2021 ICC Men's T20 World Cup - India (UAE/Oman)

[CerealKiller]

What a disaster of a world Cup. Really tired of watching same stuff over and over. Win toss, field first, win easy

What are you talking about, it’s a perfect World Cup

 

[Skankhunt_42]

What are you talking about, it’s a perfect World Cup

And that's precisely my point.

 

[Ed Smith]

This is erm, really dull

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Spoiler: Cricket South Africa to Quinton de Kock

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

I completely to agree to all saying this WC has been a snooze fest. Its become an easy thing to do win toss elect to field. The dew is killing the defending team. Lets directly move to Australia shall we?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I completely to agree to all saying this WC has been a snooze fest. Its become an easy thing to do win toss elect to field. The dew is killing the defending team. Lets directly move to Australia shall we?

Worn out pitches due to IPL. I agree, Aussie 2022 down under will be fun.

 

[CerealKiller]

Nah, this is the best World Cup ever, as far as i'm concerned*

*as long as Pakistan keep winning

 

[icyman]

Its probably been the best ever- in my mind, tied with the CWC2007 in the Caribbean

 

[icyman]

Aussies dealt huge World Cup scare as Starc is injured in training

Aussies dealt huge World Cup injury scare as worrying Starc footage emerges

www.foxsports.com.au

Not a big concern tbh. They have been playing without him and have others who can jump in to do his bidding.

'I am not a racist' - Quinton de Kock apologises, will take the knee

"If me taking a knee helps to educate others, and makes the lives of others better, I am more than happy to do so," he says.

www.espncricinfo.com

Personally, this is ridiculous and cowardice from Quinton de Cock. If you do not believe in it, so be it. A better future might have awaited him elsewhere( read ECB-who would have already begun hiring their lawyers in order to poach him)

My views on BLM: Its preposterous!

Bending the knee, is not going to take away racism from the world. Are we that dumb that we have begun resorting to antics seen on social media and have started employing them in real life? 'Like this Image and you will end up feeding a kid'
Furthermore, why should Black Lives only matter? Why not All Lives? The ideology of weeding our racism by highlighting the word BLACK, in itself is racist. De Cock's praise of Temba too-am pretty sure its driven by the vile South African board. Praising a Black captain for absolutely no rhyme or reason!

 

[Neptune]

Bending the knee, is not going to take away racism from the world

It will obviously not solve racism as a whole, but considering the number of people who watch a World Cup especially from countries whose people aren't very familiar with the movement, seeing their cricketers supporting the movement is going to raise a lot of awareness about it.

Furthermore, why should Black Lives only matter? Why not All Lives?

I don't think I've ever seen anybody say that only Black Lives Matter. The movement doesnt say that either, it's just an anti racism campaign that highlights the hardship of people because of the color of their skin.

The ideology of weeding our racism by highlighting the word BLACK, in itself is racist.

The word Black is highlighted because it started as a way to highlight racism against Black people specifically. If you think that is racist, then any anti discrimination movement cannot exist in your eyes because we can't focus on the problems of any group of people in the world.

De Cock's praise of Temba too-am pretty sure its driven by the vile South African board. Praising a Black captain for absolutely no rhyme or reason!

Going to give you the benefit of the doubt for your second statement but De Kock's statement felt pretty heartfelt by me. Doesn't look like one of those apology statements a PR team of a celebrity makes, looks like De Kock wrote it himself.

 

[ahmedleo414]

Furthermore, why should Black Lives only matter? Why not All Lives? The ideology of weeding our racism by highlighting the word BLACK, in itself is racist.

I am sorry that you feel this way and to be honest this how I felt too when I first heard about it.

All I can say to you is I hope you can learn more about the movement and why it is important to show support for it even if it is just symbolically. Especially when athletes do it, don't think just because they are doing this that, it is just for show. Just think about the people watching them and even if that symbolic gesture means something to them, they are seeing their hero's are behind their cause. It might not mean that much to you, but it means something to someone.

Why not All Lives?

As i mentioned before, I hope you can learn more about why people say Black Lives Matter, @wasteyouryouth had a wonderful post regarding this in this very thread I hope you can read it.

And please continue to learn more about this because it might not be an important issue where you live and where you go to work/school, but it is very real to me and my close personal friends.

(this will be my last post on BLM on this thread, as I do not wish for this thread to become a place to discuss that.)

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Now I understand why we should choose our words wisely for sensitive topics before saying it out in open

 

[icyman]

I dont mind discussing the entire BLM in a separate thread. The only thing I feel is- there are far more problems the world especially these cricketing nations are facing at the moment. Those, have conveniently been brushed under the surface.

A simple solitary stance for the people of Afghanistan would have been far more impactful than going after BLM. Already, there's a large section of Indians who feel the team shouldn't take a knee, especially when they do not take a stance for concerns happening in their own country.

The word Black is highlighted because it started as a way to highlight racism against Black people specifically. If you think that is racist, then any anti discrimination movement cannot exist in your eyes because we can't focus on the problems of any group of people in the world

Racism takes place against Indians, Pakistanis as well. Step outside the country and people everywhere eye you differently. Taking the knee wont help. If the ICC wants to fall a publicity gimmick, so be it. I'd be better off watching cricket without these interferences.

 

[CerealKiller]

Bending the knee, is not going to take away racism from the world.

By that logic we should never speak about any issue. After all, talking about problems does not solve them, right?
It is a gesture to raise awareness and signal that racism is unacceptable is this day and age, which is the first step in combating it.

antics seen on social media

It’s not a social media trend, it’s a social movement, we've seen many of these through history. There is a history of Black people taking the knee, as well as raising a fist, as a protest against racism, that’s why it’s been adopted as a symbol.

Furthermore, why should Black Lives only matter?

When did anyone say that Black lives only matter? It means Black lives matter too.
BLM started in the United States as a protest against the horrific police brutality against Black people there, and widespread racial inequalities. I am sure you don’t deny that ethnic minorities had been subjugated for ages well into the 20th century. The structural and cultural impacts of that subjugation don’t go away immediately after the end of legal discrimination. It takes a lot of time. Over the last year and a half, after the murder of George Floyd, BLM became a global antiracism movement, while keeping the same name. It is a protest against racism of all kinds, whether against Black people, South Asians, or anyone. It is obvious that white people face a lot less discrimination than other ethnic groups.
The people who are opposed to this see this as a political movement. Fair, if you’re rightwing, you might have a problem with some of the political positions of the founders of BLM. But taking the knee against all kinds of racism is not political. Being against racism of all kinds is not political.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

I'm glad I took some drugs (prescription) last night.