18.03.09: Vatican Victors @ Beijing Blitzers

[barmyarmy]

Like I said in the other team thread DD won despite the bug...

 

[Biggy]

How can the people with bowling average 99 can bowl? : Yusuf Pathan and Vintners? They have given 37 runs in 2 Overs. With Bowl Avg 99, obviously you can expect this only to happen!

As a captain of BB, I am refusing/rejecting to accept this match and it's result!

If the people with bowling average 99 comes to bowl two crucial overs,

End of over 23 (7 runs)
VATICAN VICTORS 133/1

End of over 25 (14 runs)
VATICAN VICTORS 170/1


As a captain, I REJECT this match strongly. We can't see the bowlers with bowling average 99 to come and bowl. :onpc Especially for the teams which are in bottom of the table, its not fair.

I wouldn't be complaining about those two overs, I'd be consulting Pathan on over 24 when he went for 23 runs, it was his fault you lost.

 

[naresh091]

Disappointing result for BB.The simulator is pretty poor tbh.
We too had the same problem.Thank God we won.

 

[surendar]

Like I said in the other team thread DD won despite the bug...

So at the end of the day, there is no solution for this other than moving forward with the bug with tag name, " Unfortunate" behind us?

This is affecting our position in table as well. Loosing 2/2 indeed makes us to push into MUST WIN scenario in next coming games.

Ok colin anyways BB team still has to get justification, if suppose tomorrow, there comes a scenario like BB team can still qualify for the next stage but missed by one match winning point i.e some close stage... at that time we wanted a rematch and based on the result, outcome to next stage has to be calculated.. Atleast this deal has to fair!

The other team won despite the bug will have no problems.. because they won. For us, it's not only lost points, but also the NRR and the bottom most position in the table! We have to think the impact in all the angles right? Not just one team got, they won, so lets move ahead!

I wouldn't be complaining about those two overs, I'd be consulting Pathan on over 24 when he went for 23 runs, it was his fault you lost.

Yes, he is a pure batter in cric sim.. which means he should be with 99 bowling average!

 

[Kshitiz_Indian]

What the???

Apparently you guys are involved in cricsim simulation for the first time. This always happens, you have to adjust your lineup. This is what practice matches are for. Why my team didn't have 99 average bowlers bowl was because I did a lot of practice matches and found out the best arrangement where all bowlers get their overs. You ARE actually running out of bowlers, well atleast by the sim's point of view.

And I don't see why this is unfair. I could call McCullum, an 80 average player, getting out for 46, than me making more runs and less average, unfair?

It happens guys, get over it.

 

[surendar]

What the???

what ??? :

Apparently you guys are involved in cricsim simulation for the first time. This always happens, you have to adjust your lineup. This is what practice matches are for. Why my team didn't have 99 average bowlers bowl was because I did a lot of practice matches and found out the best arrangement where all bowlers get their overs. You ARE actually running out of bowlers, well atleast by the sim's point of view.

No we are not used to the sim for the first time! it's not ALWAYS happens. It happens sometimes. There is a difference between Always and sometimes. With the same line up, we have also done many practice matches, i got only once odd where keeper came and bowled for us.

Hence I don't see anything in naming this scenario as " exception " scenario or weird scenario which all of us know it's a bug. I never denied that it's a bug. Even while addressing to Colin, I mentioned it clear its a bug and uncontrollable.

And I don't see why this is unfair. I could call McCullum, an 80 average player, getting out for 46, than me making more runs and less average, unfair?

The context which you point out is completely different. Batsmen with average 100 doesn't get always 100 and bowler with Average 1 doesn't get wickets every single run. Its completely fair. Unfair is if you expect that McCullum to get 10 wickets.

Anyways all these explanations are making it to look like it's a very big issue. Not at all.. I made my point simple and clear above.

It happens guys, get over it.

There is nothing in first place to get over it.. As i said, I made my points clear in above posts. Posting it same again and again will indeed make this to look like as if it's flaming issue of PCPL! :cool:

 

[shalin_hitter]

Ksitiz,yesterday you believe it or not but I have simmed the same lineup atlest 10 times,Aamir has also simmed 5 times indeed.You can ask him.I will give you all the saved match files right now itself if you want?

 

[shantanu_rooney]

Mate you simmed it 10 times then why didnt you simmed it the 11th time..It could ahve happened the 11th time..You never know abt the sim its really unpredictable and uncontrollable.

 

[surendar]

Mate you simmed it 10 times then why didnt you simmed it the 11th time..It could ahve happened the 11th time..You never know abt the sim its really unpredictable and uncontrollable.

Who said it's controllable? Who said it's predictable? You VV folks getting my point wrong again and again. Thats why I termed it as 'Exception' situation. It won't always occurs. It was one of your chaps who told that it always occurs not us.. so explain him! We do know something(if not fully like you VV folks) about cric simulator which has some black screen in back ground and some words in line by line will run in front of us when we start playing the match!

Anyways, since it's an exceptional case only, I put forwarded some fair points in one of the posts above. I don't know whether your owner read or not.. or just seeing the bold and font colors in thread, one of your folks freakingly started jumping as if some life has gone upside down! Better to measure the pulse and BP of him!

 

[Abhas]

I Can't Understand the debate..

We were playing 5 pure bowlers, and an all rounder - makes it 6 bowlers to choose from.
BB had only 5 bowlers.

And you want a comparison with the first 23 overs?

End of over 23 (8 runs)
BEIJING BLITZERS 122/6
(R/R: 5.30 R/R Req: 24.50)
Yuvraj Singh 5.0-0-28-2
Bladescape 1(2b)
Shane Watson 9(13b 1X4)

BB was 122/6, VV was 131/1.
You can't claim to win !!

 

[treva]

All I can say is: sore losers. It happens to every team at some stage, just get over it...

If you want to make a brand new simulator that doesn't do this, then by all means do so!

 

[Bibu07]

w00t total destruction, ohh and I didn't know that yusuf would be bowling. I would have done it better than him tbh. Anyway roll this one away, it doesn't decide the way the table would end up at last.

 

[ansariaamir_leo]

I Can't Understand the debate..

We were playing 5 pure bowlers, and an all rounder - makes it 6 bowlers to choose from.
BB had only 5 bowlers.

And you want a comparison with the first 23 overs?

End of over 23 (8 runs)
BEIJING BLITZERS 122/6
(R/R: 5.30 R/R Req: 24.50)
Yuvraj Singh 5.0-0-28-2
Bladescape 1(2b)
Shane Watson 9(13b 1X4)

BB was 122/6, VV was 131/1.
You can't claim to win !!

This comparison makes no sense Abhas. For an example. Say your team got 10 runs in the last 2 overs, and our team got 24 runs in an over like yours did, then it would have been BB victorious. We want a proper solution to it. And this by any means is not a solution. I consider you as more sensible so can you to a bit or hard work and go through what has been suggested?

@ Treva : Well mate, whom are you advising to get over it? If BB then why us? Ask VV to get over it and have a rematch

 

[Pranav]

Nah, you guys are making it into a big issue.

Its a bug in the simulator. Its been there for ages. Its not the first time it has occured. Earlier teams have also witnessed it leading them to lose the match. It would be unfair to those teams if a re-match was allowed here because they were not allowed such provision.

Hope you guys accept the fact that it occurs occaisonally and we have to accept it wether we are on the winning side or the losing side, as in this case.

 

[ansariaamir_leo]

Nah, you guys are making it into a big issue.

Its a bug in the simulator. Its been there for ages. Its not the first time it has occured. Earlier teams have also witnessed it leading them to lose the match. It would be unfair to those teams if a re-match was allowed here because they were not allowed such provision.

Hope you guys accept the fact that it occurs occaisonally and we have to accept it wether we are on the winning side or the losing side, as in this case.

My dear friend thats what Suren said about it. If it is a temporary or rarely occuring problem then why not resim it? It hardly takes 5 mins to do that and if anyone dont has 5 mins then I can do that. The point what Suren said is what you missed. Like even you said that the results may differ but then I say why should we keep this going on? You say its unfair becuase teams have suffered earlier but you don't see the fact that if it is adopted it'll prevent teams from suffereing in the future.
Batsmen nowadays score more runs individually becuase of the feilding restrictions and free hit rule. Don't you think its unfair with the batsmen of the past because they didn't had this facility? My point is to say that if we can eliminate these factors then why not take the initiative?

And its your team who is making it a bigger issue not ours. Every other member comes up with something of his own, instead of finding a solution for it. Aren't you people being stubborn? I know even we are sticking to what we said but our suggestion will help teams from suffering in the future and yours is just to let this happen again and again.