Lord of the Rings Mafia - Town wins

Well firstly I'd just like to put this out there, while Hedger is cleared of being mafia, there's still and outside possibility that he could be Gollum. I can't remember if you said/there is a reason why Eowyn would be the double voter, but normally the double voter is one of the more prominent characters, so I'm just putting it out there that Gollum could be the double voter as an individual.

In terms of the play yesterday, I don't think Tom done himself a lot of favours. I have however been in the same situation as him with a crap character (ARay's mafia where he deliberately gave me a different name to put everyone off, also I was a vanilla townie), and you really don't have a lot of cards to play in terms of what's infront of you in order to try and prove your innocence, because of your character and your role. However as a vanilla townie he should have probably tried to stay slightly more active, because as one that's how you can be helpful to the town's cause.

In terms of Colin and Spoobir I think they may of been slightly too aggressive towards Tom, but with nothing else happening it was a gamble that probably had to be taken. I don't think Spoobir's played that great, but he does has a strong claim which leans heavily towards him being town. On Colin's in his first game I just don't think he would have played this way if he was mafia. Most first time town players are relatively quite and unhelpful, while most first time mafia players try to stay completely under the radar, which he hasn't done. IF he was mafia they could have given him some sort of license and poisoned him for that reason, but with User as a confirmed townie I think that almost clears Colin.

In terms of who I'm most suspicious of, that's tough because there's still still a couple of characters claim (who've been borderline), who all seem to carry the same amount of chance of being in the game from my perspective (and it doesn't help when like five people have names beginning with "E" and are all around 5 letter wrong). Culli's plays being strange at best, while the likes of Mark who has a strong claim has been very little help. I'm not really sure what to make of the likes of Zohaib, didn't he claim vanilla with a borderline character, kind of the easy route out for mafia. Although there's bound to be a few vanilla's in such a big game, and with little suspicious on him I assume who he claimed was verified by the others.

Btw do you have those vote charts Colin, and if you do could you post all three here so we can analysis them together.

Also in the future can we get the final vote count with the write-up.
 
No rule against posting at night in this? EX-cell-ent!...

Even if Colin is town (not conceding that just yet), I call on him to have a bit more humility re his mistake with Tom. "Treebeard more suss than Eowyn etc" is at best a totally subjective call. He led you astray, town, don't let it happen again. And how does blaming the victim help fgs?. It was the fault of the townies that lynched him, not his!

I'm confident BKB, Varun and Spoobir are town. If Spoobir wasn't Gimli, I can see no reason why the real Gimli wouldn't come forward. I've got a good feeling about Callum and (to a lesser extent) Chewie. As for Hedger, I agree with Callum that he has a weak(ish) character claim and being confirmed as a double-voter doesn't change that.

Mark and Maney have been caught (or admitted to) acting anti-town. Zohaib, SachinFan and Culli are the others that sound scummy to me. I think that just leaves Aditya...so I don't trust him either.

I can't take Ben's vengeance kill claim seriously, except in that it makes him more clearly someone the town don't want around.
 
Well I don't know what much more to do to convince you I'm town. I've never even seen an individual double voter. I guess you could lynch me off to prove I'm town but there'd be no point in that and we just lose another day and another townie. atm, I'm leaning towards Aditya as mafia. He said that day cleared things up. It didn't really clear anything up for the town but it would have for the mafia.
 
I'll still have no hesitation in killing you if it helps. Town comes first.

Regarding the day-time SK it must be an individual role seeing as he's taken out a mafia and a known townie. Gollum is a possible but Boromir is most likely.

This mafia game is making my head hurt (and that's not a character statement!).

Anyway night as Aditya said.

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@P Squared - first post is now in your name. I'll take my reward in the form of a night-time immunity.

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Incidentally what are your thoughts on the fact your brother is going round murdering people?

Dont know but shouldnt he be town and kill all the mafia's?

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@Barmyarmy - It's night phase so I wont say much but it's cleared just for me. By cleared I mean, I have some doubts in my mind which I'll post on day 4 and then hopefully we will go ahead and finally lynch a mafia. :p We're getting somewhere is what I'd say....

You seem really confident that you will be alive in Day 4, that to me is scummy

People like CCG and 6hkjg posted their thoughts now as they know they might not be alive in Day 4
 
Well you say, "Should I post my thoughts tonight or tomorrow" and the mafia see that and think, "He might know something. Let's kill him tonight then he can't post anything", then you turn up dead tomorrow and we have no idea what you were going to say.
 
You seem really confident that you will be alive in Day 4, that to me is scummy

People like CCG and 6hkjg posted their thoughts now as they know they might not be alive in Day 4

I haven't played that great to be killed by mafia's in this night phase. There are better players still left, how can I be killed when I'm not a threat to the mafia's? I'm suspicious of just one member at the moment, that is SachinFan. If he is mafia then obviously I MIGHT be killed in this night phase but as I'm not suspicious of anyone else, I don't see any possibility of getting killed. Also, you've been pretty quite in this game. I haven't really seen a great contribution from you in this game but yet you haven't come under the suspicion radar which is very surprising.

@6ry4nj - I don't see how you trust BKB. I don't trust him, he hasn't done anything that confirms him as a townie. As far as I'm concern, it's fair enough that you don't trust me. I haven't done anything special for the town as well so it's pretty obvious that you'd be suspicious of me but as I haven't done anything in town's favor I haven't done anything suspicious at the same time.

@Hedger_14 - Well, I do see some things getting cleared up but as I mentioned earlier, it could be just me. I'd post what has cleared up for me on day 4 and see if other members think the same.

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And Zohaib that's how it works mate, they posted their views on the game now because they want to gain the town trust that they are afraid of getting killed on night 3. They need to pretend townies but I don't need to do that. I'm a townie and there is a very little possibility of me getting killed in this night phase as I mentioned above simply because I'm not a THREAT to the townies until and unless I'm suspicious of one of the mafia members.
 
Even if Colin is town (not conceding that just yet), I call on him to have a bit more humility re his mistake with Tom. "Treebeard more suss than Eowyn etc" is at best a totally subjective call. He led you astray, town, don't let it happen again. And how does blaming the victim help fgs?. It was the fault of the townies that lynched him, not his!

Of course it's a subjective call but what else are you supposed to do when looking at weak character claims? The fact is that we've lynched off the 2 weakest claims - Arwen and Treebeard.
I do partly blame the victim in this case. Reason 1: he claimed when he didn't have to. Reason 2: his defence was to call Spoobir and I mafia.
As for "He led you astray, town, don't let it happen again." I'll assume that's another rhetorical flourish because frankly it's totally meaningless. The job of the town is to lynch mafias and that's what I was trying to do.
I know you're new to this game but I'm not always convinced you've actually read the whole thread. First you put an FOS on someone who was dead and then you announce that Mark has been found acting anti-town. Where?
If you'd read the thread carefully you would realise that I'm clearly town and you're really not helping by constantly criticising my play and casting doubt on my alignment.
Of course we made a mistake over Tom; it happens. In very few mafia games (have you read any of the others?) do you manage to lynch mafia members on days 2 and 3.

Just to add that I'm now suspicious of pretty much everyone so real progress there...

@Callum - I'll complete the day 3 one and post the links to the voting data.
 
Night 3


The mischievous hobbit was feeling unwell, but he knew that there was no one left to save him, and so he must face his inevitable death. He was also looking for something. Something that the wise old man had. He went into the wizards room and saw the object he was looking for. Quietly he stole that object and went back to his room.
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Everything seemed to be happening to the wise old man. He was feeling the pain he had felt some nights ago again. And again it was a fellow wizard who had caused it.
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The elf was sleeping peacefully in his bed until someone came suddenly from behind and split his throat. He slept peacefully for eternity.


Aditya was -

Legolas, Archer, Town-aligned
It is now Day 4. With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
 
Another important Town gone. We need to find these Mafia folk, pronto.
 

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