Spot Fixing Scandal Thread: The Legend Continues

At least Saed Ajmal was confirmed to be an honest guy. That celebration when he made his 50 makes so much more sense now.
 
Well the one good thing about the video is the fact that we know there are players like Afridi and Younis who have definetly not been involved in this. Its time people look into these players and specifically someone like Younis as the hero.

World Cup preparation looks in absolute shambles. Judging at the rate we are going, we are likely to have a completely new XI by then :p
 
I think Inzamam and (more importantly) Bob Woolmer had Pakistan going in the right direction. Whether Bob's death was accidental or a result of foul play, we will never know. But one thing is for sure - these problems wern't happening during his time (as well as Inzy's).

Inzamam has alot of critics (especially in Pakistan) but I think alot of people would give anything to have that time back.

Especially considering he led Pakistan to many famous victories with medicore teams.

Now we don't even know whose going to be in the team in 2 months. From the Sydney Test to the Abu Dhabi / Dubai tests, there was only 1 player who featured in both XIs: Umar Gul. This sums up Pakistan cricket in the last year or so.
 
I have always maintained that Akmals are cheats. I blame the PCB for this mess. Top Officials of PCB must have been involved in all of this considering how they continued to select the worst wicket keeper in the history of the game.
 

Cheats. Ban the lot. 7 out of 11 players? For more than 50% of a team to be involved is just a disgrace.

Last I heard, Zulqarnain Haider was in well-founded fear for his life and those of his family members. There are some REAL criminals involved in this, and the more focus placed on punishing the players, the more they chuckle to themselves on the way to the bank.

As with the drugs trade, it's the 'pushers' and potential murderers we ought to be after, not the addicts or the mules (or even the 'recreational users'...). While the multi-billion dollar gambling (in other words organized crime) syndicates and industry exists, they will always be able to find new players - and boards - to buy.

As for the players, let's have a sense of proportion as to their alleged offences. The destruction of players' careers is a punishment that does not fit the 'crimes'. Again, look at Haider. He's effectively under a life ban at the moment isn't he - and that's for being NOT guilty. Wholesale banning of players benefits no-one. Destroying the Pakistan team for a decade is too much of an attack on the fans and the game to be a just solution.
 
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Last I heard, Zulqarnain Haider was in well-founded fear for his life and those of his family members. There are some REAL criminals involved in this, and the more focus placed on punishing the players, the more they chuckle to themselves on the way to the bank.

As with the drugs trade, it's the 'pushers' and potential murderers we ought to be after, not the addicts or the mules (or even the 'recreational users'...). While the multi-billion dollar gambling (in other words organized crime) syndicates and industry exists, they will always be able to find new players - and boards - to buy.

As for the players, let's have a sense of proportion as to their alleged offences. The destruction of players' careers is a punishment that does not fit the 'crimes'. Again, look at Haider. He's effectively under a life ban at the moment isn't he - and that's for being NOT guilty. Wholesale banning of players benefits no-one. Destroying the Pakistan team for a decade is too much of an attack on the fans and the game to be a just solution.

Agreed that the problem is much bigger than just these players. They are just a very small part of it. However, I just feel cheated as a cricket fan. It makes me angry that I could be/could have watched an entire match that was fixed or had elements in it that were fixed. It insults my intelligence and wastes my time.
 
Last I heard, Zulqarnain Haider was in well-founded fear for his life and those of his family members. There are some REAL criminals involved in this, and the more focus placed on punishing the players, the more they chuckle to themselves on the way to the bank.

As with the drugs trade, it's the 'pushers' and potential murderers we ought to be after, not the addicts or the mules (or even the 'recreational users'...). While the multi-billion dollar gambling (in other words organized crime) syndicates and industry exists, they will always be able to find new players - and boards - to buy.

As for the players, let's have a sense of proportion as to their alleged offences. The destruction of players' careers is a punishment that does not fit the 'crimes'. Again, look at Haider. He's effectively under a life ban at the moment isn't he - and that's for being NOT guilty. Wholesale banning of players benefits no-one. Destroying the Pakistan team for a decade is too much of an attack on the fans and the game to be a just solution.

I think it is easier to curb the spread among roughly 20-30 players than bring the whole bookies syndicate down. As for threats on life is concerned, well that is part and parcel of becoming powerful, whether you are a sportsman, an actor, politician or businessman.

There is always risk involved once you become very successful. Now it is up to you whether you want to side with criminals or keep your noses clean.

Zulqi has taken a bold step, cause I am pretty sure Afridi & Younis knew about this. That is why Younis stepped down midway and similarly Afridi withdrew from Tests as well. Afridi and Younis are powerful enough to have taken the same step, but there are so many factors involved that we can't blame them.
 
"Amir's no-ball greatly surprised me " - Waqar

Was browsing Cricinfo, and this article caught my eye. Interesting stuff, I think.

"Pakistan coach Waqar Younis has told the ICC Code of Conduct Commission that Mohammad Amir's infamous no-ball during the Lord's Test had surprised him "greatly" because it was very different from his normal delivery stride. He said he'd taken up the issue with the bowler, only for the then captain, Salman Butt, to intervene before Amir could reply.

"I was so surprised by the delivery that when we went back into the dressing room at the end of that morning session I said to Amir in Punjabi, 'What the hell was that?'. But before Amir had the chance to answer my question, Salman interrupted from across the dressing room, saying: 'I told him to do it because the batsman was coming on the front foot. I told him to come forward and bowl him a bouncer'."

Spot-fixing controversy: 'Amir's no-ball greatly surprised me' - Waqar | Pakistan Cricket News | ESPN Cricinfo

What are your views on this new story ?
 
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