Solution to England?s Woes?

[Griffo]

and before that??? how did you go england played that series well

BUT

England didnt win the ashes

Australia lost them

 

[puddleduck]

and before that??? how did you go england played that series well

BUT

England didnt win the ashes

Australia lost them

*runs babel fish translator*

*translator explodes*

Ah right I think I see, your just an Aussie who wants in anyway possible to put England down. That no matter what, you think you know best, and that you really have no knowledge on any subject at all.

*leaves thread and stops wasting his time*

 

[MUFC1987]

The sad thing for English cricket is that instead of aussies going to england when an english player goes to australia like geraint jones and ian salisbury they play grade cricket

Oh dear. Do you not realise how many countless numbers of first class players from around the world play for local club sides in England? That means a game every weekend, maybe two at most. Yet they still come.

 

[Griffo]

dont get cranky just because you lost a debate i want to see england competitive but this sort of form will always come around if nothing changes pontings decsion to bowl lost us one match mcgrath suffered a freak injury and many more things

Callum Thorp plays club cricket in australia and played first class cricket for the star producing durham so why cant it go the other way round in australia

 

[puddleduck]

And the weather denied us a clear win at Old Trafford.. and we lost SiJo our best bowler in the series for the last test. And we are missing a ton of players for this series. And... and... and.... and.... and.... and.....

As MUFC has just posted below me, you really don't have a clue do you? It's the little things, and your complete lack of knowledge on any subject that you have posted on in this thread is why I "have lost this debate"

 

[BigCrickNan]

Callum Thorp plays club cricket in australia and played first class cricket for the star producing durham so why cant it go the other way round in australia

Because we have 3 times as many teams?

 

[puddleduck]

If you really want answers to your questions, well MUFC has answered why English players have gone to Australia and not played 1st class cricket.

Regarding Callum Thorp, Durham would have needed cheap cover because they lost so many bowlers, non England contracted, to the national side and squad. They therefore couldn't afford to splash out on a high quality international bowler, so they took a punt on someone cheap who was willing to come and play.

Australians are as I'm sure you're aware always mighty keen to come to England. They earn good money in comparison to back home, and they get to spend the majority of their time buying drinks off their own countrymen so they don't feel homesick.

English players on the other hands often have jobs during the winter season, they go through university and play for their Uni sides and it is not always feasible to go abroad to play cricket if they have families or work related commitments.

 

[Griffo]

England prepared and worked the ass off for that series and Australia came in cocky in a way you could compare our tour of england to your current tour of australia but the facts are that this tour of australia hasnt really been that different to the others its just that everybodys expectations of the english cricket team are much higher after the ashes win

 

[puddleduck]

The fact of the matter is England outplayed Australia for the majority of that tour and deservedly won, Australia outplayed England for the majority of this tour and won. There are no two ways about it :

 

[Griffo]

Because we have 3 times as many teams?

AND THATS WHY THE STaNDARD OF CRICKET IS LOWER IN ENGLAND AND THATS WHY THEY NEED A STRONGER COMPETTION your english commentators get it why cant you

Australians are as I'm sure you're aware always mighty keen to come to England. They earn good money in comparison to back home, and they get to spend the majority of their time buying drinks off their own countrymen so they don't feel homesick.

English players on the other hands often have jobs during the winter season, they go through university and play for their Uni sides and it is not always feasible to go abroad to play cricket if they have families or work related commitments.

so what your saying is that australians dont go to university and they dont have families??

 

[Kev]

I would have thought the main reason English players dont play in Australia at the top level is probably more down to the fact that they've just played a long season of English Domestic Cricket (Something like 42 games iirc) so they are looking a bit of a break while keeping there game up to a reasonable standard and arent looking for another full season.

 

[puddleduck]

so what your saying is that australians dont go to university and they dont have families??

Yes, that's what I'm saying :

 

[JamesyJames3]

Mate, use your common sense. The county game isn't costing the England team, the players themselves are. Half of them don't play games for their counties so why should that be a reason for them being exhausted. The county system is fine as it is, and there is no clear solution to change it for the time being.

Like Jeremy said, we won the Ashes on the back of a full county season, so what's the point in changing it?

 

[Sureshot]

and before that??? how did you go england played that series well

BUT

England didnt win the ashes

Australia lost them

Australia didn't win the ashes.

England lost them.

Hmmm...somethings not quite right.

 

[puddleduck]

It was at that point Sureshot, that I gave up taking the argument seriously