I bought Ashes 2009 for PC off gamesplanet when it was released last year. So I was unable to play it with the betas. I do not have a PS3 or a XBOX 360.I was wondering if I should just get a hard copy of the game off ebay or something(which would work out to be around CAD$30) and use the beta patches. Would that pretty much come close to IC 2010 minus the action cam? Anyone who has played with the beta patches or knows a bit about IC 2010, let me know if it is worth going the abovementioned route.