Left Arm Chinaman, Why So Rare?

[sohum]

i disagree...as i stated there are many many left arm orthadox bowlers

and if chinaman is rare are you not more likely to succeed if you are bowling it?

Yeah--case in point is Hogg in ODI's. He still isn't good enough at his trade to trouble the opposition too much in test matches, though.

 

[freddiw]

yea but to be honest he is poor..

too many crap balls and for a test cricketer you shouldnt be doing that
BUT he has learnt chinaman and is one in a million to bowl it so he got all the way

 

[iloveireland]

It looks weird. That is a main reason

 

[Simbazz]

It's all to do with angles and how differnt it is to what a right handed leggies does.

It starts at grassroots, i know from experience that kids who come out showing thier intent to follow "Warnie," and do have slightly skill are always pushed to go orthodox as its a lot easier to coach. I was pushed to bowl SLA, and i became pretty good at it, but once you've done it, you may as well try it coming out of the back of the hand, thats how i got my breakthrough into bowling it.

You need to understand that for a RH Legspinner its easier, because he's prodominately bowling to RHB therefore the angles are made a lot easier, and getting wickets is easier. (Still difficult, but easier)

For a LH Legspinner, or Unorthodox spinner, its difficult because if you look at a cricket team of 11, its quite often you find one or two LH BATSMEN, and maybe 1 or 2 TAILENDERs. So immediately you're at a disadvantage, as you've got to keep going in unnatural places to bowl, either cutting right across the wicket and getting up close and excited with the stumps, or you've got to bowl from so far across the crease that the Umpire is a dot to you. Obviously i'm overexagerating but its true, theres no middle ground when bowling to the RH Batter, but for a LH Leggie bowling to a LH batsmen, thats where the tricks come in and you can imagine your "Warnie."

It looks weird. That is a main reason

It looks unorthodox, thats why its given that name. If something is unorthodox, its un-natural.

 

[Benauds appreci]

They are probably too busy buying specialist items for lefties.....like scissors and can openers that they don't have time to hoy a few "unorthadox" deliveries down the pitch!!

 

[freddiw]

yea i agree

for a rugt hand leggiie you can bowl on off on the sumps outside off down leg if its turning it doesnt matter.

A left leggie has to bowl outside off or they will hit over leg with the turn

 

[aussie1st]

Chinaman bowling is the most difficult art of the spin bowling displines. Leg spin is already hard enough to master with very few countries being able to produce top ones so for lefties it's even more harder to master. And of course as mentioned there aren't as many left hand batters around.

Quite interesting though, Australia has a number of these. And Beau Casson is another one.

 

[satishmania]

i think Michael Bevan was a decent Left arm chinamen bowler. He took a 5-for in a test against England

 

[angryangy]

Quite interesting though, Australia has a number of these. And Beau Casson is another one.

And that is another conundrum. Switching your batting style is much easier than bowling with your off-hand. In fact when coaches tell us the top hand is key, it's surprising that people prefer to have their dominant hand at the bottom. Hayden, Gilchrist, Clarke, Hussey, Ganguly, Inzamam, Lara, Gayle, Chanderpaul, Trescothick, Sangakkara, Fleming and Graeme Smith are all current and recent exponents of batting in the opposite to expected style.

In Pura Cup cricket, there's pretty much always at least 2 left handers, with WA known to be capable of fielding half a dozen left hand batsmen.

 

[SciD]

In Pura Cup cricket, there's pretty much always at least 2 left handers, with WA known to be capable of fielding half a dozen left hand batsmen.

I think lefties have taken over Australian cricket. This is list of the test lefties in just concluded India-Australia series

Hayden
Jacques
Hussey
Gichrist
Hogg
Jhonson

Now thats 6 out 11 batsmen.

I remember once WI side used to have 7 lefties.

 

[MS.Dhoni]

i think Michael Bevan was a decent Left arm chinamen bowler. He took a 5-for in a test against England

clarke is even better though.
i agree, left arm orthodox is much easier then chinaman. thats the actual reason me thinks

 

[freddiw]

yea all lefties choose the easyy optioon but some,

like hogg think outside the box...a good chinaman is possibly the best bowler you can find

 

[vaibhav mehta]

I know Best Left arm chinaman,Its PAUL ADAMS from SAF!

 

[mattfb]

clarke is even better though.
i agree, left arm orthodox is much easier then chinaman. thats the actual reason me thinks

Clarkes a left hand orthodox though.

Aussie state have a few left hand bowlers like Beau Casson from NSW is one.

 

[freddiw]

I know Best Left arm chinaman,Its PAUL ADAMS from SAF!

quality action BUT its not the best