blockerdave
ICC Chairman
off the top of my head, i think Rowe's debut was a double in one inns and a single in the other, but he does have a triple. i'll check
Draft: One per decade draft | Poll open, see post #113 for team list
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off the top of my head, i think Rowe's debut was a double in one inns and a single in the other, but he does have a triple. i'll check
blockerdave
ICC Chairman
blockerdave
ICC Chairman
Just googled it, it's Bob Simpson.
ahmedleo414
The Butcher
I am going with Ernie Toshack played his first test in 1946 and final in 1948 so he is my pick from 1940s
Stats|Matches|Wkts|
Ave|BBI|5w/10w
First-Class |48|195|20.37|7/81|12/1
Test |12|47|21.04|6/29|4/1
Here is a little of his bio from wiki page:
"Ernest Raymond Herbert Toshack (8 December 1914 – 11 May 2003) was an Australian cricketer who played in 12 Tests from 1946 to 1948. A left arm medium paced bowler known for his accuracy and stamina in the application of leg theory, Toshack was a member of Don Bradman's "Invincibles" that toured England in 1948 without being defeated. Toshack reinforced the Australian new ball attack of Ray Lindwall and Keith Miller.
Born in 1914, Toshack overcame many obstacles to reach international level cricket. He was orphaned as an infant, and his early cricket career was hindered because of financial difficulties caused by the Great Depression. The Second World War prevented Toshack from competing at first-class level until he was into his thirties. In 1945–46, the first season of cricket after the end of the War, Toshack made his debut at first-class level and after only seven matches in the Sheffield Shield he was selected for Australia's tour of New Zealand. In Wellington, he opened the bowling in a match that was retrospectively classed as an official Test match. Toshack became a regular member of the Australian team, playing in all of its Tests until the 1947–48 series against India. He took his career-best match bowling figures of 11 wickets for 31 runs (11/31) in the First Test but began to suffer recurring knee injuries, and a medical board had to approve his selection for the 1948 England tour. Toshack played in the first four Tests before being injured. After a long convalescence, he attempted a comeback during Australia's 1949–50 season, but further injury forced him to retire. He was a parsimonious bowler, who was popular with crowds for his sense of humour."
My playing XI:
Ave|BBI|5w/10wFirst-Class |48|195|20.37|7/81|12/1
Test |12|47|21.04|6/29|4/1
"Ernest Raymond Herbert Toshack (8 December 1914 – 11 May 2003) was an Australian cricketer who played in 12 Tests from 1946 to 1948. A left arm medium paced bowler known for his accuracy and stamina in the application of leg theory, Toshack was a member of Don Bradman's "Invincibles" that toured England in 1948 without being defeated. Toshack reinforced the Australian new ball attack of Ray Lindwall and Keith Miller.
Born in 1914, Toshack overcame many obstacles to reach international level cricket. He was orphaned as an infant, and his early cricket career was hindered because of financial difficulties caused by the Great Depression. The Second World War prevented Toshack from competing at first-class level until he was into his thirties. In 1945–46, the first season of cricket after the end of the War, Toshack made his debut at first-class level and after only seven matches in the Sheffield Shield he was selected for Australia's tour of New Zealand. In Wellington, he opened the bowling in a match that was retrospectively classed as an official Test match. Toshack became a regular member of the Australian team, playing in all of its Tests until the 1947–48 series against India. He took his career-best match bowling figures of 11 wickets for 31 runs (11/31) in the First Test but began to suffer recurring knee injuries, and a medical board had to approve his selection for the 1948 England tour. Toshack played in the first four Tests before being injured. After a long convalescence, he attempted a comeback during Australia's 1949–50 season, but further injury forced him to retire. He was a parsimonious bowler, who was popular with crowds for his sense of humour."
My playing XI:
- Vinod Kambli 1990s
- Chris Tavaré 1980s
- Eddie Paynter 1930s
- Bob Cowper 1960s
- Adam Voges 2010s
- Tony Greig 1970s
- ?
- ?
- Matthew Hoggard 2000s
- ?
- Ernie Toshack 1940s
Aislabie
Test Cricket is Best Cricket
Well I never would have seen that coming - his triple came seven years into his Test career.
Have just looked on Statsguru, and after 29 matches he had 1,653 runs @ 35.93 (15 fifties, best 92). Can you imagine a player being given such a long leash nowadays?
blockerdave
ICC Chairman
Yep, I was VERY suprised when I saw it was him!
Aislabie
Test Cricket is Best Cricket
Ross EdwardsDecade: 1970s
Test stats: 1,171 runs @ 40.37 (2 centuries, best 170*) in 20 matches
First-class stats: 7,345 runs @ 39.27 (14 centuries, best 170*) in 126 matches
It's not often a player becomes known for a single shot, but Ross Edwards' cut shot really was something else. I was only particularly aware of him from when I did the 1975 World Cup, but what I hadn't realised was that he spent most of his Shield career as a wicket-keeper, forced to break into the Australian side as a pure batsman because Rod Marsh wasn't going anywhere. In my side, he takes on both roles; Collie Smith will shuffle down to number six and suddenly my middle-order looks pretty okay. Still don't know what I'm going to do with my top order though, as everyone I pick now has to be from 1949 or earlier (but not the 1920s).
@Aislabie 's XI so far:
1.
2.
3.
4.
Seymour Nurse5.
Ross Edwards6.
Collie Smith7.
Percy Fender 8.
Ryan Harris9.
Fanie de Villiers10.
Shane Bond11.
Tony Gray@Yash.
- Jimmy Cook (90s)
- Wasim Jaffer (2000s)
- ?
- ?
- ?
- Russell Endean (50s)
- Barry Knight (60s)
- Geoff Lawson (80s)
- Max Walker (70s)
- Jack Young (40s)
- Josh Hazlewood (2010s)
Statistics
Tests: 17 Wickets @ 44.52 (BBI 3/65) in 8 matches
First Class: 1361 Wickets @ 19.68 (82 5WI, 17 10WM, BBI 9/55) in 341 Matches
@VC the slogger
ahmedleo414
The Butcher
@VC the slogger missed his deadline, @blockerdave you have the next pick
blockerdave
ICC Chairman
I'll complete my top 6 with Roy Dias, of Sri Lanka and the 1980s, who will bat first drop.
That is a high quality top 6, and the bowling is very promising.
@VC the slogger still to pick, and @Aislabie is next
- Marcus Trescothick (2000)
- Charlie Hallows (1920)
- Roy Dias (1980)
- Dave Houghton (1990)
- Lee Irvine (1970)
- Karun Nair (2010)
- Frank Foster (1910)
- Hedley Verity (1930)
- Charlie Griffith (1960)
That is a high quality top 6, and the bowling is very promising.
@VC the slogger still to pick, and @Aislabie is next
Aislabie
Test Cricket is Best Cricket
Jack FingletonDecade: 1930s
Test stats: 1,189 runs @ 42.46 (5 centuries, best 136) in 18 matches
First-class stats: 6,816 runs @ 44.54 (22 centuries, best 167) in 108 matches
It goes against all my intentions, but the intensely unentertaining presence of Jack Fingleton will sit atop the batting order. Although I want a team of entertainers, I don't suppose there's all that much point if they don't have someone giving them the strike from the other end.
@Aislabie 's XI so far:
1.
Jack Fingleton2.
3.
4.
Seymour Nurse5.
Ross Edwards6.
Collie Smith7.
Percy Fender 8.
Ryan Harris9.
Fanie de Villiers10.
Shane Bond11.
Tony Gray@ahmedleo414
ahmedleo414
The Butcher
I am going with Jack Saunders played his first test in 1902 and final in 1908 so he is my pick from 1900s
Stats|Matches|Wkts| Ave|BBI|5w/10w
First-Class |107|553|21.81|8/106|48/9
Test |14|79|22.73|7/34|6/0
Here is his bio from cricinfo:
"John Victor Saunders will be remembered chiefly as a member of the Australian team of 1902, which toured England and South Africa under Darling's captaincy. He came over with a big reputation as a left-handed slow bowler, and, favoured as he was by a wet season, met with considerable success. In all matches he obtained 127 wickets for just over 17 runs apiece, and in the four Test Matches in which he took part he dismissed eighteen men at a cost of rather more than 26 runs per wicket. On turf which suited him he was undoubtedly a difficult bowler. Delivering the ball from a good height and getting on an appreciable amount of spin, his big break made him at times quite deadly, but his action was open to criticism. In the Test Match at Sheffield, when Australia played better all-round cricket than England and won by 143 runs, Saunders obtained five wickets for 50 in the first innings, but had 68 runs hit off twelve overs in the second innings without dismissing anybody. At Manchester, where Australia won a remarkable match by 3 runs, Saunders, on a ruined pitch, had much to do with the victory. Eight runs were wanted when Tate, the last man, joined Rhodes, and, having scored a 4 from the first ball he received from Saunders, he was bowled by the fourth which came with the bowler's arm and kept low. The Oval match was the one in which G. L. Jessop played his great innings of 104 after half the England side were out for 48. Saunders took four wickets in the second innings, the first three falling to him for 10 runs, but Darling undoubtedly kept him on too long, and he came in for severe punishment when Jessop was hitting in such terrific fashion. During the tour Saunders' most noteworthy bowling performance was in the second match against Surrey at the Oval when he took six wickets for 9 runs. Among his best performances on Australian wickets were:--
6 for 71, Victoria v. South Australia, at Melbourne 1899-00
6 for 90, Rest v. Australian team, at Sydney 1899-00
6 for 70, Victoria v. New South Wales, at Melbourne 1900-1
11 for 130, (including 6 for 57), Victoria v. New South Wales, at Sydney 1901-2
13 for 194, (including 8 for 106), Victoria v. South Australia, at Adelaide 1902-3
12 for 262, (including 7 for 122), Victoria v. New South Wales, at Sydney 1905-6
10 for 143, Victoria v. South Australia, at Adelaide 1906-7
6 for 61, Victoria v. New South Wales, at Sydney 1907-8
6 for 76, Victoria v. New South Wales, at Sydney 1909-10
In Test matches against England he obtained 64 wickets for 25-32 runs each, and against South Africa, 15 for 11.73 apiece. One of his analysis at Johannesburg was 7 for 34. After making his last appearance for Victoria he settled in New Zealand and played in representative games for Wellington."
My playing XI:
Ave|BBI|5w/10wFirst-Class |107|553|21.81|8/106|48/9
Test |14|79|22.73|7/34|6/0
"John Victor Saunders will be remembered chiefly as a member of the Australian team of 1902, which toured England and South Africa under Darling's captaincy. He came over with a big reputation as a left-handed slow bowler, and, favoured as he was by a wet season, met with considerable success. In all matches he obtained 127 wickets for just over 17 runs apiece, and in the four Test Matches in which he took part he dismissed eighteen men at a cost of rather more than 26 runs per wicket. On turf which suited him he was undoubtedly a difficult bowler. Delivering the ball from a good height and getting on an appreciable amount of spin, his big break made him at times quite deadly, but his action was open to criticism. In the Test Match at Sheffield, when Australia played better all-round cricket than England and won by 143 runs, Saunders obtained five wickets for 50 in the first innings, but had 68 runs hit off twelve overs in the second innings without dismissing anybody. At Manchester, where Australia won a remarkable match by 3 runs, Saunders, on a ruined pitch, had much to do with the victory. Eight runs were wanted when Tate, the last man, joined Rhodes, and, having scored a 4 from the first ball he received from Saunders, he was bowled by the fourth which came with the bowler's arm and kept low. The Oval match was the one in which G. L. Jessop played his great innings of 104 after half the England side were out for 48. Saunders took four wickets in the second innings, the first three falling to him for 10 runs, but Darling undoubtedly kept him on too long, and he came in for severe punishment when Jessop was hitting in such terrific fashion. During the tour Saunders' most noteworthy bowling performance was in the second match against Surrey at the Oval when he took six wickets for 9 runs. Among his best performances on Australian wickets were:--
6 for 71, Victoria v. South Australia, at Melbourne 1899-00
6 for 90, Rest v. Australian team, at Sydney 1899-00
6 for 70, Victoria v. New South Wales, at Melbourne 1900-1
11 for 130, (including 6 for 57), Victoria v. New South Wales, at Sydney 1901-2
13 for 194, (including 8 for 106), Victoria v. South Australia, at Adelaide 1902-3
12 for 262, (including 7 for 122), Victoria v. New South Wales, at Sydney 1905-6
10 for 143, Victoria v. South Australia, at Adelaide 1906-7
6 for 61, Victoria v. New South Wales, at Sydney 1907-8
6 for 76, Victoria v. New South Wales, at Sydney 1909-10
In Test matches against England he obtained 64 wickets for 25-32 runs each, and against South Africa, 15 for 11.73 apiece. One of his analysis at Johannesburg was 7 for 34. After making his last appearance for Victoria he settled in New Zealand and played in representative games for Wellington."
My playing XI:
- Vinod Kambli 1990s
- Chris Tavaré 1980s
- Eddie Paynter 1930s
- Bob Cowper 1960s
- Adam Voges 2010s
- Tony Greig 1970s
- ?
- ?
- Matthew Hoggard 2000s
- Jack Saunders 1900s
- Ernie Toshack 1940s
ahmedleo414
The Butcher
@VC the slogger missed his deadline, @Yash. you have the next pick
I’ll take one of my picks from another draft. Stewie Dempster. from 30s
[DOUBLEPOST=1589867710][/DOUBLEPOST]@ahmedleo414My pick would be Stewie Dempster
Arguable, the greatest batsman from New Zealand, ever.
With 723 runs from 10 tests at an average of 60, he holds one of the highest averages in Test crucket putting a 10 inning cutoff. Also, he made 2 centuries in test cricket.
He was a cosistent and dependable no. 4 in county cricket with over 12000 runs at an average of 45. He'll bat no. 4 in my team and follow up from the big platform set by Barnes and Kirsten.[DOUBLEPOST=1588709912][/DOUBLEPOST]@blockerdave
ahmedleo414
The Butcher
I am going with Albert Trott played his first test in 1895 and final in 1899 so he is my pick from 1890s
Stats|Matches|Runs|HS| Ave|100s/50s|Wkts|BBI|BBM| Ave|Econ|5w/10w
First-Class |375|10,696|164|19.48|8/44|1,674|10/42|?|21.09|2.96|131/41
Test |5|228|85*|38.00|0/2|26|8/43|9/110|15.00|2.46|2/0
Here is his bio from cricinfo:
"Albert Edwin Trott shot himself at his lodgings, Denbigh Road, Willesden Green, on July the 30th. He had been very ill for some time without hope of recovery and, finding the monotony of life in hospital intolerable, he thought a pistol shot the best way out. His death, in his 42nd year, was indeed a tragedy. At his best, Albert Trott was one of the greatest all-round men of his time. The misfortune was that he declined in skill so soon after reaching his highest point. There is nothing unkind in the statement that he ought to have had a much longer career. Born in Melbourne on the 6th of February, 1873, he sprang into fame by reason of his splendid cricket against Mr. Stoddart's England Eleven in the winter of 1894-5. At that time he was the most promising young cricketer in Australia. Against the Englishmen in eleven-a-side matches he scored 331 runs in nine innings and took 19 wickets. His greatest success was gained in the Test match at Adelaide in which he scored 38 and 72, both times not out, and took in the last innings of the game eight wickets for 43 runs. In the fourth Test match of the tour, played at Sydney, he scored 86 not out, but on a bad wicket his bowling was not required. It was taken for granted in this country that Albert Trott would come to England with the team captained by his brother in 1896 but, for some reason which has never been properly explained, he was not selected. Having been thus passed over by his own people, he came to England on his own account and, as everyone knows, qualified in due course for Middlesex. While qualifying for the county he played for the M. C. C., and in 1897 he had a record of 48 wickets for just over 14 runs each. In 1898 he began to play for Middlesex. Injuring his hand very badly in May, he lost a month's cricket and could not, when he started playing, do himself justice. However, when the injury had healed he lost no time in asserting himself, he and J. T. Hearne bowling in such irresistible form that in August Middlesex won eight matches out of nine and drew the other. In the whole season Trott took for Middlesex 102 wickets.
Following this good beginning, Trott went to the top of the tree, 1899 and 1900 being his greatest years. It would have been hard indeed in those two seasons to find a better all-round man. In first-class matches in 1899 he scored 1,175 runs and took 239 wickets, and in 1900 his figures came out at 1,337 runs and 211 wickets. Thanks to his bowling, his hard hitting, and brilliant fielding, and also his strong personality, he became for the time more popular at Lord's than any other professional. In those days his bowling was extraordinarily good and quite individual. Appreciably lower in delivery than most Australian bowlers, he had plenty of spin, but he depended less on break than upon an endless variety of pace. He rarely bowled two balls alike, and he could whip in his yorker at a tremendous speed. A long and very bright career seemed before him, but, unhappily, he soon began to fall off. Even in 1901, though he took 176 wickets, he was not quite the man he had been, and from that time he steadily declined. Becoming heavy and muscle-bound, he could no longer bowl the extra fast ball that had been so deadly, and batsmen ceased to fear him. In 1902-3-4 he still bowled well, but after 1904 he was only a shadow of his former self. In his benefit match against Somerset at Lord's on Whit-Monday, 1907, he came out with a last flash of greatness, taking four wickets in four balls, and finishing the game by doing the hat trick a second time in the same innings. This was a feat without precedent in first-class cricket. Trott played for Middlesex for the last time in 1910. His active career as a cricketer over, he became one of the county umpires, giving up the work early last season. His health was then so bad that he could go on no longer. One fact in Trott's career must not be forgotten. He was the only batsman who ever hit a ball over the present pavilion at Lord's. The great hit was made off Noble's bowling in a match between the M. C. C. and the Australians in 1899. Near the wicket, Trott was one of the best fieldsmen of his day, few catches that could be reached escaping his capacious hands. Appended are Trott's records in first-class cricket in England from 1898 to 1907.
"
My playing XI:
Ave|100s/50s|Wkts|BBI|BBM| Ave|Econ|5w/10wFirst-Class |375|10,696|164|19.48|8/44|1,674|10/42|?|21.09|2.96|131/41
Test |5|228|85*|38.00|0/2|26|8/43|9/110|15.00|2.46|2/0
"Albert Edwin Trott shot himself at his lodgings, Denbigh Road, Willesden Green, on July the 30th. He had been very ill for some time without hope of recovery and, finding the monotony of life in hospital intolerable, he thought a pistol shot the best way out. His death, in his 42nd year, was indeed a tragedy. At his best, Albert Trott was one of the greatest all-round men of his time. The misfortune was that he declined in skill so soon after reaching his highest point. There is nothing unkind in the statement that he ought to have had a much longer career. Born in Melbourne on the 6th of February, 1873, he sprang into fame by reason of his splendid cricket against Mr. Stoddart's England Eleven in the winter of 1894-5. At that time he was the most promising young cricketer in Australia. Against the Englishmen in eleven-a-side matches he scored 331 runs in nine innings and took 19 wickets. His greatest success was gained in the Test match at Adelaide in which he scored 38 and 72, both times not out, and took in the last innings of the game eight wickets for 43 runs. In the fourth Test match of the tour, played at Sydney, he scored 86 not out, but on a bad wicket his bowling was not required. It was taken for granted in this country that Albert Trott would come to England with the team captained by his brother in 1896 but, for some reason which has never been properly explained, he was not selected. Having been thus passed over by his own people, he came to England on his own account and, as everyone knows, qualified in due course for Middlesex. While qualifying for the county he played for the M. C. C., and in 1897 he had a record of 48 wickets for just over 14 runs each. In 1898 he began to play for Middlesex. Injuring his hand very badly in May, he lost a month's cricket and could not, when he started playing, do himself justice. However, when the injury had healed he lost no time in asserting himself, he and J. T. Hearne bowling in such irresistible form that in August Middlesex won eight matches out of nine and drew the other. In the whole season Trott took for Middlesex 102 wickets.
Following this good beginning, Trott went to the top of the tree, 1899 and 1900 being his greatest years. It would have been hard indeed in those two seasons to find a better all-round man. In first-class matches in 1899 he scored 1,175 runs and took 239 wickets, and in 1900 his figures came out at 1,337 runs and 211 wickets. Thanks to his bowling, his hard hitting, and brilliant fielding, and also his strong personality, he became for the time more popular at Lord's than any other professional. In those days his bowling was extraordinarily good and quite individual. Appreciably lower in delivery than most Australian bowlers, he had plenty of spin, but he depended less on break than upon an endless variety of pace. He rarely bowled two balls alike, and he could whip in his yorker at a tremendous speed. A long and very bright career seemed before him, but, unhappily, he soon began to fall off. Even in 1901, though he took 176 wickets, he was not quite the man he had been, and from that time he steadily declined. Becoming heavy and muscle-bound, he could no longer bowl the extra fast ball that had been so deadly, and batsmen ceased to fear him. In 1902-3-4 he still bowled well, but after 1904 he was only a shadow of his former self. In his benefit match against Somerset at Lord's on Whit-Monday, 1907, he came out with a last flash of greatness, taking four wickets in four balls, and finishing the game by doing the hat trick a second time in the same innings. This was a feat without precedent in first-class cricket. Trott played for Middlesex for the last time in 1910. His active career as a cricketer over, he became one of the county umpires, giving up the work early last season. His health was then so bad that he could go on no longer. One fact in Trott's career must not be forgotten. He was the only batsman who ever hit a ball over the present pavilion at Lord's. The great hit was made off Noble's bowling in a match between the M. C. C. and the Australians in 1899. Near the wicket, Trott was one of the best fieldsmen of his day, few catches that could be reached escaping his capacious hands. Appended are Trott's records in first-class cricket in England from 1898 to 1907.
"
My playing XI:
- Vinod Kambli 1990s
- Chris Tavaré 1980s
- Eddie Paynter 1930s
- Bob Cowper 1960s
- Adam Voges 2010s
- Tony Greig 1970s
- / Albert Trott 1890s
- ?
- Matthew Hoggard 2000s
- Jack Saunders 1900s
- Ernie Toshack 1940s
