international cricketing board where the power structure will be horizontal, rather than vertical.

 

[smssia0112]

I would have less of a problem with the BCCI if they weren't also controlling the ICC. In the next 5 years, they will be completely in charge of world cricket, and that is frightening. The ICC needs to be a more balanced board, it has to represent the interests of cricket, not Indian cricket. This chain of Premier Leagues is not good for cricket, it's good for money. It will not help international cricket one bit, it will only hurt it as it will be taking up time for international cricket.

 

[sohum]

I am sorry but the concept of Twenty20 was started by the ECB. All the BCCI did (and that too only after the ICL started) was mix it with money, film actors and a whole lot of corrupton, besides screwing up with cricket as a sport.

I am sure that the ECB sold (or should've sold rights) for Twenty20 after coming up with it. There's no other reason I can see that it continues to be called "Twenty20". Where is the corruption in the IPL? Or are you just throwing around propaganda?

There was no passion in the IPL. None. Whatever little was shown was bought and not actual. Did anyone see Ed Joyce in the final of the Twenty20 Cup? Thats how you feel when you play for your own team.

I fail to see why you discredit any passion just because of the high salaries. Is Ed Joyce playing cricket for no salary these days? Absolute bullshit, is what I think. Only a few players here and there played for teams that weren't in their general region. There are also plenty of internationals in the English Twenty20 league. Are you going to go around singling them out for not having "real" passion?

sohummisra added 2 Minutes and 55 Seconds later...

The BCCI can bugger off for all I care. Since when have they controlled the world and can tell everyone what to do? They don't control this tournament. Far out...

They actually do control the Champions Trophy, which is why they get the right to decide who can participate and who cannot. It is sad that the policies they adopted about the ICL are so primitive, but all the other boards in the world had a chance to stand up against them. Wasn't it New Zealand who played with the future of Shane Bond and lost him?

If you rile up the support of the FICA and 3 or 4 boards you can stand up to the BCCI. Hell, even if South Africa and Australia boycott India, I can assure you that after a couple of seasons, we will be bored of playing against Pakistan and Sri Lanka. All the other boards are as much at blame as falling meekly as the BCCI is for taking a high-and-might attitude against the ICL.

sohummisra added 1 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

Spot on! The passion comes from the local boys playing for their county in the final not from "world class" sellouts from all over the world. This is totally out of order from the BCCI. ECB don't need them. Hopefully the ECB will just stop for a second and realize all this Twenty20 nonsense has gotten totally out of hand. They need to put a stop to it and stand up to the BCCI.

We don't have counties in India. So your argument holds no merit with regards to the IPL. The BCCI have long since had their arguments against the ICL agreed in the ICC. I would be happy if someone stood up and forced them to recognize the ICL and promised dire circumstances in the case that they did not comply (such as boycotts). Unfortunately it seems like the players in all other countries like the green as well.

sohummisra added 1 Minutes and 10 Seconds later...

Threats from the ECB and CA to start their own Cricket Council is the way to go I think. It would force immediate action because no matter how much the ICC love the subcontinent, you can bet that they won't jump at having a competition with no one but the subcontinent and Zimbabwe.

Behavior from Australia does not seem to suggest anything of the sort, though. After all, it was the Australian and Indian cricket boards that came up with the IPL, which was a tournament in reaction to the ICL.

sohummisra added 1 Minutes and 28 Seconds later...

England are going to have their own T20 Champions League in Sharjah in October. They invited the BCCI but they said no.

As I said in the other threads, the ECB were really kidding themselves if they expected anything except a rejection from the BCCI. It would take the most naive of people (which is unfortunately the majority of the population of the world) to think that the BCCI are at fault for not wanting to enter into a "copy-cat" Champions League after a tussle with that organizing board.

 

[m_vaughan]

You are claiming as if BCCI have devised something totally new where all they are doing is having a normal T20 competition with teams from different countries. Hardly original.

If England are not allowed to participate in it, they might as well go ahead and launch something of their own. The chances are the latter will have players playing more for the cricket than the money.

And I am not saying Ed Joyce is playing without salary, but that since he is a Middlesex player the entire season in a lot of competitions, it is something that is very close to him. Where as the IPL teams are basically franchisees who have bought most of their stars. Shane Warne can never show the same sort of passion for Rajasthan as Joyce can for Middlesex. Its common sense.

The BCCI is crap. Period.