Wasn?t he like out from the test team for a long period of time though?
Underachievers an Overachievers in World Cricket.
- Thread starter max_dillon2007
- Start date
Wasn?t he like out from the test team for a long period of time though?
Not the biggest, but I guess he is around somewhere there, had lot of problems off the field, and on. Although, what I admire about him is that he is passionate for the game and has good skills without any reasonable doubt.
usy added 2 Minutes and 40 Seconds later...
Correction; ODIs.
He is always in the Test Squad though.
yeah something like that cause, Yuvraj Singh was picked over him most of the time though.
max_dillon2007
School Cricketer
Michael bevan and Yuvraj singh(Under achievers in Test Cricket)
max_dillon2007 added 0 Minutes and 34 Seconds later...
I hope yuvi's test career wont turn out like bevan's.
max_dillon2007 added 0 Minutes and 34 Seconds later...
I hope yuvi's test career wont turn out like bevan's.
metallics2006
International Coach
- Joined
- May 15, 2005
- Location
- Chennai
Yuvraj has over achieved in test cricket already. Has scored more test runs than his class should have allowed him too. An ODI specialist who has outrageously been allowed to play Test cricket ahead of players like Badrinath, Tiwary, Rahane etc.
max_dillon2007
School Cricketer
Come on, Yuvi aint that bad. There are a lot of players like Yuvi who had suceeded in Test cricket despite having a flashy technique. Take Brian Lara and Jayasuriaya for example. In fact Yuvi has almost similar technique to Lara. Their backlift,initial movement, everything is just carbon copy. Yuvi is just a little lazy in his footwork than lara . Thats the only difference in their technique. Though lara had one more thing which made him class. His determination and his very good cricketing mind. Thats what Yuvi is lacking at the moment. Its not his technique.
Dare
Chairman of Selectors
also Lara had supreme talent, hand eye coordination, foot work and was just a better over all cricketer.
jontyrhodes
School Cricketer
- Joined
- Mar 18, 2009
- Online Cricket Games Owned
-
maz_dillon
OK
Yuvraj Singh + footowork = BRIAN CHARLES LARA
OK
Yuvraj Singh + footowork = BRIAN CHARLES LARA
max_dillon2007
School Cricketer
I am not comparing Yuvraj with lara. Lara is >>>>> Yuvi. Yuvi has miles to go before seeing Lara's Shadow. I used lara as an example to show that players with Flashy,dangerous technique can also succeed big time. When they suceed they are bowlers nightmares like Lara,Sanath,Hayden,Gilchrist... The list just goes on.
max_dillon2007 added 1 Minutes and 2 Seconds later...
Damn, how come i forgot Sehwag
. The poster boy of Footwork-Doesnt-Matter Club
max_dillon2007 added 1 Minutes and 2 Seconds later...
Damn, how come i forgot Sehwag
. The poster boy of Footwork-Doesnt-Matter Club
Dare
Chairman of Selectors
yes but does Yuvraj have the talent to develop even close to those guys.
max_dillon2007
School Cricketer
I guess this is not the right thread for that. You should have a look at the Best batsman in next decade thread. yuvi has been discussed a lot there.
For this thread another Overachiever: Mohammed Kaif
For this thread another Overachiever: Mohammed Kaif
metallics2006
International Coach
- Joined
- May 15, 2005
- Location
- Chennai
Piss off back to your downloads section max. Come back when you are older and when you have learnt more about cricket.
King Pietersen
ICC Board Member
- Joined
- Nov 15, 2006
- Location
- Manchester
My Over-Achievers XI:
Virender Sehwag- No foot movement whatsoever, but blessed with superb hand-eye co-ordination, and the mental strength to make massive innings' on flat decks. Given his technique alone, he has over-achieved.
Marcus Trescothick- Same as Sehwag. Little footmovement, but his superb hand-eye co-ordination, power and ability to hit over the top allowed him to develop into a successful batsman.
Rahul Dravid- A very talented batsman yes, but not as naturally gifted as his average would suggest. He's lucky he's been blessed with such patience and detirmination, as without that he'd have most probably failed at Test level.
Steve Waugh- No hook shot, no pull shot, but the concentration to outlast any bowling attack. Waugh was another that grafted his way to Test runs, and was incredibly successful at doing so.
Paul Collingwood- Another in the same mould as Dravid. Not particularly naturally gifted, but has worked immensely hard on his game, and managed to develop a techinque that works for him and allows him to graft his way to Test and ODi runs. He's definitely over-achieved.
Nasser Hussain- Grafted to make as many runs as he did, again with not a huge amount of natural talent.
Andy Flower- Flower was a gifted batsman, not a great keeper, but a gifted batsman, but his overachieving comes from the fact he played for a woeful Zimbabwe side, which only won 7 of the 63 Tests that Flower played.
Anil Kumble- Took an immense haul of wickets, with decent leg-spin, but he as no Shane Warne. He got the ball to turn a little, mixed up his pace quite well, but never appeared to look particularly threatening. Managed to take alot of wickets though.
Courtney Walsh- Didn't have the pace or ferocity of his partner Curtley Ambrose, but was the more successful of the 2 bowlers, taking more wickets and finishing his career as the 2nd most successful fast bowler in the history of the game.
Makhaya Ntini- Ntini isn't the quickest, he's not the most accurate, he doesn't get the ball to really do much in the air, but has still managed to chalk up 388 Test victims. It's Ntini's strange angle that has led to the majority of his wickets, and considering it's almost impossible for him to get an LBW of a left hander from over the wicket, I think he's done pretty well!
Matthew Hoggard- A flawed action (bowling round his arse) leads to not a great deal of pace, but Hoggard still managed to take alot of wickets for England with his swing. Never looked particularly threatening when it wasn't swinging, but even at his pace he managed to take alot of wickets. Well done to him.
Sure I've forgotten a few people, but they're the ones I could come up with, plus a little help from a Cricinfo article I found. Was far more difficult than the modern underachievers.
Virender Sehwag- No foot movement whatsoever, but blessed with superb hand-eye co-ordination, and the mental strength to make massive innings' on flat decks. Given his technique alone, he has over-achieved.
Marcus Trescothick- Same as Sehwag. Little footmovement, but his superb hand-eye co-ordination, power and ability to hit over the top allowed him to develop into a successful batsman.
Rahul Dravid- A very talented batsman yes, but not as naturally gifted as his average would suggest. He's lucky he's been blessed with such patience and detirmination, as without that he'd have most probably failed at Test level.
Steve Waugh- No hook shot, no pull shot, but the concentration to outlast any bowling attack. Waugh was another that grafted his way to Test runs, and was incredibly successful at doing so.
Paul Collingwood- Another in the same mould as Dravid. Not particularly naturally gifted, but has worked immensely hard on his game, and managed to develop a techinque that works for him and allows him to graft his way to Test and ODi runs. He's definitely over-achieved.
Nasser Hussain- Grafted to make as many runs as he did, again with not a huge amount of natural talent.
Andy Flower- Flower was a gifted batsman, not a great keeper, but a gifted batsman, but his overachieving comes from the fact he played for a woeful Zimbabwe side, which only won 7 of the 63 Tests that Flower played.
Anil Kumble- Took an immense haul of wickets, with decent leg-spin, but he as no Shane Warne. He got the ball to turn a little, mixed up his pace quite well, but never appeared to look particularly threatening. Managed to take alot of wickets though.
Courtney Walsh- Didn't have the pace or ferocity of his partner Curtley Ambrose, but was the more successful of the 2 bowlers, taking more wickets and finishing his career as the 2nd most successful fast bowler in the history of the game.
Makhaya Ntini- Ntini isn't the quickest, he's not the most accurate, he doesn't get the ball to really do much in the air, but has still managed to chalk up 388 Test victims. It's Ntini's strange angle that has led to the majority of his wickets, and considering it's almost impossible for him to get an LBW of a left hander from over the wicket, I think he's done pretty well!
Matthew Hoggard- A flawed action (bowling round his arse) leads to not a great deal of pace, but Hoggard still managed to take alot of wickets for England with his swing. Never looked particularly threatening when it wasn't swinging, but even at his pace he managed to take alot of wickets. Well done to him.
Sure I've forgotten a few people, but they're the ones I could come up with, plus a little help from a Cricinfo article I found. Was far more difficult than the modern underachievers.
max_dillon2007
School Cricketer
great work dan
max_dillon2007 added 5 Minutes and 48 Seconds later...
Underachiever XI
Shahid Afridi
Vinod Kambli
Yuvraj Singh
Michael Bevan
Ian Bell(should have an test avg of atleat over 50 with the kind of potential he has)
Robert Key( where is he, i remember that he scored a century in his debut test and performed a lot better in first series of his career)
Tatenda Taibu
Mashrafee Murtaja
Nathan Brackan
Murali Karthik
Shaun Tait
max_dillon2007 added 0 Minutes and 37 Seconds later...
Underachiever XI
Shahid Afridi
Vinod Kambli
Yuvraj Singh
Michael Bevan
Ian Bell(should have an test avg of atleat over 50 with the kind of potential he has)
Robert Key( where is he, i remember that he scored a century in his debut test and performed a lot better in first series of his career)
Tatenda Taibu
Mashrafee Murtaja
Nathan Brackan
Murali Karthik
Shaun Tait
max_dillon2007 added 5 Minutes and 48 Seconds later...
Underachiever XI
Shahid Afridi
Vinod Kambli
Yuvraj Singh
Michael Bevan
Ian Bell(should have an test avg of atleat over 50 with the kind of potential he has)
Robert Key( where is he, i remember that he scored a century in his debut test and performed a lot better in first series of his career)
Tatenda Taibu
Mashrafee Murtaja
Nathan Brackan
Murali Karthik
Shaun Tait
max_dillon2007 added 0 Minutes and 37 Seconds later...
Underachiever XI
Shahid Afridi
Vinod Kambli
Yuvraj Singh
Michael Bevan
Ian Bell(should have an test avg of atleat over 50 with the kind of potential he has)
Robert Key( where is he, i remember that he scored a century in his debut test and performed a lot better in first series of his career)
Tatenda Taibu
Mashrafee Murtaja
Nathan Brackan
Murali Karthik
Shaun Tait
Cricketman
ICC Chairman
- Joined
- Jul 27, 2005
- Location
- USA
Sachin's an underachiever, with all the talent he has he could've been better then Rhodes in the field, a Gilchrist with the gloves, a Warne with leggies and a Lee with pace and swing. What an idiot. 
