Air france jet missing!

[King Cricket]

So sad! The plane carried nearly 230 passengers. And reports are saying that it was struck by lightning before carshing into the Atlantic. Geez! Lightning..so weird!

 

[sohum]

You definitely would't expect it with a European flight carrier with all the rules and regs they are bound to.

It's not just the rules and regulations but the age of the fleet. Newer technology is always going to be better in combatting certain air conditions, I would think. If you compare Lufthansa's fleet to Air France's fleet, for example you will notice that 63 of AF's 254 active planes are Airbust A319's or lower whilst Lufthansa has only 23 such planes in their fleet of 271.

 

[King Cricket]

Air France leads the number of accidents recorded with 10, alongside Indian Airlines

Didn't know this fact about Indian airlines! God! But again, look at the other India-based airlines. :cool:

 

[sohum]

So sad! The plane carried nearly 230 passengers. And reports are saying that it was struck by lightning before carshing into the Atlantic. Geez! Lightning..so weird!

Yup. I think they've confirmed that it crashed compared to earlier when they just weren't sure where it had gone.

Condolences to the families of the victims.

 

[King Cricket]

Air France leads the number of accidents recorded with 10

It should actually be 11. If I take the latest.

 

[sohum]

Didn't know this fact about Indian airlines! God! But again, look at the other India-based airlines. :cool:

Indian Airlines has a similarly outdated fleet. And they're running out of money so they can't really order new aircraft. Indian Airlines has merged with Air India, though, so they're getting better. They still don't have the money to buy the latest aircrafts.

sohum added 3 Minutes and 23 Seconds later...

A note on the plane that crashed, it was an A330 that was purchased just 4 years ago and that aircraft supposedly has an "impeccable" safety record. Source. So this was much more a freak incident than a resultant of a poor aircraft. However, AF still doesn't have one of the best fleets, although they made one of the earlier orders for the A380.

 

[Chetan0304]

It's confirmed by the officials that the plane is crashed! so sad my condolence to the families of the victims .

Any reason classified for the crash?

 

[Simbazz]

It's not just the rules and regulations but the age of the fleet. Newer technology is always going to be better in combatting certain air conditions, I would think. If you compare Lufthansa's fleet to Air France's fleet, for example you will notice that 63 of AF's 254 active planes are Airbust A319's or lower whilst Lufthansa has only 23 such planes in their fleet of 271.

Yes, I agree that the age of the fleet would have a considerable take on how well the company does in the disasters table, BUT;

Even a 1940's plane, which was chartered to carry passengers would have to perform to a standard, that would be almost certainly be the same as a 2009 aircraft.

British Airways have some fairly old planes compared to the likes of Easyjet, but the thing is, who would you feel safer flying with? BA is my guess. Its not really anything to do with aircraft age, as they all have to reach a standard, and if any problem is foreseen at any airport, then they have a right to pull the flight out.

(I do understand that Easyjet are bound to a somewhat different set of rules than BA, but that is because Easyjet don't have ABTA certificates, but this is more aimed at booking etc. but still, it means something.)

 

[Cricketman]

Jeez, you expect this in places like Asia and Africa, but not Air France Looks like it was a lightning strike from what they are saying

Air France is an absolutely horrible airline.

 

[King Cricket]

It's confirmed by the officials that the plane is crashed

Yup. It is.

 

[nightprowler10]

RIP to the victims.

 

[Leggie]

RIP to the victims. The final moments of the victims must have been awful.

 

[aussie1st]

RIP to the victims. IIRC there was an episode on Mayday that showed a similar crash where they lost the plane and hours later discovered it had crashed. Sad to see this happening again.

 

[m_vaughan]

What with the fine print, Simbazz?

 

[sohum]

Yes, I agree that the age of the fleet would have a considerable take on how well the company does in the disasters table, BUT;

Even a 1940's plane, which was chartered to carry passengers would have to perform to a standard, that would be almost certainly be the same as a 2009 aircraft.

Standards are there to prove guarantee up to a certain level. However, not all faults can be detected by applying standards. There are certain issues that occur by simple wear-and-tear of machines. Of course they have standards to protect against failures there, as well, and I'm sure they have a limit as to how old an active aircraft can actually be. If you have a new plane and old plane and both match up to the standard, I still think the older plane has a higher chance of mechanical failure, especially from a freak incident of some sort.

Anyhow, I posted earlier that this crash actually has nothing to do with the age of the aircraft, since this was a relatively new A330 (2005 delivery). So it should have been in top condition and had the least likely possibility of failure. Hence anything I said about the age of the fleet affecting this is not really valid or applicable anymore.

That doesn't change my opinion that Air France is an extremely poor carrier.