Ponting's fall from stratospheric heights

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He has done enough to be one of the leading contenders for Cricinfo's Player of the Decade title, but Ricky Ponting himself will admit that over the last three years he has been significantly less than prolific. During a period in which batsmen have generally made merry, Ponting has scored only five hundreds in his last 32 Test matches - a rate of one every 6.4 matches - while the average has dropped to a distinctly ordinary 41.44. Contrast this with his stats in the first seven years of the decade - an average of 65.73, and a rate of a hundred every 2.81 Tests over 76 matches.

Due to this relative slump, Ponting's overall average has dropped around five points during this period. The peak point (in terms of end-of-match average) came after the second Test of the Ashes series in 2006, when he made 142 and 49 to boost his career average to 59.99. One more run would have lifted his average to 60, but he never reached that high thereafter, and over his next 34 matches it has fallen to 54.79. Ponting is far from finished as a top-class batsman, but it's unlikely his average will ever reach those peaks again.

A disappointing feature of his batting during these three years has been the inability to convert fifties into hundreds, a malaise that has afflicted the entire Australian team this summer. During his peak period, Ponting made 27 centuries and 26 fifties, but in the last three years he has scored almost three times as many half-centuries as centuries. The ratio of Tests to 50-plus scores isn't that different (1.43 then, 1.68 now), but the uncharacteristically poor conversion has meant the average has slipped significantly.

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A heap of tables you can find in that link. This also coincides with our constant collapses that have been occurring for the past 3 years. It wasn't really noticeable until last year as the other batsmen picked up the slack and keep us away from the big collapses.

The good thing for Ponting is most of his dissmal has been his own doing mainly through his pull shot so it comes down to concentration. He seems to drop off after making a 50 and if he does end up with a 100 he usually gets out soon after.
 
He's been batting too impatiently. We saw in the Third Test v WI, how badly we collapse without him.

Also, his performances have gotten worse as a series goes on. He makes a big score in the first game, and then there's nothing for the rest of it.
 
I was in two-minds whether to start a thread on these lines or not, given the general perception. But well, glad you did it. :)

Ponting has been on a poor run against a few teams since the past 3 yrs, as the stats point out. People will soon start calling for his head (if they already haven't, don't know much abt the Oz media), like they did with Steve Waugh & Sourav Ganguly. When you are a non-performing captain, it becomes complex as people constantly put you under the scanner if a known prolific run-scorer in the domestic circuit is vying for a place in the national team and persistence with you denies him that opportunity.

People may say that its time for Ponting to go. but the key question here is that- "If Australia drop Ponting, who replaces him"?

I think Ponting needs some time off like Dada did.
 
Actually most of the time he gets out he gets out to a shaky drive/block at off stump as he edges it to slip.

This is exactly his weakness.... a full, outswinging delivery pitching on or just outside off stump, or a left arm bowler pitching in the same place and angling the ball away from him. Its been his weakness for a while, but perhaps with his slowing reflexes its becomming harder and harder for him to hide. The "short ball weakness" is probably being exaggerated by his injury preventing him from playing the classic ponting pull shot.

Having said that, he is an awesome batsman even still, and i wouldnt even think about dropping him from the side anytime in the immediate future. Remember, form is temporary, class is permanent.
 
I think Ponting needs some time off like Dada did.
We would fail without him. Replacements are the last problem we have, the thing is the order can't hold itself together without him.

He'll take a break from the ODIs and come back. Hopefully, he'll be fresh and can take it to the Kiwis.
 
Rest Ponting and bring in Hodge, maybe?

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We would fail without him. Replacements are the last problem we have, the thing is the order can't hold itself together without him.

Australia seems to be turning into the Indian team of the 1990s where the entire pressure and stuff was on Sachin Tendulkar. If he's out, there is complete disarray. This is something that must be avoided by Australia. They have decent players that they can get in.

I, just like anyone else, wouldn't like Australia depending on Ponting much. He needs some time off. Get Hodge in maybe. That should take the pressure of perform or perish off Ponting a bit, maybe
 
Hodge is retired! And resting Ponting probably won't help him.

Although, a move from the No. 3 spot wouldn't bee too bad. You could move Clarke to three, and Ponting to four, with Hussey pushed to five. Or even Katich to three, Ponting to four, Hussey to six and Hughes to open with Watson, in the case of North being dropped.
 
How about getting Shaun Marsh in? That boy has some talent! I said this in another thread yesterday - Marsh opens with Watto, Punter 3, Katto 4, Clarkey 5, Huss 6 followed by Haddin and the tail.

That is one bloody good line-up.

If Punter is rested, maybe we can bring Phil in place of him in say, the middle order or No.3?
 
He's in a bit of a form slump. He'll probably come out of it. He may never be at his best again but he's still a very good player.
 
and he is possibly playing with a slightly injured elbow from the West Indies series. Australia and the Aussie fans have gotten a bit greedy and got used to Ponting scoring the majority of runs and centuries in a series. No batsman can keep that up and he has started to cool of. He is 34? and coming towards the end of his career he cant keep it up forever.
 
Why are Phil Jacques and Chris Rogers not in contention for the Baggy Green anymore? Especially Rogers who has an outstanding FC record but got only 1 Test against us.

Maybe he can bat at No.3 if Ponting's form becomes a serious issue!
 
Age Brah! Here we don't really stick with 20+ if they're not performing.

Like Martyn, Langer, Hayden....
 
Actually most of the time he gets out he gets out to a shaky drive/block at off stump as he edges it to slip.

Its actually a mix of the pull, out to a spinner, bowled and what you mentioned.
And even before the elbow injury Ponting would get out to the pull shot, it might inhibit him a bit more now but its not like its a new thing for him.
 

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