General Cricket Discussion

[wasteyouryouth]

WI vs Bangladesh today is absolutely the best cricket match I've watched in a while. It's had everything and is still so open
Anyone who has some time, put it on in the background; it's genuinely peak test cricket

Shaping up to be a good day today

 

[Bigby Wolf]

The actual fact that 1000th t20i took 14 years and the next 1000 took 4 years is so damn evident of today’s cricket world

Although majorly it is because all associates have t20i status now (easily inflates every year to have 15x the matches) , even the full member t20is have visibly gone up by miles

For ex Malinga took a decade to become top t20i wicket taker at 110 or so wickets and most players didn’t have more than 70-80

Now 2019 debut Adair and 2020 debut Rauf have like 100 wickets, Malinga isn’t Even top 3, Southee who was at 80-90 before Malinga retired is now at 150 because he continued to play. Arshdeep debuted in 2022 and has 90 wickets

5 match series is one real reason but even frequency of hosting t20 series has gone up

Also teams using their 2nd string side to play more T20 games in between a big Test or ODI series which wasn't the case before.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Good article by Steven Finn. Similar 'rules' probably apply elsewhere in other countries whether it's to pace bowlers or spinners.

Brydon Carse: Steven Finn on why England fast bowlers are performing better at international level than county cricket

Steven Finn explains why fast bowling in Test cricket is different to county level and why England are looking beyond the numbers when making selections.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Supreme General]

It’s another practical example of why you shouldn’t pick players for test and international cricket just based on raw numbers. You’ve got to watch their style and look at the underlying numbers underneath that can translate to test cricket success. This is the moneyball system in motion and the way all professional sport has moved towards either kicking and screaming in some cases and with open arms in others. You can say what’s the point of county cricket if you don’t pick based on performances but that couldn’t be further from the truth, you do get picked based on county performances it’s just the goalposts have changed.

 

[Paranoid Kendroid]

So Bedingham got dropped twice and still could only score 6 runs. And he got out trying to loft the spinner Prabath.

 

[Na Maloom Afraad]

So the Global Super League happened, and Rangpur won.

Anybody give a shit?

 

[ddrap14]

So the Global Super League happened, and Rangpur won.

Anybody give a shit?

I'd give a shit about the hilarious lineups if not for the Nepal league out-hilariousing them

 

[wasteyouryouth]

So the Global Super League happened, and Rangpur won.

Anybody give a shit?

Sonny Baker looks like a prospect but that's about it

 

[Na Maloom Afraad]

So, what's the official reason given by the ICC for Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan's exclusion from the WTC?

 

[wasteyouryouth]

So, what's the official reason given by the ICC for Zimbabwe, Ireland and Afghanistan's exclusion from the WTC?

I assume it comes down to money. Ireland have cancelled tests and even first class tournaments because they can't afford to run them. To count for a series in the WTC it has to be at least two matches and you have to find competition to play those matches. I expect Zimbabwe are in a similar position. You also need three teams willing to host you for a two test match series that are unlikely to be profitable to them. So, they are left in this kind of limbo of being test playing nations but playing very little test cricket. Afghanistan is probably similar although I don't think they should have test status anyway.

While the WTC is based around the FTP rather than the other way, it is unlikely to change. That or having a significant centralised funding model that sustains test cricket to an extent.

I also think finding room in the calendar for three more teams hosting and being hosted by the existing teams would be a challenge, so I believe they'd have to rethink the format.

 

[GuyIncognito]

I'd give a shit about the hilarious lineups if not for the Nepal league out-hilariousing them

Man did you see their AI generated logo? Literally hit generate first time and probably called it a day lol

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Looking for pictures of Allan Lamb for Cricket 24 thing. At least three instances of him in drag.

 

[Paranoid Kendroid]

Something which I always wanted to try was try to make a list of every cricketer that can be considered "good". Not just in terms of international career but also in domestic, provided they are not some one pitch bully or they did exceedingly well domestically and shat the bed in internationals. What would be the best way to proceed for achieving this goal?

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Something which I always wanted to try was try to make a list of every cricketer that can be considered "good". Not just in terms of international career but also in domestic, provided they are not some one pitch bully or they did exceedingly well domestically and shat the bed in internationals. What would be the best way to proceed for achieving this goal?

You'd need to define your criteria for 'good' first. I was playing around with a 'Greatest player' calculator thing recently, to define some best XIs for countries. I had about half a dozen different metrics that I considered a good indicators where you could compare players - even though I think comparing players, for example from the 1920s and 2020s, is not necessarily straightforward.

There's obvious things like average, number of centuries and total runs scored (I do think longevity is something that people underate). There's other ones like 'percentage of innings where they scored 100' which is not necessarily a perfect way of defining if a player is good but more that they can reach a significant milestone by which fans judge a player (on the face of it, we'd potentially judge a batter with ten 100s and 40 ducks in 50 innings better than they guy with 25 99s and 25 ducks).

I then gave each player a ranking based on those metrics and the person with the lowest overall ranking is the best.