North should replace Hauritz as frontline spinner - MacGill

[sifter132]

The stats don't show Swann is better than Hauritz, that wasn't the intention of the series stats. What the above stats show is Swann is better than Hauritz, BUT Swann has gorged himself in cheap wickets and when it comes to the better sides he's joe average.

Agree with this

If it was a 'turner' then how come England's TWO spinners took 1/246 between them? According to you Swann is better, I've never said he isn't, but Hauritz took six wickets in that match to Swann's NONE................... No he didnt' win the match, in my opinion Hauritz did very well to take six wickets.

Well to be frank, Australia's batsmen owned them - that's why. Swann wasn't consistent enough and Monty wasn't penetrative enough, plus it was fantastic batting. Some of the best I've seen from Australia.

And anyway, you can't just look at wicket tallys. Look at how the captain used his bowlers. The fact that spinners were used so much in that match DESPITE their lack of success means that the captain still thought spin was the way to go. That's enough to suggest turner to me.

 

[aussie1st]

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The man who brought us Warne is calling for Hauritz to be axed for Krejza. Although I believe hes more indicating Krejza should have been stuck with rather than dropped as picking him now is a lot harder given he barely starts for Tassie. I always thought he was hard done by and should have been given another Test at least. He didn't look as effective in his 2nd Test but it was the WACA so I don't know what the selectors were looking for from him.

 

[lethalhughes]

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The man who brought us Warne is calling for Hauritz to be axed for Krejza. Although I believe hes more indicating Krejza should have been stuck with rather than dropped as picking him now is a lot harder given he barely starts for Tassie. I always thought he was hard done by and should have been given another Test at least. He didn't look as effective in his 2nd Test but it was the WACA so I don't know what the selectors were looking for from him.

If my memory serves me right I think Watson was drop in favour of Symonds sometime after that Indian series, though Watto had a top series with the ball.Think selectors got it wrong there.The whole plan should have centered around having Watson in there and Krejza ( as Krejza couldnt be part of a 4 man attack,nor was Symonds a better bowling option than Watson).I know Watson got injured after that but most selections from the selectors just lack logic imo.Its had dropping a guy who takes 12 wickets on debut after just 2 games when clearly there wasn't any other option good enough.In addition it was at the Wacca.Selectors did panic big time.Selectors should have done one of two things.That is they should have probably drop Krejza in the melbourne test( for playing 4 quicks) just to make a statement to him that he should tighten up a bit .He should definitely have been picked for Sydney as that wicket was tailor made for him.Or the most likely option is that they should have stuck to him in Melbourne and Sydney( I would have) .Bad decision by the selectors in closing the door on Krejza for Huaritz at the time. Watching Krejza bowl verses NSW I must say he looked impressive.I wouldn't consider him just yet but Krejza like Hughes must be wondering wtf happen to them.Those guys made massive impact early on but after a match or 2 matches of failure those guys get shown the door.You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realise that something aint right there.

 

[aussie1st]

Krejza biggest problem is getting back into the side, if Doherty doesn't get picked for the Test side then hes the first choice spinner for Tassie and most of their games are in Hobart where you don't need two spinners. As you mentioned at least he showed some promising signs in the Shield clash to show hes not a totally lost cause.

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Won't complain if that happens as Doherty spins the ball a bit and has the arm ball as a variation to cause some problems. O'Keefe would be the other guy which fits the plan of getting Pietersen out and he is very handy with the bat.

 

[War]

Benaud is 200% on point. I've been saying it all along. Bring him back as selector.

 

[lethalhughes]

Krejza biggest problem is getting back into the side, if Doherty doesn't get picked for the Test side then hes the first choice spinner for Tassie and most of their games are in Hobart where you don't need two spinners. As you mentioned at least he showed some promising signs in the Shield clash to show hes not a totally lost cause.

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Won't complain if that happens as Doherty spins the ball a bit and has the arm ball as a variation to cause some problems. O'Keefe would be the other guy which fits the plan of getting Pietersen out and he is very handy with the bat.

I don't think Doherty spins it more than Hauritz( I think they spin it about the same).Doherty though spins it away from right handers and England got plenty.I tend to agree with Robin Smith it shoud either be Krejza,Doherty.I would then say O'keefe over Smith though.Doherty first choice.Hauritz has lost it.

 

[KeithParker]

whatever happened to beau casson

marcus north being australia's frontline spinner is a big gamble, he tends to bowl defensively which makes getting wickets difficult. Steve smith, for me is a far better option as although he can be expensive, he will get wickets for you.

 

[lethalhughes]

whatever happened to beau casson

marcus north being australia's frontline spinner is a big gamble, he tends to bowl defensively which makes getting wickets difficult. Steve smith, for me is a far better option as although he can be expensive, he will get wickets for you.

You just describe Mac Gill not Steve Smith.Although MacGill could be expensive he was a wicket taker.Smith on the other hand isn't a wicket taker yet nor is he able to keep the batsman quiet.Not cause someone is a leg spinner should we take that to mean he's a wicket taker.

 

[AARRONN]

If north played at 8 then everyone would be saying put him up to 5 or 6!!
because his average for 8 is really good! ... lol
just leave him as a batsmen who bowls partime off breaks who bats at no. 6
if he doesn't perform in the first game or even the 2nd game on ashes, then its simple! drop him!!
and bring in white or David Hussey!!! ( there much better bowlers and batsmen AND fielders)
or if your looking for a younger player who can bowl still you always have Steve O'Keefe? i know its a gamble but O'Keefe has really started to make a name for himself with bat and ball!
or if your looking for just a specialist batsmen you have Khawa..? i think that how you spell his name?! or even chuck in Callum Ferguson? hes a good future player too.
Australia have options but there not taking them.. UNTIL recently.. hauritz being axed was harsh! and i do feel for him...but!! it was needed! they need to get that "winning feeling" back? who agrees?

 

[lethalhughes]

If north played at 8 then everyone would be saying put him up to 5 or 6!!
because his average for 8 is really good! ... lol
just leave him as a batsmen who bowls partime off breaks who bats at no. 6
if he doesn't perform in the first game or even the 2nd game on ashes, then its simple! drop him!!
and bring in white or David Hussey!!! ( there much better bowlers and batsmen AND fielders)
or if your looking for a younger player who can bowl still you always have Steve O'Keefe? i know its a gamble but O'Keefe has really started to make a name for himself with bat and ball!
or if your looking for just a specialist batsmen you have Khawa..? i think that how you spell his name?! or even chuck in Callum Ferguson? hes a good future player too.
Australia have options but there not taking them.. UNTIL recently.. hauritz being axed was harsh! and i do feel for him...but!! it was needed! they need to get that "winning feeling" back? who agrees?

Yea agreed CHANGE is needed.If someone just aint performing then you look for an alternative.You wont know how the alternative will do if u dont give them a go.