WC2007: Super 8

irottev said:
And good news for NZ fans and probably Aussie fans. Malinga is out of at least these 2 games.

http://content-nz.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/289943.html

Ankle Tear. It's obviously a shame for Sri Lanka and Malinga, he's going to be out for the biggest 2 games of the Super8's, but hey, we've had our fair share, it's about time other sides have players out for a while ;)

Yeah its a real shame coz the kiwis really struggled with him. Fernando and vaas are bowling well and of course murali. I hope they play bandara the leggy if its a turning track. The loss of Malinga means that we have to put a really good total on the board if we bat first. Even a par score can be a good score with 3 matchwinning bowlers, murali, vaas and malinga. But with only 2 not as much. Sangakkara needs to click hasn't scored much in the Super 8s.
 
A wins a win. It beats losing ;)

Big match tonight for us. I think we have a good chance. We've played Sri Lanka a lot over the last few years and without Malinga their bowlingwill be a bit less powerful. Hopefully Taylor and Gillespie return. That would be my team, same as the last with them 2 in for Marshall and Patel. (presuming they're ready)

So England and SA can fight it out for 4th place. West Indies will be playing to give Lara a nice send off and SA will be playing for their spot. I doubt it will be made easy for England so they're going to have to put in some good performances.
 
Too bad Bangladesh couldn't put a little more on the board. Have to congratulate on their showing in this tournament. And their team was the youngest at the WC by a few years. I can see them becoming a very strong team in the future.
 
Yeah Exactly, If given the right resources and correct training facilities and funding, in my opinion, theres no reason why they cannot be a superpower like India or Pakistan? Its a large country (147 Million!) that is cricket mad and have good spirit.

Sure most of there batsman are not World-Class, but they are young, and are sure to improve. There bowling, particularly in ODIs is magnificent. They have some decent swing bowlers at the top there, and there middle over bowling is very impressive, as there spinners slow the run rate and also take handy wickets! Just look at some of there bowling stats om www.cricinfo.com ! Most of them have good economy.

Whenever I here the Bangladesh cricket team, all i think about is there dancing after a wicket, there high-pitched voices screaming in joy and there bowlers always smiling:)
I love watching the Bangladeshis play, and would prefer to watch a game of their cricket apposed to someone like England (just an example), who are a team with poor spirit (when they're down and out).
 
Well the fact that they've gone further than both India and Pakistan rather diminishes the superpower tag, but the Tigers are starting to gain some real talent, and within a few years we could see them up in the mid table and real contenders.

irottev said:
A wins a win. It beats losing ;)

Big match tonight for us. I think we have a good chance. We've played Sri Lanka a lot over the last few years and without Malinga their bowlingwill be a bit less powerful. Hopefully Taylor and Gillespie return. That would be my team, same as the last with them 2 in for Marshall and Patel. (presuming they're ready)

So England and SA can fight it out for 4th place. West Indies will be playing to give Lara a nice send off and SA will be playing for their spot. I doubt it will be made easy for England so they're going to have to put in some good performances.
New Zealand look quite strong now, I had the top 4 down as Australia, Sri Lanka, South Africa and The West Indies, with NZ at 5th or 6th but they look the second best team in the comp at the moment. We could easily see a Trans-Tasman showdown in the final.
 
Bangladesh bowling definitely is a strength of theirs as they have shown through this WC. Some good pace bowlers in their side along with some very good spin bowlers. Once they get their batting sorted they will be a tough team to beat.
 
i know its odi cricket but in test matches australia always would stumble chasing a small target maybe its the thought that its too easy and then you crash and burn
 
Well the opposition know they have nothing to lose so they go all out attack which usually wouldn't be the case for an average target.

Also depends on the mindset that the batters come out with. If they go out trying to blast the total off they could lose a few wickets. If they go defence then it depends on what the pitch is doing.
 
aus5892 said:
New Zealand look quite strong now, I had the top 4 down as Australia, Sri Lanka, South Africa and The West Indies, with NZ at 5th or 6th but they look the second best team in the comp at the moment. We could easily see a Trans-Tasman showdown in the final.

If not in the final, how about a trans-tasman semi final clash on ANZAC day???

Will be a good match nonetheless :boxing
 
Bangladesh for WC Winners?

Hey, it could happen, they can easily beat Ireland, and an upset vs the Windies is always on (seeing how deplated they look these days)

So Bangladesh would have 6 points, would this mean they go through to the Semis, provided SA lose to England and New Zealand?

Or is there something I'm forgetting?

And of course, once they get to the Semis, they can go all out, since their Super 8 performances don't matter at this stage :happy

EDIT: Just looking at the points table, England have to beat SA, but lose to West Indies, then Bangladesh have to beat Ireland and West Indies.

Hmm....

Or, if Sri Lanka lose all their remaining matches, this Super 8 stage becomes even more intersting, and opens up the possibility of Bangladesh sneaking through to the Semi Finals! :onpc
 
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sohummisra said:
Too bad Bangladesh couldn't put a little more on the board. Have to congratulate on their showing in this tournament. And their team was the youngest at the WC by a few years. I can see them becoming a very strong team in the future.

This WC certainly has illustrated the strength and true ability of Bangladesh which proves those doubters wrong that they shouldn't be playing at the top level. I expect Bangladesh to do well also in the 2011 WC where of course the conditions will be much more favourable and "at home". The great advantage Bangladesh have is that they only have IIRC 2-3 players over the age of 30 whereas other teams such as Australia, India and Sri Lanka have about half their team over the age of 30. It's about time Bangladesh get the recognition they deserved for years and hopefully more test teams are willing to play against Bangladesh and also Ireland who have also shown promise in the WC.

jimo7 said:
If not in the final, how about a trans-tasman semi final clash on ANZAC day???

Will be a good match nonetheless :boxing

I can't see Aus and NZ playing each other in the semis as NZ and Aus are most likely to finish 1 and 2, question is who going to top it. My predicted semis matches will be Aus v SA and NZ v Sri Lanka.
 
This BD team was unknown identity to most of the teams till this WC. That's the one reason they are doing well. Once the other teams sort out their bowling, they will be back to their old 'standards'.Yesterday England exploited their batting weakness by bowling short of a length deliveries. SAF bowled poorly to them by feeding them with half volleys.I hope other teams will not repeat the mistake that SAF did.

Latest points table:

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New Zealand	4	4	0	0	1.73	8
Australia	4	4	0	0	1.51	8
Sri Lanka	4	3	0	1	1.55	6
South Africa	5	3	0	2	-0.2	6
England	        5	2	0	3	0.08	4
West Indies	5	1	0	4	-1.21	2
Bangladesh	5	1	0	4	-1.43	2
Ireland	        4	0	0	4	-1.39	0
 
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Sagacious said:
This BD team was unknown identity to most of the teams till this WC. That's the one reason they are doing well. Once the other teams sort out their bowling, they will be back to their old 'standards'.Yesterday England exploited their batting weakness by bowling short of a length deliveries. SAF bowled poorly to them by feeding them with half volleys.I hope other teams will not repeat the mistake that SAF did.
Meanwhile, they didn't return the favour to South Africa, so some credit must be given somewhere.

The actual problem for South Africa in terms of bowling was that when Mohammad Ashraful and Aftab Ahmed came to the crease, they were content to let them get settled, probably figuring that they'd just hole out somehow. There were no slips in place and so they both went about dabbing singles to third man. It wasn't the couple of half volleys that Aftab Ahmed launched into the stands, it was all those good length balls that went to waste.

In spite of England having put in what seemed to be an outstanding bowling performance, the Bangladeshi Sakib Al Hasan was still able to do what even the mighty English couldn't do; score a half century. He adds another impressive performance to his short career and maintains his name high on this list.

Bangladesh do have considerable talent as a team of very young cricketers, many of which would be considered too young for regular first class cricket in some countries. These teams they have defeated aren't idiots. It's a joke to say they are unknowns in this day of DVD post match analysis. South Africa don't have to wait until Bangladesh come to their shores, they can watch any of their matches. The plans would be laid if only to ensure that the method of laying plans is effective.

Now that said, I don't believe it should be so easy to make it through to the Super 8s. The Super 6 structure was better (and more interesting), although it must be said, the bottom half of the draw is so mediocre, Bangladesh may well have made it through on their merits. Still, it's not necessary for the development of their game that they play these matches; success at the World Cup should be the end result of the hard work; the work shouldn't begin at the World Cup. This goes the same for any other team. If Australia play bad cricket, they shouldn't make it through the group stage either. Increasing the pool to 8 lowers that yardstick, because if the expected sides are out of form, we get semi-professional sides like Ireland.

In my opinion, this is where the T20 Championship could fill a niche. We could have less associates at the World Cup, but balance that by having more at the T20. There's no chance of it running as long as the World Cup, plus it can be a more unpredictable format so the spectators are pleased. The small teams get this "exposure" that people keep talking about, while the World Cup is toughened up for the seasoned pros.
 
KP could reach 2,000 ODI runs during his 50th ODI, that's impressive. Certainly should do it before his 50th ODI innings.
 
masterkhan06 said:
I think Vaughan is a Test Player

True,he should'nt be playing the short-version of the game.He is excellent in Tests,but somehow he always seems to cook it up in ODI's.He does remind me of Nass Hussain.Huss got a hundred against India in the Natwest Final which they sadly lost.
 

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