General Cricket Discussion

[wasteyouryouth]

 

[asprin]

If a batsman who can occasionally roll his arm over is called a part-timer (Eg Sehwag, Yuvraj Singh etc), what do you call a bowler who could ocassionally bat (Eg Chaminda Vaas, Brett Lee etc)?

 

[pillowprocter]

If a batsman who can occasionally roll his arm over is called a part-timer (Eg Sehwag, Yuvraj Singh etc), what do you call a bowler who could ocassionally bat (Eg Chaminda Vaas, Brett Lee etc)?

'handy' is how the commentators usually put it. i've also heard 'no mug with the bat' multiple times

 

[Till Valhalla]

If a batsman who can occasionally roll his arm over is called a part-timer (Eg Sehwag, Yuvraj Singh etc), what do you call a bowler who could ocassionally bat (Eg Chaminda Vaas, Brett Lee etc)?

Is this the information you putting in your new sim?

 

[asprin]

Is this the information you putting in your new sim?

There's nothing sliding past you, is it?

 

[ddrap14]

Okay, so yesterday in the IPL thread I noted that I think more and more franchises will be looking at players who have shone in second tier T20 tournaments around the world (or are yet to break out in their first, in the case of somewhere like Australia who don't have a national second tier LO comp). So, who could the next Spencer Johnson, Paul Walter, or Riyan Parag be? Here's a few suggestions from each nation:

- I could only find BBL stats. Of last year's crop, I'd say Xavier Bartlett already is one in the IPL, and Hilton Cartwright and Ben Dwasrhuis also kinda fit.
- Michael Pepper (535 runs at 45 with a SR of almost 200 in the Blast is surely too good to go unnoticed for long), Aneurin Donald (he hit at a SR of 200 this Blast season), Matt Taylor (29 wickets at 14... only uncapped player above 25), David Payne (remains underrated as hell despite consistent good returns), Nathan Sowter (should have a BBL deal with his name written on it given his Aussie citizenship)
- competition ongoing although I'd have said Parag, Abhishek, Vishnu Vinod, Harvik Desai and Suyash Sharma last year
- Ross Adair (only Lorcan Tucker matched him in the provincial tournament this year and he smashes them in T20Is too), Cade Carmichael and Tim Tector (both are more Promising Young Player than Moneyball Player but they are the best left fit)
- Tim Robinson (perhaps more of a future star but the only batsman that really fits), Jayden Lennox (underrated left arm spinner), Ben Lister (plays for NZ sure, but never in franchise cricket, which is a shame), Bevon Jacobs (the glaring example of this on an IPL level, as a rare uncapped signing at this year's draft; he's a future superstar finisher)
- Shahab Khan is one, but Pakistan picked the rest of last year's already for their T20I side (Sahibzada, Kamran Ghulam, Omair bin Yousuf). So watch the space
- Edward Moore (appears to have learnt overnight how to bat in T20s), Jean du Plessis (not Faf but surprisingly close in terms of averages), Junaid Dawood (easily the best bowling record in the CSA Cup this year)
- Kamil Mishara (battered the provincial tournament as the clear best batsman in bowler friendly conditions), Dushan Hemantha (really deserves more praise at the T20 level, especially for his bowling), Binura Fernando (a fast bowler in T20 with an economy of 7 is quite rare)
- records seem not to exist of anything below the CPL

 

[Paranoid Kendroid]

Sri Lanka ouch! This one's for the history books

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Crikey, just saw the Sri Lanka score

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Sri Lanka ouch!

Jinx

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Not just a low score but all out in 14 overs. The second fastest in history.

 

[pillowprocter]

3000 (projected, with the current schedule) - Zimbabwe vs Pakistan @ Harare, 3 December 2024

So according to Cricinfo, I seem to have gotten this wrong and this match is only #2998. Instead, it looks like match #3000 will be either Argentina vs Bermuda or Suriname vs Panama on Dec 6, as they start at the same time

 

[cricfan123]

Cricketers can they play decent in baseball? What you guys think?

 

[ddrap14]

Cricketers can they play decent in baseball? What you guys think?

I think it depends on the player. I don't think any bowlers would because pitching is so incredibly different to bowling (unless you're Ian Meckiff) but I could see a batsman like Josh Brown or Dre Russ finding the ability to hit some absolute nukes there, and I also think a proper defensive wicketkeeper could do a job as a glove-first catcher. If I had to nominate a bowler, it's be someone like AJ Tye who has a lot of variations to his release and grip.

 

[Aislabie]

Cricketers can they play decent in baseball? What you guys think?

The fundamental attributes are transferrable, but the key skills are so specialised that neither player would be able to easily move to the other's sport.

Both cricket and baseball require the batter to react to a ball travelling towards them faster than human physiology actually allows them to react to. The reason they are each able to hit their respective ball is because they have spent years getting to know the pre-delivery cues that can be taken from a bowler or pitcher that allow the brain to start reacting before the ball has actually been released.

If one simply tried to switch sports one day then the player has absolutely no experience to help them understand what ball is coming. As a result, the player would have no more chance of hitting the ball than a reasonably athletic person off the street would do.

If you've ever tried to face a bowling machine after years of never having done so you will have a similar experience because there are no visual cues to go off.

Additionally, I have edited and moved your post so that it better conforms to our posting standards. Please remember that not every thought needs to be a new thread in future

 

[Neptune]

WI vs Bangladesh today is absolutely the best cricket match I've watched in a while. It's had everything and is still so open
Anyone who has some time, put it on in the background; it's genuinely peak test cricket

 

[Viper.]

We're getting awfully close to T20I #3000, and I noticed there's not really any place you can see a list of 'milestone matches' in international cricket, so I thought I'd keep up a list here myself:

Men's Tests:
0001 - Australia vs England @ Melbourne, 15 March 1877 (Australia won by 45 runs)
1000 - Pakistan vs New Zealand @ Hyderabad, 25 November 1984 (Pakistan won by 7 wickets)
2000 - England vs India @ London, 21 July 2011 (England won by 196 runs)

Women's Tests:
0001 - Australia vs England @ Brisbane, 28 December 1934 (England won by 9 wickets)

Men's ODIs:
0001 - Australia vs England @ Melbourne, 5 January 1971 (Australia won by 5 wickets)
1000 - England vs West Indies @ Nottingham, 24 May 1995 (West Indies won by 5 wickets)
2000 - Pakistan vs Zimbabwe @ Sharjah, 10 April 2003 (Pakistan won by 8 wickets)
3000 - England vs Australia @ Southampton, 22 June 2010 (England won by 4 wickets)
4000 - PNG vs Hong Kong @ Harare, 17 March 2018 (PNG won by 58 runs)

Women's ODIs:
0000 - New Zealand vs Jamaica @ London, 20 June 1973 (No result)
0001 - Young England vs Australia @ Bournemouth, 23 June 1973 (Australia won by 7 wickets)
1000 - South Africa vs New Zealand @ Kimberley, 13 October 2016 (New Zealand won by 9 wickets)

Men's T20Is:
0001 - New Zealand vs Australia @ Auckland, 17 February 2005 (Australia won by 44 runs)
1000 - India vs Bangladesh @ Delhi, 3 November 2019 (Bangladesh won by 7 wickets)
2000 - Spain vs Isle of Man @ Cartagena, 25 February 2023 (Spain won by 8 wickets)
3000 (projected, with the current schedule) - Zimbabwe vs Pakistan @ Harare, 3 December 2024

Women's T20Is:
0001 - England vs New Zealand @ Hove, 5 August 2004 (New Zealand won by 9 runs)
1000 - Hong Kong vs Nepal @ Dubai, 22 November 2021 (Hong Kong won by 6 wickets)
2000 - Greece vs Serbia @ Marsa, 25 August 2024 (Greece won by 79 runs)

The actual fact that 1000th t20i took 14 years and the next 1000 took 4 years is so damn evident of today’s cricket world

Although majorly it is because all associates have t20i status now (easily inflates every year to have 15x the matches) , even the full member t20is have visibly gone up by miles

For ex Malinga took a decade to become top t20i wicket taker at 110 or so wickets and most players didn’t have more than 70-80

Now 2019 debut Adair and 2020 debut Rauf have like 100 wickets, Malinga isn’t Even top 3, Southee who was at 80-90 before Malinga retired is now at 150 because he continued to play. Arshdeep debuted in 2022 and has 90 wickets

5 match series is one real reason but even frequency of hosting t20 series has gone up