Player burn out

[sohum]

Exactly, the ICC has no business meddling about with team selection. That should be encapsulated by the board. All the ICC can do is tell the board regulations in terms of matches per year, or a minimum rest required between series. If they try and control how much players play, they will only get themselves into trouble.

 

[andrew_nixon]

Exactly, the ICC has no business meddling about with team selection. That should be encapsulated by the board. All the ICC can do is tell the board regulations in terms of matches per year, or a minimum rest required between series. If they try and control how much players play, they will only get themselves into trouble.

The problem is, the ICC give out guidelines, and keep their FTP to those guidelines. Then the teams arrange more games on the side and complain about player burn out.

 

[cricket_lover]

I don't think the ICC should do any limiting. That should be up to players, selectors and coaches.

Look, selectors and coaches are going to have to start to have more players under their belts and rotate more and prevent it. Its not hard to give 1 player a few games off. Australia seem to be doing that (except they need to for Brett Lee NOW!!! and probably are going to)

i disagree...its the responsibility of the ICC and the representative cricket boards to check the number of games each team plays, and the gap they get in-between.

There is no point in having ICC..if they cannot do that.

Most major teams, including England, Australia, India, and Pakistan have tight schedules, and its the players who get affected.

 

[newzolt]

Maybe it's time the A teams get more attention and more tours and importantly more media coverage.

 

[Skater]

Different opinions are being added left, right and center in this thread and that's just what a forum is for. Discussion on a range of topics, sometimes turning into a hot debate. Player burn out is an issue that has raised its head more so recently than it has before and it is really a difficult thing to find a solution for because you need to do something that will please both parties, in this case the broadcasting companies and the players.
As andrew_nixon rightly says, Marcus Trescothick and Shahid Afridi are prime examples of player burn out in recent times. Trescothick seems to want family connections to be more available, and Afridi just wants to concentrate on one part of the game and improve his technique and way of doing things.
The only solution I can see to the first problem is limiting winter tours to just one. England's winter tours over late 2005 and early 2006 have been in Pakistan and India. Don't get me wrong, they look like wonderful countries with great cricket teams and tremendous culture, but the fact is the players don't like being away from home for so long and playing so much cricket. You can give the teams five star hotels and anything they requested for the entirity of the tour but it's just not the same as being at home.
So if England had only toured Pakistan this winter then the players would have a good few months to recharge the batteries, see family and friends and generally live life before starting work again. After the break, the players would begin training again and maybe play a few domestic matches, increasing the popularity of domestic cricket early on in the season and increasing demand for television coverage of it.
Shahid Afridi's solution is extremely difficult. Just what to do? You could call me a cricket traditionalist in saying that I enjoy test cricket and believe it to be the best form of the game, but others may see it the other way around and just like to play one-dayers. Fine. But Shahid Afridi as far as I know has never expressed a want to temprorarily retire from test cricket, he's rather been forced to. He really wanted to play a few domestic one-day matches in my opinion, work in the nets on his attacking ways but still continue playing tests for Pakistan. Trouble is that whenever a test series is over, Afridi doesn't have much time to work on his one-day game as another back-to-back test series is normally no more than three weeks away. That's my opinion on it though.
All in all, I don't think that there is many ways to cater for the players needs whilst rolling in the cash for the television companies at the same time. Fact is though, the governing body has to do something about this issue sooner or later or the true greats like Brian Lara, Sachin Tendulkar, Glenn McGrath and Shane Warne may be forced to retire a lot sooner than planned.

 

[cricket_lover]

Different opinions are being added left, right and center in this thread and that's just what a forum is for. Discussion on a range of topics, sometimes turning into a hot debate. Player burn out is an issue that has raised its head more so recently than it has before and it is really a difficult thing to find a solution for because you need to do something that will please both parties, in this case the broadcasting companies and the players.
As andrew_nixon rightly says, Marcus Trescothick and Shahid Afridi are prime examples of player burn out in recent times. Trescothick seems to want family connections to be more available, and Afridi just wants to concentrate on one part of the game and improve his technique and way of doing things.
The only solution I can see to the first problem is limiting winter tours to just one. England's winter tours over late 2005 and early 2006 have been in Pakistan and India. Don't get me wrong, they look like wonderful countries with great cricket teams and tremendous culture, but the fact is the players don't like being away from home for so long and playing so much cricket. You can give the teams five star hotels and anything they requested for the entirity of the tour but it's just not the same as being at home.
So if England had only toured Pakistan this winter then the players would have a good few months to recharge the batteries, see family and friends and generally live life before starting work again. After the break, the players would begin training again and maybe play a few domestic matches, increasing the popularity of domestic cricket early on in the season and increasing demand for television coverage of it.
Shahid Afridi's solution is extremely difficult. Just what to do? You could call me a cricket traditionalist in saying that I enjoy test cricket and believe it to be the best form of the game, but others may see it the other way around and just like to play one-dayers. Fine. But Shahid Afridi as far as I know has never expressed a want to temprorarily retire from test cricket, he's rather been forced to. He really wanted to play a few domestic one-day matches in my opinion, work in the nets on his attacking ways but still continue playing tests for Pakistan. Trouble is that whenever a test series is over, Afridi doesn't have much time to work on his one-day game as another back-to-back test series is normally no more than three weeks away. That's my opinion on it though.
All in all, I don't think that there is many ways to cater for the players needs whilst rolling in the cash for the television companies at the same time. Fact is though, the governing body has to do something about this issue sooner or later or the true greats like Brian Lara, Sachin Tendulkar, Glenn McGrath and Shane Warne may be forced to retire a lot sooner than planned.

good post

Not just Afridi or trescothick, but the reoccuring injuries to premier players around the world is also another result of tight schedules and tours.

The bottom line is, cricket isn't everything. Cricket being a sport, you'll be spending more time practicing, in the nets, fitness programs, tours and regular (and domestic) games. You have to give the human body a break, and no matter how many physios you've got, its still going to take toll.

Its just not physical (which itself is a major problem), its also psychological. You do not want to stay away from home for a long time, as isthe case with England.

Its high time ICC and the cricket boards do something about it. If not, you'll see more people reaching the threshold of their cricketing career...sooner than expected.

 

[angryangy]

So... rotation policy?