Puddle Mafia 02 - Game over - Sedition wins - 3rd Party Win

[Gaurav_7]

I can't find the Mayor role on epic or scum, so don't know what it's powers are.

Mayor/Governor can stop a lynch, I think. But, I was just thinking if we go by the actual sense. A town which has a Mayor and people listen when he speaks. Just that.

 

[Abhas]

This was his town. It would always be his town. The history books were inked with the blood of past pretenders. He was determined to avoid the mistakes of those that perished before. Perhaps, this time, subtlety would prove more successful than brute force?

I agree with User here (sigh!), It seems like the godfather. His town seems to imply he wants to rule the town, and I don't think any town role fulfills this description. Also, the mention of brute force for me is Godfather.

He knew the returning rain meant only one thing. His services would soon be required. His absence last time had cost many lives. This time he hoped to serve his oath.

Does the returning rain imply anything? Looks like the doctor.

It was a tough job. The streets of Duckton were always a cruel place to patrol. At least now he could earn some overtime.

Cop, probably with an additional role at day?

He had always been an important member of the community. His voice meant a lot to many people. When he spoke, they listened.

Town persuader/influencer. Possibly a double voter as Sedition pointed out.

He wasn't like most residents. The clouds had brought him enough respite to surface once again. His path was drowned in twilight, his loyalties equally shady.

Serial Killer or Survivor. Definitely individual aligned. I don't think there would be a cult.

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The important member could be a politician. They can buy a person's vote at night. Sort of a persuader.

 

[Themer]

Not much else to add to what has been said but I was under the impression that the overtime line was just in relation of the fact the cop will now be working at night rather than just doing his normal job. Rather than it relating to an extra ability, if you get my jist.

First person to claim BD is getting lynched.

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Also with User/Abhas. Sounds like the GF rather than anything town.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

Maybe the subtle part refers to that perhaps the GF has got a poison ability rather than just a pure kill one. Otherwise, agree with Sedition's analysis.even a

He wasn't like most residents. The clouds had brought him enough respite to surface once again. His path was drowned in twilight, his loyalties equally shady.

Is it me, or does the wording imply a vampire? Is that even a role? Let me look it up.

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Nopes, no vampire role.

Gotta stop playing Dawnguard

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The twilight phrase is interesting though. Is there a role that only works when the day's about to end, but before the Night phase?

 

[Themer]

Vampire - MafiaWiki

Sounds very plausible to me actually. Especially the shadyness over alignment.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

I used the link PD had in the opening post. But yeah, it seems very plausible.

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How would it work though? Surely if someone's died, we would know about it. Unless the vampire rule only implies if he's killed, not lynched.

Nothing else to go on atm.

 

[ved_]

1. Previous game
2. Mafia GF, "past pretenders" suggests it.
3. Doctor? I don't recall there being a doctor in puddleduck's last game.
4. Cop
5. Governor?
6. Vampire seems a good explanation.

Apart from all that,
Lynch:yoki

 

[puddleduck]

Vote Count

Yoki (1) - Zhuorb

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

Will say 48 hours left in this first day period.

 

[Themer]

Any reason for that lynch at all? Other than he hasn't posted an analysis of the write up?

I hate first days but randomly lynching someone doesn't make any sense to me. As always I'm very wary of a first day lynch unless someone has said something a bit odd. The odds are massively against us getting town first up without any results to speak of.

Gentle FOS: Zhuorb

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Getting mafia*

 

[Sedition]

The vampire thing seems to fit pretty well with the write-up, but I think it's one of those roles that's impractical for these types of games. As Smurf said, we'll know if a player that's supposed to be dead resurfaces.

I was thinking along the lines of a mafia traitor or similar role with the shady alignment. Or an alignment changing 3rd party, like the Politician. Could fit if a Governor has also been included.

 

[ved_]

There is absolutely no reason for that lynch Themer. That was just a pressure vote. When I get some legitimate reads, I'll switch my vote.

 

[Varun]

I mostly agree with what you all have posted, although I will post my views of some select paragraphs.

It was a tough job. The streets of Duckton were always a cruel place to patrol. At least now he could earn some overtime.

Patrol suggests cop. The second sentence refers to the fact that Duckton had been living in prosperity with little crime. Not sure on the third sentence, but my best bet is that it only shows that the cop now will have to work at night. Maybe he has a day role, but is that not unlikely?

He had always been an important member of the community. His voice meant a lot to many people. When he spoke, they listened.

Governer, as User suggested. Could be DV or even Triple voter (I remember a Triple Voter being there in a recent game), since there's nothing to contradict it as well.

He wasn't like most residents. The clouds had brought him enough respite to surface once again. His path was drowned in twilight, his loyalties equally shady.

Some shady figure with a 'shady loyalties' which implies he is probably a 3rd party role. What type of third party role, I'm not sure, but it isn't necessary he switches his alignment midway in the game after the trigger of some specific event. Will have to wait.

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There is absolutely no reason for that lynch Themer. That was just a pressure vote. When I get some legitimate reads, I'll switch my vote.

Zhuorb, your aggressive approach to the game always makes me suspicious of you. But this time, I'll be patient.

 

[Themer]

Yeah Vampire probably doesn't fit too well for a game mechanics point. Twilight reference then probably relates to a night role then. The alignment seems to point as being third party as things stand.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

Vampire could work in a 9 set-up if the other factions are balanced enough to accomodate a fluctuating alignment role. And the death-idea could possibly work if it applies only if the vampire is night-killed and PD doesn't reveal a death in the morning.

But I highly doubt it's in the game though. a) It's a bitch to balance it into a 9 player game and b) The link to the roles in PD's first post doesn't mention a vampire. Only thing going for it is the write-up, so it may be just a coincidence.

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There is absolutely no reason for that lynch Themer. That was just a pressure vote. When I get some legitimate reads, I'll switch my vote.

Brilliant logic

Guy hasn't posted yet and you're already lynching him on Day 1 of a small player game. I'm usually all for random Day 1 lynches, but not if it's such a small game. What if the mafia band-wagons on Zhuorb, and the lynch goes ahead? What if he turns out to be a doc or cop?

 

[Sedition]

As usual, I overlooked some of the information available Was looking at the roles on epic and scum, when PD already said they're all from mikeburnfire.

The Politician outlined on mbf is just a pro-town role and not an alignment changing one, so can rule that out as the potential 3rd party, but could still fit as the influential figure.

So after most people's input, I'm looking at:

9 players - 2 mafia, 3rd party and 6 town. Same basic setup as PD's previous game, new pieces (players) and some different roles.

"New pieces adorned the board, but was the game even still the same? Did the pawns still have a part to play, or was this an altogether more dangerous game?"

Pawns suggests vanillas, so probably 2 of them on our side.

GF
Mafia
3rd Party
Cop
Doctor
Governor/Vote influencing role
Another town role not yet mentioned?
2 vanillas.

Now that that's out of the way, where's Yoki and BKB? The latter really knows how to test my patience, and my failure to get him lynched last game when he was mafia still haunts me.