WC2007: Super 8

[Sureshot]

Me too, still looks fallible at times (like tonight) but overall he's done well. Though he's not going to be in Asia in four years time is he?

 

[Mars Maximus]

Ok so after my last post here, I turned off my pc, and went to enjoy the cricket. I saw Vaughan hit some nice shots, and was happy he was seeming to find some touch, then he went out. Of course I saw Bell get out in a skier as well. But then KP came in and I was real excited, and with Nel bowlin, I thought it was gonna be a ripper. Then KP get's out cheaply. It was around 1245am my time at that time, and I was lying on the couch half asleep watching Strauss (who played some fine shots earlier), and Collingwood play, and I could't hack it anymore, due to tiredness, and went to bed. Now I see England have lost. I'm sorry England are out. I mean i'm sorry for the fans of the English cricket team, you guys deserve better....

 

[Dare]

am i so wrong to think that if you are good in tests but suck in odis that you shouldn't play ODIs. why cant england do what australia did with Clark and just not play him because he is not made for ODIs. Vaughan obviously isn't cut out to play ODI cricket so he shouldn't be playing. but also full blame doesn't fall on him because like a few other teams in the VC he didn't have the best side with him.

 

[Master Khan]

am i so wrong to think that if you are good in tests but suck in odis that you shouldn't play ODIs. why cant england do what australia did with Clark and just not play him because he is not made for ODIs. Vaughan obviously isn't cut out to play ODI cricket so he shouldn't be playing. but also full blame doesn't fall on him because like a few other teams in the VC he didn't have the best side with him.

Yeah But Vaughan is a good Captain thats wht he plays.

 

[aussie1st]

Looks like that SA bowling attack was having it's on day and boy did Hall come to the party.
150 is never enough when you have Smith going crazy scoring 80s in 50 balls.

This is probably the end of Vaughan in the ODI arena, being a great captain but average opener just isn't good enough for this day and age.

 

[irottev]

What a hammering. England should have beaten South Africa.

I say never bat first on these surfaces if you can help it. Mind you, I doubt it would have changed much. Maybe SA would have posted a 300 score.

 

[Dare]

This is probably the end of Vaughan in the ODI arena, being a great captain but average opener just isn't good enough for this day and age.

yea thats what i mean, just being a great captain shouldn't guarantee you a spot in the team. if he is a great captain than maybe england can have 2 captains, Vaughan in tests and someone else in ODIs. I know its not greatly practised in cricket but it might work.

 

[aussie1st]

The way SA were going looked like they could have posted 400 with Smith making a double 100.

yea thats what i mean, just being a great captain shouldn't guarantee you a spot in the team. if he is a great captain than maybe england can have 2 captains, Vaughan in tests and someone else in ODIs. I know its not greatly practised in cricket but it might work.

The Aussies did this twice in their transition stage first with Mark Taylor/Steve Waugh then Waugh/Ponting. For England they have to do it as Vaughan's ODI record just isn't good enough. Strauss looks like a good captain so I would the captaincy to him.

 

[Justcrazy]

Ohh boy, Hall joins the party as well...come on SA!!!! Lets take revenge in Semi for 1999 and knock Aussie out of the WC Final. SA should bat first against AUssie and set target around 300 and ask pollock to do the early damage...come on boys.

 

[Stephen Bailey]

Strauss looks like a good captain so I would the captaincy to him.

Agreed.

A lot of pundits seem to be of the opinion that he is the same type of player as Vaughan, Joyce and Bell. To a certain extent they are, but in my opinion he is far more positive than those three, he is always looking for the opportunity to cut, pull and drive. I'll never forget a couple of his innings during the NatWest series against Pakistan, especially his 50 at the Rose Bowl, where he used he feet and smashed Asif through the covers and mid-wicket.

 

[irottev]

I don't know why England dropped Joyce when he actually has an ODI hundred. He's better then Vaughan.

Strauss for captain. Drop Vaughan.

 

[MUFC1987]

Meh, we got as far as our ranking and generally our players suggested, the good news is that most of the team is young, so they should all be around to have a crack in a few years time.

Anyways, at least I can get to enjoying the cricket now. A Sri Lanka V South Africa final would be great, just because it means that Australia and New Zealand won't be able to win it.

 

[aussie_ben91]

Give Pietersen ago at the captaincy. Maybe then he'll stop playing stupid selfish shots when it isn't required.

 

[irottev]

To be fair, it was required really. He was 3 off 15 and his side was going very slowly.

 

[BigCrickNan]

Vaughan: "I'm not quitting ODI's" What a pleb, I hope they drop him.