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    England in New Zealand

    Um, you guys won't need 2 days, just 2 hours (or 1 session). CONGRATS ENGLAND!!!!!!!!! Your top order batsmen justified their averages and batted like a champ! As for us...... Well, let's start pretending we are in the selection and coaching panel and do some post-mortem of where this side...
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    England in New Zealand

    Ruthlessness comes from experience. Nobody steps into international cricket being ruthless to start with. Legends are not born, they are made. Dennis Lillee and Hadlee are bowling greats. When bowling greats see potential in a bowler because he exhibits similar actions to them, you take notice...
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    England in New Zealand

    Daniel Flynn (23) Jesse Ryder (23) Corey Anderson (U19 just 17 yrs bats like Cairns) My squad for the tour. 1. Jamie How 2. -------------> Daniel Flynn (potential) / Jesse Ryder - injured 3. Peter Fulton 4. Ross Taylor 5. Greg Hay 6. Jacob Oram 7. Brendan McCullum (vc) 8. Daniel Vettori (c)...
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    England in New Zealand

    To be fair, he's not there to hold the innings together. The TOP 3 are supposed to be. Oh my god Fleming retiring... OH MY LORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We'll die. England will win.
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    England in New Zealand

    I'll add him to the "keep getting injured" category. MAY I add the WHOLE series thus far, the only players to show any sort of class are Sidebottom and Fleming.
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    England in New Zealand

    They prob got told, if you dont win this test, you're out. Bye bye pay check... On that note:.... Greg Hay pack your bags, Grant Elliot pack your bags, Matthew Sinclair, Matthew Bell - unpack your bags. In fact GET THE f**k OUT! Braces announces his squad straight after the series loss to...
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    England in New Zealand

    FLEMING... RIght on cue YET again. Another failed conversion to 100. I'm perplexed. -_-
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    England in New Zealand

    How many tests have New Zealand played in the last 5-6 years compared to other top 5 countries? Also take into account the green pitches we went through during the 90s.
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    England in New Zealand

    I'm not cricket expert, but I do spend considerable amount of time researching and reading other people's comments about pitches and how any particular game is going. Southee won't fade away because of his natural action. It's also about demeanor. So far, I have not seen a Jesse Ryder in him and...
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    England in New Zealand

    Well Hadlee experienced a mental breakdown in 1983 before coming back to international cricket. Cricket in New Zealand has always been like the poor cousins of rugby. We are desperate for success, we love our cricket. But we can't seem to elevate cricket to the heights of India, Pakistan and...
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    England in New Zealand

    More swing this morning guys (day 2) I'm excited to see Southee swing it! I really hope that we have unearthed another bowler the elk of Hadlee for the New Zealand side. This kid will break records, fantastic attitude, and has the fortitude and the right support to make it. Since Hadlee...
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    England in New Zealand

    That's on assumption that your country has a lot of depth and talent coming through. New Zealand bowling stocks are so damn lucky to have Hadlee. Now there's Southee. He won't get dropped, probably wont be great, but he won't get drop because we don't have any real depth, in fact it's razor...
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    England in New Zealand

    :clap England is also rebuilding in some ways. Their top order batting of Cook, Bell, K P are all 25 to 27-ish. Still young, and a lot of potential. They also are developing Broad. REALLY early days, but Southee has the temperament from the interviews I've heard to be really good. He's got...
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    England in New Zealand

    If anybody knows enough about cricket, can anyone list debutant seamers who made dream starts like Southee has today. Got KP out in 20 20 and now his third wicket today. Goodness gracious 2 3 4 batsmen belongs to the kid.
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    England in New Zealand

    The great Wasim Akram got his start in international cricket tests like that. From schoolboy coming into the nets to bowl for batsmen to practise, ended up the best bowler of all the seniors, and got picked for starting 11.
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    England in New Zealand

    Well that'll even up the balance of the side. Collingwood has been like Flintoff for you guys. Bats well, and takes crucial wickets when he bowls. Oram is out, so really, to balance it out, Collingwood is too. Crucial Matchups: Southee Versus Broad bowling pedigree. Youngsters with...
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    England in New Zealand

    Agreed with you vaibhav. Another thing against the Black Caps is, I have never heard of debutants making a name for themselves in the their first game in the side, unless you're being held in the same regard as Shane Warne or a Murali. Most of the other bowlers tend to graft and grind and get...
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    England in New Zealand

    Test team lineup announced for Black Caps: 1. Jamie How 2. Matthew Bell 3. Stephen Fleming 4. Matthew Sinclair 5. Ross Taylor 6. Grant Elliot 7. Brendan McCullum 8. Daniel Vettori 9. Tim Southee 10. Jeetan Patel 11. Chris Martin
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    England in New Zealand

    OH DEAR..... "Oram ruled out of decider Mar 21, 2008 Michael Burgess Star all-rounder Jacob Oram was ruled out of the third test against England on Friday due to a niggly hip injury. South African-born Grant Elliot will make his debut for the Black Caps in the match which begins on...
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    England in New Zealand

    Great team there nz0003. I hope they don't pick Gillespie. If they do, it's between Southee or Patel. And I want both of those guys in.
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